December 14, 2012

የ“ፕትርክናው ነገር” - የ"ኢሳት" ዘገባ


31 comments:

Anonymous said...

yehe afrash zena new...ESAT lemin endhi endemibetebten aygebagnim ...yebas bilo bezih "deje selam" meta ...ahun man mehonachihu Tshay mokew...egnaim awkenal new yalechiew yachi ayit...kkkkkk

Anonymous said...

Deje selam Min Mehonachihu new ? Degimo Esat Honachihu Poletikaw Yikirbachihu Neger Yibelashal Ahun Yefetena Zemen New Esat Degimo Tekawami Enj Ewnetega Aydelem Neger
Yazabal

Anonymous said...

Please change the link. The right link is the following: http://ethsat.com/video/?tubepress_video=zXtOucssvgs&tubepress_page=1

Amet maryam said...

ያልገባኝ ነገር ተምራት ላይኔ መናፈቅ እኮ ነው መናፍቅ ከሆነ በኃላ ለምን መናገር ፈለገ እስርቤት እያለ ለምን አለተናገረው አሁን የ ኦርቶዶክስን ውድቀተ ፈለገ መጥፎ መናፍቅ ድሮም ውሻ ወደ ትፋቱ ነው ከዝንብ ማር አየጠበቅም አርፎ ይ ቀመጥ ለ ኦርቶዳክስ አባቶች ታምራት ሐሳብም አስታየትም ቃለ መጠይቅም መስጠት አይችለም ደጀ ሰላም ምን ነካቸሁ

Anonymous said...

you are politicians not religious

Hailu said...

May God bless you all.

I like the balanced news revealing the truth.This is the truth that most of us have ignored or never knew.

His Holiness Abune Merkorios was unjustly removed by the government only to put their ethnic man on the throne.

Many of us have been accusing the 4th patriarch saying that he left his leadership willingly because of health reason. Many church fathers including bishops in Ethiopia have propagated this falsehood that Patriarch Merkorios relinquished spiritual leadership because of illness.

My faith and trust is hugely shaken when I think as to why the bishops chose tell lies. I think the wiki leaks document and the letter written by His Holiness Abune Merkorios to the synod clearly depicts how the coup d’état occurred in our church 20 years ago leading to the division which is not only shameful but also gravely weakened our church.

Even worse will be if we don't learn from the first mistake and fail to end this division. Talking about a sham election to appoint another sham 6th Patriarch will be an utter carelessness and complete disregard for the interest of Ethiopian Orthodox Church's future.

To the bishops, preachers, priests, etc in Ethiopia,

"What will you and the church benefit if you go ahead and elect a 6th Patriarch BUT LEAVE THE ORTHODOX CHURCH DIVIDED AND WEAKENED??? What???

Mathew 16:26
"What will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?"


Dear fathers, brothers and sisters, Nothing is to be profited in division. Let's unite. The right thing to do is to reinstate Patriarch Merkorios and end the division once and for all.

Anonymous said...

Mnu new adis neger mengst endaswetachew mech atanew east ewnetegna kehone lemn bemewtatachew abatoch tsmamtew yferemubetn document lemn ayawetam lene lalefut 20 ametat semtenewal lemn abune merkoryos betekrstiyan ena memenun leman tlewt sheshu kesachew befit ynebrut tlew sisheshu betekrstiyan sikeflu alaynm

Anonymous said...

Deje selam? is that the word do you think Esat is the media ?

Anonymous said...

this is truth. truth will never die. accept the truth, though it is sour

Anonymous said...

Ahun demo yedejesema mewidekiya derese! endaw zena bilachehu yetegegnewin takeribalachehu? Yematerebu

Anonymous said...

Thank u Dejeselamiye!

Anonymous said...

ESAT KAQEREBEW REPORT WUST YETU NEW WUSHETU?ENDIAUM YERQE SELAMU GUBAE ESKIALQ TINSH MAZEGYETACHEW YASMESEGINACHEWAL.EWNETEN LEMIN ENFERATALEN.

Anonymous said...

Why blame the messenger? Just focus on the message. It is puzzling some among us still blame the victim after 20 years despite the evidence.

If ESAT presents the signatures of the bishops who passed unholy decision to dismiss their brother, it would not prove anything. The bishops were wrong then and they will be wrong again if they were to hold another sham election to appoint yet another illegal Patriarch.

Kebede Bogale said...

Some of you think his holiness Abune Merqorewos should not have left his country instead of dying there by TPLF government defending his church and country . Where in the Holy Bible or church canon say that he should ? He did not left Ethiopia because the TPLF government declared that worshiping God as Christian is outlawed and anyone who does so must face death. This is not what happened then. They just told him to vacate the office for their own man to be seated instead. That is why he left the country but not the church and his Patriarchate. Some think he left the church and his Patriarchate in Ethiopia as if his spiritual power and the church he is leading is fixed at one particular place.He left Ethiopia because of this," when they persecute you in this city , flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the son of man be come." Mate. 10 :23.Therefore , please let us understand why and by whom his holiness forced to flee his country by vacating the office for them but not his Patriarchate . He is the Holy Patriarch of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church as long as he alive in this world, regardless where he is located physically.As christian , we must seek the truth by not convincing ourselves by earthly power's propaganda. Let us acknowledge how the power of God is doing now in front of our eyes. You know what I mean.....

Anonymous said...

አቡነ መርቆርዮስ በመንግስት ግፊ እንደለቀቁ እንደአዲሰ ነገር መነገሩ ይገርማል - ይሄ እኮ ሲነገረ የቆየ እና ሲያከራክር የነበረ ነገርም አይደለም፤ ከዚያ በኋላ ያለውን እውነታ ለመሰወር ካልሆነ በስተቀር። ያከራክር የነበረው፣ የመንግስትን ግፊ ተጠቅመው ሃላፊነታቸውን እንዲለቁ ያደረጉት አሁን 'በስደት' አብረዋቸው ያሉ አባቶች ናቸው። እነዚሁ አባቶች አቡነ መርቆርዮስ መልቀቃቸው ከተሰማ በኋላ በምርጫው ሂደት ላይ ያለምንም ተቃውሞ ሲሳተፉ የነበሩ ናቸው። ቤተ ክርስቲያኗን የጎዳት ግን ይህ የአቡነ መርቆርዮስ መገፋት ብቻ አልነበረም፣ እሳቸው ከዚያ በኋላ የወሰዱት አማራጭ ነው ቤተ ክርስቲያኗን ለሁለት የከፈላት። የያዙት ሃላፊነት ከመንፈስ ቅዱስ የተቀበሉት እንጂ ከሰው ያልተቀበሉት እንዳልሆነ በይፋ በመናገር መክፈል የሚገባቸውን መስዋዕትነት መቀበል የሚበልጠው አማራጭ ነበር። ይህን ማድረግ ከባድ ከሆነ ሁሉን ትቶ እግዚአብሔርን በጸሎት መለመን ነበር። በሀገር ውስጥ ይህም ከባድ ከሆነ እና ለሕይወታቸው ከሰጉ በስደትም ቢሆን በጸሎት ተወስኖ ሕዝቡን በመምከር መቆየት ይችሉ ነበር። ይህ ሁሉ ቤተ ክርስቲያንን የሚከፍል አልነበረም። ነገር ግን የመረጡት መንገድ ከመንግስት ጋር ተባብረው ካወረዱአቸው ሰዎች ጋር በመተባበር 'የስደት ሲኖዶስ' መመስረት ሆነ። ቤተ ክርስቲያኗን ለሁለት የከፈላት ይህ የመጨረሻው አማራጭ እንጂ የመንግስት ጣልቃ ገብነት አይደለም። የመንግስት ጣልቃ ገብነት በራሱ ቤተ ክርስቲያኗን ለተለያዩ አደጋዎች አጋልጦአታል። ቤተ ክርስቲያኗ ለተጋለጠችበት አደጋ ሰለባ እንድትሆን ያደረጓት ግን ከፓትርያርኩ ጀምሮ የራሷ ልጆች፣ የምዕመናንን ሕብረት ለመጠበቅ ሃላፊነት የተጣለባቸው አባቶች ናቸው። አቡነ መርቆርዮስ ተገፍተው ወረዱ የሚለው አያከራክርም፤ ተገፍተው ምን አደረጉ፣ ቤተ ክርስቲያንን የሚጠቅም አማራጭ ወሰዱ ወይስ የሚጎዳትን? እግዚአብሔር ስለ ስሙ የተገፉ ሰዎች የሚደሰትበትን ምርጫ ወሰዱ ወይስ የመያዝንበትን? ታሪክ እና ትውልድ ይፈርዳል።

Anonymous said...

አሁንም በድጋሚ ለማመልከት የምፈልገው አንድ ቁም ነገር አለ።
"ኢሳት" በአብዛኛው የተቃዋሚ ወገንተኛነቱ ስለሚበዛ ብዙው ነገር የተጋነነና ትክክለኛነቱም አጠራጣሪ ነው። ኣሁንም በአርግጠኝነት ለመናገር የምንቸለው ነገር አለ። አባ መርቆሬዎስ ክመንበረ ሥልጣናቸው እንዲውርዱ ሲደርግ ከመንግሥት ቀጥሎ አባ መልክጼዴቅ ትልቁን ሚና መጫወታቸው የአደባባይ ምስጢር ነው። ጥንቱንም ቢሆን አባ መልከጼዴቅ ቤተክርስቲያን ሲያውኩ የኖሩና በጎጥ የሚያምኑ ከፖለቲካዊ አስተሳሰብ ምንም ጊዜም የማይጸዳ ህይወት ያላቸው ናችው። ይህንንም የምለው ለብዙ ጊዜ ስለማውቃቸው ነው። ይህንንም የቤተክርስቲያን ክፍፍል መሐንዲሱ እሳቸው ለመሆናቸው ለ"ኢሳት" ቴሌቪዥን አገልግሎት ትክክለኛውን ሁኔታ ሊያረጋግጡ የሚችሉ ካህናቶችም ሆኑ ግለሰቦች ይኖራሉና ከሁሉም በፊት እውነቱን መንጋገር እንለማመድ ከዚያም ሰላም ይመጣል። በአለፈው ሳምንት በዳላስ እርቅ ተብሎ በውግዘት ያሉ ጳጳሳት አብረው በአገልግሎት ነበሩ ለመሆኑ ከቢተክርስቲያን ቀኖና አንጻር ሲታይ ምን ትርጉም እንዳለው ይህንንም በትክክል ለምእመናን ግልጽ መሆን አለበት። ነገር ግን የታየው ሁኔታ እግዚአብሔር በሚመሰገንበት ዓውደ ምሕረት የሰዎች መመሠጋገኛ ብቻ ሆኖ በመቅረቱ ምእመናን አሳዝኖአል። ምናአልባት ለጊዜው የግርግሩ ተጠቃሚዎች ከሚሆኑት መካከል ዋነኛው አባ መልክጼዴቅ ይሆናሉ ማለት ነው። እርቁ መጀመሪያውኑ በቅድመ ሁኔታ የታጠረ መሆኑ እየታወቀ ለሰላም መንገድ ይኖርዋል ብሎ ማሰብ ራስን ከማታለል አያልፍም። ምክንያቱም ሕጋዊ ሲኖዶስ እኛ ነን በማለት ወደ ፖለቲካው በመጠጋት ስለ ሁኔታው ምንም ግንዛቤ የሌለውን የምአመን ክፍል በአዲስ መልኩ ለማሳሳት ስለሚጠቀሙበት ነው። በአርግጥ አባ ጳውሎስ ነፍሳችውን ይማረውና አሜሪካ በሚኖሩበት ጊዜ ገለልተኛ ቤተክርስቲያን በማለት የፈጠሩት ችግር ሳያንስ በፓትርያርክነት ዘመን ያሰፈኑት ከመንፈሳዊነት ፍጹም የራቀ አመራር ቤተክርስቲያንን ከመጠን በላይ ጎድቶአታል። ከዚህ የበለጠ ግን አባ መልክጼዴቅ በቤተክርስቲያን ላይ ያደረሱት በደል በታሪክ ተወዳዳሪ የለውም። ኢህድግ አንዱ የሚከሰስበት ኤርትራን ማስገንጠል ሲሆን አባ መልከጼዴቅም ደግሞ አንዲት የሆነችውን ቤተክርስቲያን መክፈል ነው። ሁለቱም በታሪክ ሚዛን ሲታዩ ጉዳታችው ተወዳዳሪ አይገኝለትም። የሁለቱም ወገን የጎጥ (የጎሣ) ሚዛን የሚታይበት ነውና ስለዚህ የዜና አውታሮችም ድህረ ገጾች እውነትን በሚዛናዊ መልኩ ለማሰተናገድ ሞክሩ ሌላው ቢቀር አንድ ቀን የታሪክ ተጠያቂነቱ አይቀርም ከሁሉ በላይ ግን በደሙ የዋጃትን ቤተ ከርስቲያን እግዚአብሔር አይተዋትም።
ልዑል አምላክ ቤተክርስቲያንን ይጠብቅ።

ደጀሰላም ቀድም ብላ እንደምታደርገው የቤተክርስትያን ምሁራንን ብታሳትፍ ጠቀሜታ ስለሚኖረው በዚያ ላይ ማተኮሩ የበለጠ ትምህርታዊ ይሆናል የሚል ግምት አልኝ።

Anonymous said...

እባካችሁ ምርጫውን እንዳዘጋጃችሁ ሁሉ አባቶች ሳይበታተኑ ከጥሩ ጉባኤ በፊት ለምን ሕዝቡ በአንድ ትልቅ አዳራሽ ተሰብስቦ በስደት ባሉት አባቶች ሥር በሚገለገሉ ምዕመናን በሀገር ቤት እና በሌሎችም ባሉ ሥር ያሉ ሁሉም ምዕመናን ተሰብስበን ለምን ያለንን አቋም አጠንክረን አንገለልጽም።ቢቻል እነርሱ ባሉበት አሊያም ካህናቱና ምዕመናን።

Anonymous said...

God be with us. everything happens by God.
the big problem is that is the same poeple who are in the political world and in the church. It dosent wonder me becuase church and country leader have close relationship. its obvies and country leder serv people and pop serv God and people. please see the world in diffrent angels.

Tekle said...

I totally agree with what Kebede Bogale said above.

Some of the anonymous writers seem to advocate an anonymous agenda.

What we are saying is the truth is that the church was divided when the age old cannon law was disregarded and Patriarch Abune Merkorios was unjustly removed from his position in Addis. He left the country, not his Patriarchate, as the government and the bishops conspired against him. Some innocent or calculating people say he shouldn't have left the country but rather die. Die for what? Is it supported by scripture to die just for his position? If we learn from the scripture and from the fathers and Christians in the Coptic Church, we would not say this.

The Christians in Egypt never accepted a "patriarch" which was once appointed by the sultans. Instead, they stood faithful to their legitimate Patriarch while he was exiled until his return to his rightful place.

On the other hand, what we the Ethiopian Christians did? Contrary to what the Egyptian Christians did, some among us say he should have died in Ethiopia. Sorry, why should he die?

Are we suggesting if Patriarch Merkorios died then we the Christians would have risen for our church better? Why do we need His Holiness die for us to stand in defense of our church's cannon? If we need reason to stand for our faith, we have had plenty but we ignored them and sat back.

What was done when His Holiness Abune Tewoflos was murdered by the Derg?

What did we do when a monk was murdered in front of Aba Paulos at St. Estifanos church in Addis?
What did we do when the graves of fellow Orthodox Christians were dug out at St Yoseph Church in Addis?
What did we do when the ancient monastery, Waldiba, is being destroyed for sugar plantation and the monks are taken away to unknown prisons? Etc......


If we are honest and serious Christians, we don't need Patriarch Merkorios to die for us to stand for our church. I personally am tired of lame excuses.

May God keep and bless our Ethiopian Orthodox Church.

Anonymous said...

የኢ.ኦ.ተ.ቤ.ክ. እዚህ አዘቅት ውስጥ የከተታት በወያኔ ትዕዛዝ ሰጭነት ማለትም በታምራት ላይኔ አስፈጻሚነት ፓትርያርክ አቡነ መርቆሪዎስን ከመንበራቸው በማንሳት ጎሰኛውንና ካድሬውን ታጋይ ገብረ መድህንን በማስቀመጥ ቤተክርስቲያንን ካረከሱና ህዝቡንም ካዋረዱ በኋላ ነው። አቡነ መርቆሪዎስ ከመንበራቸው ተገደው እንደወጡ ይታወቃል፣ ታዲያ ለምን በህይወት ቆዩ እንደ አቡነ ቲዎፍሎስ አልተረሸኑም ማለት ከሆነ ይህ የዲያቢሎስ አስተሳሳብ ስለሆነ በክርስቲያኖች ዘንድ ቦታ የለውም። ያም ቢሆን እኝህ ከላይ ሃሳብ የሰጡት አቡነ መልከጸዲቅን እንደ ወገባቸው ቅማል ጠምደው እንደሚያዩት ሰው ከወያኔዎቹ ዘንድ ያሉ እንደሆነ ስለማያጠራጥር የቁጭትና የንዴት ንግግር ስለሆነ ማንም የሚቀበለው የለም። ሁለት ሲኖዶስ ተቋቁሞ ላሉት ይህ አምባገነኖች ባሉበት አገር የተለመደ ነው። ለምሳሌ በኮሚኒስቶች ዘመን የስደት ሲኖዲሶች ውጭ አገር በሚኖሩ ሩሲያኖች፣ ቡልጋሪያዎችና ሌሎችም አቋቁመው የነበረ ሲሆን ኮሚኒስቶች ተገርስሰው ሲወድቁ የተሰደደው ምዕመን ወደ አገሩ ሲመለስ ሁሉም ተስተካክሎ በአንድ ሲኖዶስ ጸንቷል። ነፍሰ በላውና ጸረ ኢትዮጵያዊው ህውሃት ከኢትዮጵያ ሲነቀልና አገሪቷ ነጻ ስትወጣ ሁሉም ይስተካከላል። በስደት ያለው ህጋዊው ሲኖዶስ የሁላችን የስደተኞች ጥላ ከለላ ነው። እርቅ ከተባለ ደግሞ ፓትርያርክ እያለ ፓትርያርክ ስለማይሾም፤ ፓትርያርክ መርቆሪዎስ ወደ መንበራቸው ይመለሱ!!!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous @ December 16, 2012 5:59 AM

I am not sure where you have been but the piece by ESAT has so much news that lot of faithful does not know about. Only those privy to the situation or those put an effort to know the detail. His Holiness Abuna Merkorios was perceived or was painted to be perceived as leaving his post for health reasons and/or forced to resign by the request of the "people" who "demonstrated" for his removal. So, unless you are hiding on purpose not to accept the truth as it has transpired, this news piece clearly shows the unjust done to not just Abuna Merkorios as an individual, but the church at large. No one or not many new he has appealed to the synod and the government that forced him out that he is healthy and well to lead the church. That is point one.

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Anonymous said...

Your second point is pretty amazing, in a sad way. Once he was unjustly removed, you went on to beat the defenseless. I have said this many times before, but you pretty much suggesting him to scarify his life. My question to you is why? What would you (as a faithful) and the church at large benefit if he had died? We have a historical parallel in Abuna Tewoflos where he was killed by the government. In those most historical blunder times, the faithful didn’t rise up and take charge of injustice done to the church. Neither did the fathers but I will come back to that later. The church [fathers in the synod], the government and faithful at large went on to business as usual. We [The church [fathers in the synod], the government and faithful at large] since then exiled a patriarch, humiliated another one and foster ungodly culture of corruption, sin, ethnocentric view in the church. Not to mention the drama in the church of our northern brothers. We became a laughing stock in the orthodox world. Nothing has changed in the church because Abuna Tewoflos dies standing up for the truth and gave his life.

So, yea, had Abuna Merkorios stayed [died of natural cause or not] the dirt in this church would not have come to light. The churches division is of course a major problem. But there is so much dirt that one can't fathom exists in church of God. Let's be honest here. We have a synod with members who went on to their daily business after signing off (mater of historical fact) the life of one of their own [Abuna TEwoflos]. We have a synod with members [most in this case] facilitating the removal of the now ABuna merkorios so one of them can take his place. We now have a synod with member who is in legal limbo about custody battle of the late Abuna Mikael's son. We now have a synod with the audacity to debate about whether the Papas property belongs to the church or his as if it's absolutely Ok for them to have any to begin with. Instead of using this golden opportunity to undo historical blunders of the past, we now have a synod with members advocating certain ethnic member should take the throne. Add to that with faithful who is pretty much Ok with what has been going on, this church is now found the most endangered state if one sees the impact of these blunders for a generation to come if not handled with care.

I would like to give credit where it's due. While the encroachment of the government has contributed to all the disaster, I believe the EPRDF does now care less who is there. The interference is very little if non-existence. The interview of Aboy Sibhat has so much truth. The men in the church do not have integrity to stand up for a cause. So, the burden falls on both Synods to see beyond the past and the impact of their decision to the future of the church. The burden falls on us faithful to realize that we are part of this mess in one way or another. The UNITY of the church is a must and a start for rooting out weeds I have discussed above.

The burden falls especially on us faithful to push the two Synods that enough is enough. I personally do not have faith in our church leaders for there are many who see the unification as door closing on their quest for power, quest for their heretic teaching and quest for their ethnocentric agenda. If you love the church, advocate for the men in robs to live the life of Christ Jesus for once in their life time. Forgive each other, hold hand in hands, and get back to the business of this beloved Orthodox Tewahido church of mine.

Enough Enough Enough.

God help us

Anonymous said...

Kala heiwate

Anonymous said...

Dear Brothers and sisters, so called orthodox followers(I know there are truly Orthodox followers out there) any way, let me say this
1. When I red the comments I said to myself that logic dead in the sides of so called Orthodox followers.
2. Many try to think or think that religion and Ethiopia ( as they call it politics) are separate.
3. Many try to support government blindly but when they see bubbles of truth here and there specially in the last category of Ethiopian whom claim religious and don't care about Ethiopia( as they call it politics) like dejeselam.com etc they will be shaken so they throw all kinds of wrong comments.
My advice is this : whichever category you belong to, now is the time for God to rectify whatever unholy unchristian untruthful against dogma act happened in the last 21 years in our church. Now is the time for you to adapt yourselves with truth.
Truth triumphs. Thanks to God . May God bless you all.

Anonymous said...

በጣም የሚያሳዝንና የሚያስተዛዝብ አስተያየት ነው። እውነተኛውን መስመር ጠብቀው የተሰጣቸውን አደራ ለመወጣት በመጋደል ላይ የሚገኙትን ብጹዕ ፓትርያርክ አቡነ መርቆሪዎስን ማመስገንና ቡራኬያቸውን በመቀበል ፋንታ ለወንጀለኞቹና ለአጥፊዎቹንና ለምን አልተመቹም በማለት መርዘኛና እኩይ ነገር መናገር እራሱ ተናጋሪውን ያስደስት ይሆናል እንጅ አብዛኛዎቹን የሃይማኖታችንን ጉዳይ እግር በእግር የምንከታተ ሰዎች ሊያታልሉን አይችሉም። በዚህ ድረገጽ ላይ የተቀመጡትን እነዚህን መረጃዎች መመልከታችንን ደግሞ በትክክል ወያኔ እንዴት ቤተክርስቲያናችንን ከጥቂት ጥቅመኞች ጋር መጫወቻ እንዳደረጋት ያረጋግጣል።

Anonymous said...

በጣም የሚያሳዝንና የሚያስተዛዝብ አስተያየት ነው። እውነተኛውን መስመር ጠብቀው የተሰጣቸውን አደራ ለመወጣት በመጋደል ላይ የሚገኙትን ብጹዕ ፓትርያርክ አቡነ መርቆሪዎስን ማመስገንና ቡራኬያቸውን በመቀበል ፋንታ ለወንጀለኞቹና ለአጥፊዎቹንና ለምን አልተመቹም በማለት መርዘኛና እኩይ ነገር መናገር እራሱ ተናጋሪውን ያስደስት ይሆናል እንጅ አብዛኛዎቹን የሃይማኖታችንን ጉዳይ እግር በእግር የምንከታተ ሰዎች ሊያታልሉን አይችሉም። በዚህ ድረገጽ ላይ የተቀመጡትን እነዚህን መረጃዎች መመልከታችንን ደግሞ በትክክል ወያኔ እንዴት ቤተክርስቲያናችንን ከጥቂት ጥቅመኞች ጋር መጫወቻ እንዳደረጋት ያረጋግጣል።

zetewahido said...

To one anonymous writer who tries to refocus the issue on Abune Melketsedek,

Do you have personal, ethnic or other issue with Abune Melketsedek? You seem to accuse him of removing Patriarch Merkorios. How absurd is that. What ESAT presented is the fact. If you have evidence to the contrary present it for us to see.

Let’s say for argument sake that he was among the bishops who conspired to remove Patriarch Merkorios. Regardless of who removed the Patriarch against the cannon law, the act was dead wrong then and will be dead wrong if we repeat the same mistake by assigning an illegal “6th patriarch”

Despite your accusation, Abune Melketsedek is the one who discloses the illegality of the act 20 years ago. I recall the article he wrote titled “Holy synod or assembly of gangsters” disclosing the unholy decision the synod in Addis passed.

Even if I agree with Mr Anonymous that Abune Melketsedek was wrong then, I must say to you that he subsequently has stood strongly firm against the injustice that had happened.

That is the difference between fathers like Abune Melketsedek and the ones you support. The later chose to continue defending their mistakes and seem to be on the edge to double up the mistaken way of talking about another illegal 'patriarch'.

I must admit, the repentance of the then PM, Tamirat Layne, about his direct role in removing Patriarch Merkorios and hence dividing our church, is much better than some of the bishops in Addis who are poised to repeat the original mistake which will perpetuate the division in our church.

So Mr anonymous, please don't dwell much on your grudge about Abune Melketsedek. The issue is beyond him. It is about our church. It is about rectifying the mistake that caused so much division in our church. It is about uniting our beloved Church.

May GOD help us.

Anonymous said...

Menaw ewenet sineger TEKATELACHEHU esat ewenet seletenager deje selam demo leewenet seleqom aqerebu tadiya min yetebes EWENETEN SHEFAFENO MENOR BICHALEM ANDE QEN MEGALETU AYQEREM
DEJE SELAMOCH ENAMESEGENALEN EWENETEN SELEDEGEFACHU GENA BEZU TELAT AFUN YEKEFTAL NEGER GI. KEWENET GAR YALEW KEHULUM YEBELETAL BERETU.

Anonymous said...

Thank you zetewahedo well said

Tazebew Zemenun said...

Please Dear brothers and Sisters let us stop accusing each other, let us pray to God so as He started to resolve the problem to finish it according to His will. You Our Church Fathers please think about the Glory of God instead of your own perishable earthly shameful glory.

Anonymous said...

ብዙዎቹን አስታያየቶች እንደመተመለከትኩት አንዳዶቹ ከበጎ አመለካከት ሲሆን አንዳንዶቹም ከጊዜው የፖለቲካ አመለካከት ጋር የተቆራኙ ይመስላሉ። ከሁሉ በላይ በውጪው ዓለም የምኖነረው ኢትዮጵያውያን የመናገርም ሆነ የመጻፍ ነጻ እድል በዳበረበት ክፍለ ዓለም ሀሳባችንን በመሰለን መንገድ የማቅረብ መብት አለን። ከመስመር የወጣ ስድብ ኢትዮጵዊነትን የሚግልጽ ሳይሆን የፈሪነትን ወይም ስለ አንድ ነገር የማስረዳት የችሎታ ማነስን ነው። ስለዚህ ብዙ ጊዜ ንግግራችን ማንንነታችንን ስለሚያሳይ ጥንቃቄ ማድረግ ተገቢ ነው። ሰው እንደመሆናችን ሌላው ቢቀር ከህሊና ወቀሳ አናመልጥምና በተረጋጋ መልኩ መነጋገርም ሆነ መጻጻፍ እድገትን እንጅ ውድቀትን አይጋብዝም። በቤትክርስቲያን ዙሪያ የሚደረግ ውይይት ደግሞ ከምንም በላይ ስለሆነ የበለጠ ትኩረትን ይጠይቃል ስለዚህ ቤተከርስቲያን የሥርአት ቤት ስለሆነች በሥርአት ሀሳብን መግለጽ ተገቢ ይሆናል ማለት ነው። የቤተክርስቲያን ችግር የጀመረው ገና በመጀመሪያው የፓትርያርክ ዘመን ነው። ኢትዮጵያ የመጀመሪያውን የራስን ፓትርያርክ መምረጥ መልካም ሆኖ ሳለ ነገር ግን የወደፊቱን ችግር በመመልከት የተቃወሙ ሊቃውንት ነበሩ አንደኛው ሊቁ አለቃ አያሌው ታምሩ ነበሩ። እንደውም ኣፄ ኃይለሥላሴን ተው እስከማለት ደርሰው እንደነበረ ተጽፎ ይገኛል ምክንያቱም ይህ ችግር በቤተክርስቲያን ላይ እንደሚመጣ ይታያቸው ስለነበረ ነው። እንደተባለውም አልቀረም ከጊዜ ወደ ጊዜ ችግሩ እየባሰ እንጅ እየቀነሰ አልመጣም። መንፈሳውያን አባቶች በብዛት በነበሩበት ዘመን ፈተናም ቢኖርም በጸሎት ወዲያውኑ የሚቃለል ነበረ አሁን እንደሚታየው ግን የመንፈሳውያን አባቶች ቁጥር እያነሰ ስጋዊ አስተሳሰብ እያደገ በመሄዱ ችግራችን እየተባበሰ መምጣቱን ያሳያል። የግብጽ ቤተክርስቲያን እንዲሁ ችግር ነበረባት ነገር ግን የምእመናን ህብረት ችግሩን ፈቶአል ስለዚህ እኛም በጳጳሳቱ ስም መካፋፈሉን አቁመን ስለ ቤትክርስቲያን ብቻ መነጋገር ከጀመርን እግዚአብሔር በመካክላችን ስለሚገኝ ውጤት እናይበታለን። እንደአሁኑ የመሰዳድብን ባህል እያዳበርነው ከሄድን ግን ኢትዮጵያዊ ገጽታችን እየደበዘዘ ችግሩም ለትውልድ እየተላለፈ መሆኑን አንርሳ።
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