August 1, 2012

በአሜሪካ ኦርቶዶክሳውያን ወጣቶችን እና ማኅበራትን የሚቃወም ድብቅ የካህናት ስብሰባ እየተካሄደ ነው


(ደጀ ሰላም፤ ሐምሌ 25/2004 ዓ.ም፤ ኦገስት 1/ 2012/ READ THIS ARTICLE IN PDF)፦ በሰሜን አሜሪካ በኢትዮጵያ ኦርቶዶክስ ተዋሕዶ ቤተ ከርስቲያን በምዕራብ ስቴቶች የካሊፎርንያ ሀገረ ስብከት ሥር በሚተዳደሩ አቢያተ ክርስቲያናት ውስጥ የሚያገለግሉ ጥቂት ካህናት፤ ማኅበረ ቅዱሳንን፤ ማኅበረ በዓለ ወልድንና የሰንበት ትምህርት ቤቶች አንድነት ጉባኤንና በጠቅላላው ለቤተ ክርስቲያናቸው የሚቀኑ ኦርቶዶክሳውያን ወጣቶችን እና ካህናትን የሚቃወም ድብቅ ስብሰባ እየተካሔደ ነው። ድብቁ ስብሰባ ኦርቶዶክሳውያን የጡመራ መድረኮች የሆኑትን “ደጀ ሰላምን አሐቲ ተዋዶን፣ አንድ አድርገንን፣ ገብር-ሔር  ናቡቴን ከመናፍቃን ድረ-ገጽ ጋር በመደመር ይዘጋልን ማለታቸውን ጨምሮ በጠቅላላው ባለ ስምንት ነጥብ ደብዳቤ ጽፈው መፈራረም ለቅዱስ ፓትርያርኩ ለመላክ በዝግጅት ላይ መሆናቸውን ውስጠ አዋቂ ምንጮች በተለይ ለደጀ ሰላም ገልጸዋል



ሳይማሩ ምረናል ቁ አቀናል እያሉ ሕዝቡን እየከፋፈሉት ነው የሚሉት ድብቆቹ ካህናት “ማኅበራትም ሆ ሰባያነ ወንጌል ሀገረ ስብከቱ ሳያውቅና የፈቃድ ደብዳቤ ሳይዙ በየትኛውም  ቤተ ክርስቲያን እንዳይሰብኩ በቅዱስነዎ በኩል ጥብቅ መመሪያ ለየአብያተ ክርስቲያናቱ እንዲተላለፍልን ማንኛውም ሰው ወይም ማኅበር በቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱ ስም ምንም ይነት ፈቃድ እንዳይሰጥ በኢትዮጵያ መንግሥት የውጭ ጉዳይ ሚኒስቴር በኩል ለአሜሪካን መንግሥት መመሪያ እንዲተላለፍልን ሲሉ ቅዱስ ፓትርያርኩን በጥብቅ ማሳሰባችውን የተረቀቀው ደብዳቤ ይገልጣል። የዚህ የድብቅ ካህናቱ ስብሰባ ከተጀመረ አምስተኛ ሣምንቱን አስቆጥል።

ይህን የ“ስቅሎ-ስቅሎ” ድብቅ ስብሰባ በግንባር ቅደምትነት ያስተባበሩትና በማስተባበር ላይ የሚገኙት
1.   በላስ ቬጋስ የሐመረ ኪዳነ ምረት ወቅዱስ ሚካኤል ቤተ ክርስቲያን አስተዳዳሪ የሆኑትና  በአሁኑ ሰዓ በአቡነ ፋኑኤል የአሪዞና ኔቫዳ እና ዪታ ስቴቶች  ሊቀ ካህናት ተብለው የተሾሙት መልአከ ኪዳን ቀሲስ ሙኤል ደጀኔ
2.   መልአከ ሰላም አባ ወልደ ሰማዕት ገብረ ሥላሴ (በሲያትል ዋሽግተን የደብረ ሰላም ቅዱስ ሚካኤል አስተዳዳሪና በአቡነ ፋኑኤል የዋሽንግተን ስቴት ሊቀ ካህናት ብለው የተሾሙ
3.   መጋቤ ሐዲስ ቀሲስ ዘሚካኤል ታደሰ በሲያትል የደብረ ሰላም ቅዱስ ሚካኤል አገልጋይ በአቡነ ፋኑኤል የዋሽንግተን ስቴት ቤተ ክህነት የስብከተ ወንጌልና የሰንበት ትምህርት ቤቶች ኃላፊ ብለው የተሾሙ
4.   ሊቀ ማዕምራን ለይኩን ተስፋ በቴክሳስ ኦስተን የደብረ ኃይል ቅዱስ ኤል ቤተ ክርስቲያን አስተዳዳሪበአቡነ ፋኑኤል የቴክሳስ ስቴት ቤተ ክህነት የስብከተ ወንጌልና የሰንበት ትምህርት ቤቶች ኃላፊ ብለው የተሾሙ
5.   ሊቀ ማዕምራን ሞገስ እጅጉ በቴክሳስ ዳላስ የገነተ ጽጌ ቅዱስ ጊዮርጊስ ቤተ ክርስቲያን አስተዳዳሪ በአቡነ ፋኑኤል የቴክሳስ ስቴት ሊቀ ካህናት ብለው የተሾሙ
6.   ሊቀ ስዩማን ቀሲስ ታደሰ አርአያ በቴክሳስ ዳላስ የደብረ ሐይ አቡነ ተክለ ሃይማኖት ወአቡነ አረጋዊ ቤተ ክርስቲያን አስተዳዳሪ በአቡነ ፋኑኤል የቴክሳስ ስቴት ቤተክህነት ጸሐፊና ሒሳብ ሹም ብለው የተሾሙ
7.   አባ ገብረ ኪዳን ተጠምቀ የሳክራሜንቶ ሐመረ ኪዳነ ረት ቤተ ክርስቲያን አስተዳዳሪ በአቡነ ፋኑኤል በካሊፎርኒያ ስቴት  የኦክላንድ ሳንሆዜና ሳክራሜንቶ ከተሞች ሊቀ ካህናት ብለው የተሾሙ
8.   መልአከ ገነት አባ ገብረ እግዚአብሔር ወልዱ ሳን ሆዜ ደብረ ገነት ቅድስት ማርያም ቤተ ክርስቲያን አስተዳዳሪ በካሊፎርኒያ ስቴት በአቡነ ፋኑኤል የኦክላንድ ሳንሆዜና ሳክራሜንቶ ከተሞች ቤተ ክህነት የስብከተ ወንጌልና ሰንበት ትምህርት ቤቶች ኃላፊ ብለው የተሾሙ
9.   መልአከ ሰላም አባ ገብረ ማርያም  ታፈረ የሳንዲያጎ ደብረ ሰላም ቅዱስ ገብርኤል ቤተ ክርስቲያን አስተዳዳሪ በአቡነ ፋኑኤል በካሊፎርኒያ ስቴት  የሎሳንጀለስ፣ የሳንዲያጎና የፍሬዝኖ ከተሞች ቤተ ክህነት የስብከተ ወንጌልና የሰንበት ትምህርት ቤቶች ኃላፊ ብለው የተሾሙ
10.  መልአክ መዊዕ ቀሲስ ኃይለ ኢየሱስ ዱሬሳ የደብረ መዊዕ ቅዱስ እስጢፋኖስ ቤተ ክርስቲያን አገልጋይ በአቡነ ፋኑኤል የአሪዞና ኔቫዳ እና ዩታ ስቴቶች ቤተ ክህነት የስብከተ ወንጌልና ሰንበት ትምህርት ቤቶች ኃላፊ ብለው የተሾሙ
ሲሆኑ የሌሎችንም ካህናት ስም ዝርዝር በቀጣይ የምናጣ መሆኑን ቃል እንገባለን።

የመጀመሪያ ስብሰባቸውን ጁላይ 1/2012  ሲያደርጉ በስብሰባው እንዲገኙ ለጠሯቸው ካህናት የስብሰባውን ላማና ግቡን  ሲያብራሩ እንደ ማደናገሪያነት የተጠቀሙበት  ከቅዱስ ፓትርያርኩ የሚላ መመሪያዎችና ትዕዛዞችን እን ማስፈጸም እንችላለን የሚል ነበር። ብዙ ሳቦችንም ካብላሉ በኋላ ኮሚቴ መርጠው ተለያይተዋል።  የኮሚቴው  ሰብሳቢም መልአከ ሰላም አባ ወልደ ሰማዕት የሲያትል ደብረ ሰላም ቅዱስ ሚካኤል አስተዳዳሪ ምክትል ሰብሳቢ ሊቀ ማዕምራን ለይኩን ተስፋ ከኦስተን ቅዱስ ራጉኤል ቤተ ክርስቲያን፣ ሐፊ ደግሞ ሊቀ ሥዩማን ቀሲስ ታደሰ ከዳላስ አቡነ ተክለሃይማኖት ቤተ ክርስቲያን ሲሆኑ ስብሰባውም ለቀጣይ እሑድ ጁላይ 8/2012 ሰባት ሰዓት ላይ ቀጥረው አልፈዋል። ይህንንም ስብሰባ በማስተባበርና በማደራጀት ለየካህናቱ ስልክ በመደወል ዓቃቤ ሰዓት በመሆን ያለመሰልቸትና ለዚህ እኩይ ተግባር በመትጋት በዋናነት የሚጠቀሱት የላስ ጋሱ መልአከ ኪዳን ቀሲስ ሙኤል ደጀኔ ናቸው።

የሁለተኛው ስብሰባም ጁላይ 08/2012 ቀን በምዕራብ አሜሪካ ፓሲፊክ ሰዓት አቆጣጠር 700 .ኤም ላይ የጀመሩ ሲሆን በዚህ ቀን በማወቅም ይሁን ባለማወቅ (የሰብሳቢዎቹን እኩይ አላማ ባለመረዳት) ከላይ የተጠቀሱ አስተባባሪዎቹን ጨምሮ ወደ 16 የሚጠጉ ካህናት ተገኝተው ነበር። ስብሰባው በቴክሳስ ዳላስ አብያተ ክርስቲያን ሦስት ጊዜ የከፋፈሉ መሆናቸው በሚነገርላቸው በሊቀ ማዕምራን ሞገስ እጅጉ ቀልድና ነገረ ዘርቅ ተጀምሯል። ከዚያም ሊቀ ስዩማን ቀሲ ታደሰ አርአያ ከፓትርያርኩ የሚመጣን መመሪያ ማስፈጸም እንት እንችላለን? በአቡነ ፋኑኤል ላይ የተቀጣጠለውን ተቃውሞ እንዴት ማቀዝቀዝ እንችላለን፣ ስማቸውን በመጥራትና ባለመጥራት ጉዳይ ላይ እን አድርገን እናስተካክለው? አንዳንድ አብያተ ክርስቲያናት ፓትርያርኩን ስም እን የአቡነ ፋኑኤልን ስም በጸሎተ ቅዳሴ አናነሳም የሚሉ አሉ ምን እናድርግ? የሚል ሳብ ለጉባኤው አቅርበዋል


ይህ ንዲህ እንዳለ ሊቀ ካህናት ኃይለ ሥላሴ ዛሬ ለስብሰባው የመጀመሪያቸው እንደሆነና በመጀመሪያ የካህናት መሰባሰብ ተገቢና ቅታዊ እንደሆነ እስከ አሁንም መቆየታችው ጥሩ እንዳልነበረ ገልጸው መጀመሪያ ግን ወደ ረታዊ ሳቡ ከመግባታችን በፊት እኛ (ስብስቡ) ማን ነን?” የሚለው ጥያቄ ጠይቀዋል ቀጥለውም “ዋስትናችንስ ምንድን ነው?” ብለዋልይህንንም አባ ወልደ ሰማዕት ሲያብራሩ ዋስትናችን አንድነታችን ነው ብለው መልሰዋል። ከዚያም  “እኛ ማን ነን?” ሲሉ ለጠየቁት ራሳቸው ሊቀ ክህናት መልሱ መተዳደሪያ ደንብ ኑረን፣ አወቃራችን ከቃለ አዋዲው ውጭ ለሆነ የራሳችንን ህልውና ማረጋገጥ ስለላለብን ህጋዊ ሰውነት እንዲኖረን ያስፈልጋል ብለዋል። ማብራሪያ ሐሳቡን ሌሎቹ ተሰብሳቢዎቹ ተቀብለውታል።

ስያሜ ምን መሆን እንዳለበት ቅድሚያውን የወሰዱት ሊቀ ካህናት ኃ/ሥላሴ ሲያብራሩም በረ ካህናት ብንለውና ደንብ ቢኖረን ጥሩ ነው ብለዋል አንዳንዶቹ ተሰብሳቢዎች “ይህ ስብስብ ከሀገረ ስብከት የተለየ በር ስለሆነ ደንብ ቢኖረን የተቀረጹትን አጀንዳዎች ብንወያይበት ጥሩ ነው ብለው ጥያቄ  አቅርበዋል። ሰብሳቢውም የሊቀ ካህናት ጥያቄ  ጥሩ እንደሆነና እኛን ሀገረ ስብከቱ ቢቀበለን የሚል ሃሳብ አቅርበው አጭሩ መንገድም በሀገረ ስብከቱ ስር መቋቋም እንደሆነ ጠቁመው አልፈዋል። ከተሰብሳቢዎቹም መካከል በኩረ ትጉሃን አቡሃይ ለመሆኑ ይህንን ስብስብ ሊቀ ጳጳሱ ያውቃሉ ወይ?” ብለው ጠይቀው ሰብሳቢውም ሲመልሱ ለሊቀ ጳጳሱ ነግረናቸው ተቀብለውት በርቱ ብለውናል በማለት ገልጸዋል።

ሊቀ ካህናት ኃይለ ሥላሴ ባቀረቡት ሃሳብ ረት ጉባኤው የመተዳደሪያ ደንቡን የሚያረ ሰዎች እንዲመርጥ ተስማምተው የሚከተሉት ሰዎች ተመርጠዋል።
1.      መልአከ ኪዳን ቀሲስ ሳሙኤል ደጀኔ
2.     ሊቀ ካህናት ኃይለ ሥላሴ ዓለማየሁ
3.     ሊቀ መዘምራን ክነፈ ርግብ ሐጎስ
4.     በኩረ ትጉሃን አቡሃይ ፈንቴ እና
5.     መጋቤ ምሥጢር በቃሉ ከሃሊ

ይህንንም ስብሰባ ሲያጠናቅቁ ተሰብሳቢዎቹ በሙሉ በየአብያተ ክርስቲያናቱ ያለውን ችግር  ይዘው መጥተው ለአርቃቂ ኮሜቴው የመነሻ ሳብ እንዲሆነው በሚል ስማምተው ተለያይተዋል።

በሶስተኛው ቀን ማለትም በጁላይ 15/2012 ስብሰባቸው ላለፉት ሁለት ሳምንታት በተሰበሰቡበት ኮንፍረንስ ሩም አልነበረም የተሰበሰቡት የኮንፍረንሱ ሩም የመግቢያ ቁጥር ስለተቀየረ ወደ አዲሱ ሩም ገብተዋል። ስብሰባውም የተጀመረው ባለፈው ሳምንት የተሰጣቸውን የቤት ሥራ ሁሉም በየአብያተ ክርስቲያናቱ ያለው ችግር ምን እንደሆነ ይዘው እንዲመጡ ስለነበር  ሁሉም  በዋናነት እንደ ችግር አደገኛ ጉዳይ እና ቤተ ክርስቲያን ራሽ አድርገው ያቀረቡት በረ ቅዱሳንን በረ ወልድ የሰንበት ትምህርት ቤቶች አንድነት ጉባኤን ነበር።

በዚህም ከተወያዩ በኋላ ለአርቃቂ ኮሜቴው ሳባውን ገልጸውና በደንብ እንዲብራራ አድርገው ደንብ ለሚያረቁት የመነሻ ሳብ ያህል በቂ እንደሆነ ተደርጎ ተወስል። ለቀጣይም ለቅዱስ ፓትርያርኩ በአድራሻ ስልሚጻፈው ደብዳቤ ብዙ ውይይቶች ተደርገው ደብዳቤውን የሚቁ ሰዎች መርጠው ለቀጣዩ ሳምንት ይዘው እንቀርቡ ተስማምተዋል። እንዲሁም ከዚህ በፊት ያልገቡ ካህናትን ማነጋገርና ማሳመን እንዳለባቸው ተወያይተውና የሚያነጋግሩ ሰዎችን መርጠው ሰይመዋል።

እንደተባለውም በጣዩ ማለትም በአራተኛው ሳምንት  ስብሳባ ላይ ባለፈው ሳምንት የተሰጣችውን የቤት ሥራ በመጀመሪያ ሪፖርት እንዲያደርጉ ከዚያም ለቅዱስ ፓትርያርኩ ስለሚላከው ደብዳቤ ረቂቅ ውይይት እንዲደረግ ሰብሳቢው አባ ወልደ ሰማዕት ማሳሰቢያ ሰጥተዋል። ካህናትን ነጋገርን በተመለከተ አባ ገብረ ኪዳን ተጠምቀ ኦክላንድ እና ሳንሆ ያሉ ካህናትን እንዳነጋገሩ፣ መልአከ ኪዳን ቀሲስ ሳሙኤል አንጀለስ ቅድስት ሥላሴ ያሉ ካህናትን እንዳነጋገሩ፣ በኩረ ትጉ አቡሃይ ኦሪጎን ያሉ ካህናትን እንዳናገሩ ጥቅሰዋል። በዚህም ካነጋገሯቸው አብያተ ክርስቲያናት አባቶች ያገኙትን አሉታዊና ንታዊ መልስ ለተሰብሳቢዎቹ  ገልጸዋል።

በመቀልም  በየአብያተ ክርስቲያናቱ ያለውን ወቅታዊ ችግር  ሪፖርት አድርጉ በተባሉት ረት የመጀመሪያውን ሪፖርት ያቀረቡት የአሪዞናው ቀሲስ ይለ ኢየሱስ ሲሆኑ ያለባቸውን ወቅታዊ የቤተ ክርስቲያን ችግር አብራርተዋል ሀገረ ስብከቱ የላከውን ደብዳቤ አልተቀበሉትም እኔም እስካሁን በአየር ላይ ነው ያለሁት የሊቀ ጳጳሱንም  ስም አልጠሩም በማለት ገልጸዋል። ከዚያም በመቀጠል የላስ ቬጋሱ ቀሲስ ሳሙኤል ደጀኔ ጁላይ 26/2012 በተደረገው የቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱ  ምዕመናን ቅላላ ጉባኤ ላይ የነበረውን ደት ሪፖርት ሲያቀርቡ ቤተ ክርስቲያኒቷም እስከ አሁን ድረስ አቡነ ፋኑኤልን እንደማትጠራና የርሳቸውንም ሐሳብ ሕዝቡ በስብሰባ ወቅት ውድቅ እንደረገባቸው ጠቅሰው አሁንም ግሩፕ በሆነ አካሄድ የሊቀ ጳጳሱን ስም ላለመጥራት ወስነዋል (ሕዝቡ) ፍትሐ ነገሥት እየተጠቀሰ ሲብራራለት ውሎአል ብለዋል።

በመካከሉም የኦክላንዱ ቀሲስ ሞላ ውቤ የት ነው እሱ እንህ የተደረገው?” ብለው ሲጠይቁ ላስ ጋስ ነው ብለው ሲመልሱም አብሮዎት ያሉ ካህን ማን ይባላሉ?” በማለት በድጋሜ ቀሲስ ሞላ ጠየቁ መልአከ ሳሌም አባ ገብረ ኪዳን ናቸው እንደ ፕሬዝዳንት ኦባማ በጣም ብዙ ጊዜ ሲያስጨበጭቡ ነው ያመሹት በማለት አብራርተዋል የነገር ቁና በመተብተብ ታዋቂው ሊቅ ሞገስ እጅጉ ምን ገብረኪዳን ነው (ገብረ ከዳን) ነው እንጅ በማለት በመሳለቅ ጉባኤው ሳቅ በሳቅ አድርገውታል፡ቀሲስ ሳሙኤልም ይህንንምዕመናኑን ጉባኤ ቪዲዮ እንደቀረጹትና አስፈላጊ ከሆነም ለዚህ የካህናቱ ጉባኤና ለፓትርያርኩ ሊልኩ ዝግጁ እንደሆኑ አስረድተውል። በተያያዥም ሊቀ ጳጳሱን የተቃዎሙትን ካህናት ስም ዝርዝር ከዌብሳይት ላይ ፕሪንት እንዳደረጉት እና ለቅዱስ ፓትርያርኩ ከደብዳቤው ጋራ አያይዘው እንደሚልኩት ለካህናቱ ጉባኤ ገልጸዋል።

ይህንን ጁላይ 29/2012 የተደረገውን ጉባኤ ለየት የሚያደርገው ነገር ቢኖር ሊቀ ካህናት ኀይለ ሥላሴ ለማየሁን ጨምሮ በርከት ያሉ ካህናት አለመግባታቸው ነው። በውይይቱ ወቅትም ለፓትርያርኩ በአድራሻ የተጻፈው ባለ ስምንት ነጥብ የክስ ደብዳቤ ከላይ ለመግለጥ እንደተሞከረው ማኅበረ ቅዱሳንን ማኅበረ በዓለ ወልድን እና የሰንበት ትምህርት ቤቶች አንድነት ጉባኤን  እንዲሁም  ባሁኑ ሰዓት ቤተ ክርስቲያንን በመዋጋት ላይ ያሉትን የመናፍቃን ሴራ በማጋለጥ መልስ በመስጠት እንዲሁም ወቅታዊ የቤተ ክርስቲያንን ሁኔታ ለሕዝቡ በማቅረብ ላይ ያሉትን ደጀ ሰላምን አሐቲ ተዋዶን፣ አንድ አድርገንን፣ ገብር ሔርንና ደቄቀ ናቡቴን ከመናፍቃን ድረ-ገጽ ጋር በመደመር የሚያወግዝ ነው። በስብሰባው ላይ ቄስ ፍስሐ የተባሉት ተሰብሳቢ ስለ አባ ሰላማ ብሎግ ሲያብራሩ እነሱ የመናፍቃን አሉት እንጅ እኔ በበኩሌ አላምንበትም (የመናፍቃን አልለውም)” ሲሉ የካህናቱ ጉባኤ ነውም አይደለምም ሳይል ዝም ብሎ ማለፉ አስገራሚ ሆኗል።

ይህ የሚሳየን የዚህ የካህናት ስብሰባ ዓላማ ለቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱ በመቆርቆር ሳይሆን ማኅበረ ቅዱሳንን እና መሰል ማኅበራትን እንት ማፍረስ እንዳለባችው ለመዶለት በመሆኑ እንጂ ቄሱ የተናገሩት ነገር የሚታለፍ ሆኖ አልነበረም። በመሠረቱ ደጀ ሰላም የካህናትን መሰብሰብ እና ስለ መብታቸው እና ስለ አገልግሎታቸው መመካከር በጽኑዕ ትደግፋለች። “ስቅሎ ስቅሎ” (ስቀለው ስቀለው) ለማለት ብቻ መሰብሰብ ግን ጌታን ከሰቀሉት አይሁድ ይደምራቸው ካልሆነ ከእውነተኞቹ አበው ጎራ አያሰልፋቸውም። ዛሬ አቡነ ፋኑኤልን እና የአባ ሰላማን ጥምረት ከምእመናን ቁታ ለማዳን እንደተሰባሰቡት በመናፍቃን እና በአረማውያን እንዲሁም በሙስና በተዘፈቁ መሪዎቿ የሚደርስባትን መከራ ቀንበር ለማቅለል ምንም ፍላጎት የሌላቸው ሆነው መገኘታቸው በእጅጉ ልብን በሐዘን ይሰብራል።

በስብሰባው መካከል አንዱ የውይይት ሐሳብ አቅራቢ ሲናገሩ እንደሰማነው እና የመከራከሪያ ነጥብ አድርገው ያቀረቡት ደጀ ሰላም ስለ ቅ/ፓትርያርኩ የዘገበችውን አዲሱን የስማቸውን ቅጥያ መጠቀም እና አለመጠቀምን በተመለከተ ነው። የዚህን ከሥርዓት ውጪ የሆነ የፓትርያርክ ስም ጋጋት እንደ ቁምነገር ቆጥረው መነጋገሪአ ማድረጋቸው እንኳን በእነርሱ ደረጃ በሚንቋቸው በሰንበት ት/ቤቶች ደረጃም የሚሆን አለመሆኑን የተገነዘቡት አይመስልም።

ወቅቱም በተለይም እነዚህ ካህናት በሚገኙባቸው የአሜሪካ ስቴቶች የሚገኙ ምእመናን እና የሰንበት ት/ቤቶች እንዱሁም ሰበካ ጉባኤዎች ስለ እነርሱ ምን እንደሚሉ እና ምን እንደሚያስቡ ማወቅ ይኖርባቸዋል። ሰንበት ተማሪዎቹንም ሆነ ሌሎቹን ምእመናን ለቤተ ክርስቲአናቸው ምንም እንደማያገባቸው፣ ገንዘብ አምጡ ሲባሉ ብቻ ማምጣት እንዳለባቸው፣ ካሱ ኢላላ ስለ ኢትዮጵያው ቴሌ እንዳሉት “የሚታለቡ ላሞች” አድርገው መውሰዳቸው እጅግ አሳዛኝ ነው። አሁንም እንላቸዋለን ሃይማኖትን በተመለከተ ምእመን የለም፣ ዲያቆን የለም፣ ቄስና ጳጳስ የለም ሁሉም ያገባዋል። ሁላችንም ያገባናል። ምእመኑም፣ እናንተ እንዳላችሁት “የሚታለብ ጥገት ላም” አይደለም። ገንዘቡን እንደምትፈልጉት እርሱንም መፈለግ ይገባችሁ ነበር።

ማስታወሻ፦ የአምስቱንም ሳምንታት ስብሰባ ሙሉ ውይይት ማስረጃ በእጃችን አለን። እንደ አስፈላጊነቱ በድምጽ የምናቀርብላችሁ መሆኑን በአክብሮት እንገልጻለን።

የቤተ ክርስቲያን አምላክ እግዚአብሔር ቤቱን ይጠብቅ። አሜን

ቸር ወሬ ያሰማን።

59 comments:

Anonymous said...

Egiziabhair letegefut yibel Patriarich abune merekorios saymotu endemotu tedergo be rasachew lay lala patriarch moshomu yetmeto new, ahunm Egziabhair ewnetun yiglets, Orthodox eminetachin and yadirgilin kefafyochin lib yistilin, Enquanim Abatachin patriarich Merqorious behiwot norulin

Anonymous said...

ማዕበሉ ቢነሰና ንውጽውጽታው ቢበዛ፣ እነ ጲላጦስ እያወቁ ስቅሎ ስቅሎ ያለውን ሰምተው ቢፈርዱ፣ እኛ ጋር ያለው እግዚአብሒር ነውና ብፍጹም አንፍራ።
እነዚህ ሆዳም ካህናት ሁሉ፣ ከአምላካቸው ሆዳቸውን፣ ከእምነታቸው ክብራቸውን ፈልገው፣ ወጣቶቹ መናፍቃንን መጋፈጣቸውን እያወቁ ከእነሱ ጋር አብረው መመካከራቸው ከሰዱቃውያንና ፈሪሳውያን ያልተሻሉ ካህናት ክብር፣ ካህናተ ብር ናቸውና እኛ ግን በያለንበት እንጽና... ሊጠራ ሲል ይደፈርሳል፣ ሊነጋ ሲል ደግሞ ይጨልማልና....

Anonymous said...

Yihudan Yimesil tedebiko memker min Yibalal. Leboch Kahinat

Anonymous said...

I really lack words to express my feeling!!!! Amazing! What is very amazing is the efforts you are making to disclose such wicked missions and the way you get the first hand information..... May God bless you every minute of your life.....
May the intercession of Our Blessed Mother, Mother of God be with you for ever, AMEN!!!!

Anonymous said...

Dear Deje Selams,
Let the Love of God and Peace be unto you!

I am from Las Vegas.
Without any exageration what has been said to Kesis Samuel of our church shows only a small portion of his arrogance. It is very hard to tell in full detail about his destractive and selfish potential. He is Surrounded by his family members and they all act as if they own the church. I know it is not right to ask such a question after 8 years but does he really deserve the Priesthood? was he really active deacon back home? Didn't he lost it while he was in the military and start serving with no fear to God and there after jump into Priesthood when he get it out in the open? I know these were questions to be asked when he was allowed to serve as a deacon in the previous church here in las vegas.
About the Video tape he said in our recent meeting here in Las Vegas no one was not and will not be shy to tell the reality. We know him very well that he even record personal phone discussion to use it one against the other. So it is not new of him.
What happened to this people(so called priests)that they become so blinded by their personal ego and go always against thier Parishioners?
To my fellow orthodox christians here in las vegas let us not give him a chance to divide us along any given line. Let us be one and give him no chance. There is a clear evidence that he is calling parishioners to miscommunicate the rest of the Priests and deacons as you know he has ample time to do so as he is not driving taxi now.

Let God keep away the wolves from our church!!

Anonymous said...

ምን ያድርጉ ማህሌት አይቆሙ ሰዓታት የለ ቅዳሴ በየቀኑ አይቀድሱ
ሥራ የፈታ አዕምሮ የሰይጣን ጽህፈት ቤቱ አይዶል

dallasie said...

Yemigermew bizuwochachin enezihin sewoch enawkachewalen.Bizuwochu Zeregnoch yehonu,legenzeb tikim bicha yaderu mehonu bilom tikitochu(ende Kesis Fiseha yalut)menafik mehonachew yitawekal.Keenesu bizum altebikim neber.
Maninetachew begilits kemetawek wuchi.
Really i appreciate Dejeselam for the information.
please attach the video records.
By the way how do they think that the church will continue without the help of the youngsters? "the church without the involvement of the young is the church without vision" Abune shenoda.So do they think the church has not any more Vision? Yedalasu like maymiran Moges ejigu aba Gebre kidanin lemewukes Moralu yelewotim....Degmos yemimenanun Genzeb sebsibew leglo yawalu honew sale .......degmo bezih metu....erasewo aydel ende yekedun....? libona yistachihu

Anonymous said...

this not true oh!U guys pleas pleas pleas in the name of GOD don't disturb miskin hezbe Egziyabeher yeker yebelachu leb yestachu.....tewu gif feru .................................

Anonymous said...

ደጀ ሰላሞች ስላስነባባችሁን ደረጃውን የጠበቀና በመረጃ የተደገፈ ዜና ላመሰግን እወዳለሁ። ዜናውን ካነበብኩ በኋላ የተሰማኝን ከፍተኛ ሐዘን ለመግለጽ የምችልበት ቃላት አጣሁ። እነዚህ ካህናት አባቶች የቤተክርስቲያንን ማዕከላዊ አስተዳደርን ለማስጠበቅ ሲሉ ያለስማቸው ስም የተሰጣቸውን ወጣቶች ተጠቅመው ባገኙት ዝና እና ክብር ተመለሰው ያመኗቸውንና የሚወዷቸውን ወጣቶች ለመክሰስ መሰባሰባቸው ልብን ይሠብራል። ምነው አባቶቻችን ምን ነካችሁ? በእርግጥ ሰብሳቢዎቹና የጉዳዩ ዋና ተዋናኞች በዘረኝነትና በፖለቲካ መንፈስ የተመረዙ፣ ፍጹም ጨካኞችና ለማንም የማይራሩ መሆናችው የታወቀ ቢሆንም ስማችሁን በዚህ የከለባት ጉባኤ ዝርዝር ውስጥ ባላነብ ደስ የሚለኝ ጥቂት አባቾች ነበራችሁ (ስማችሁ በሃሰት/በስህተት የተጠቀሰ ካላቸሁ በአስቸኳይ ማስተባበያ ልትሰጡ ይገባል)።በሌላ ጎኑ የፈተና መልካም ጎኑ እውነተኛውና ሃሰተኛውን መለየት በመሆኑ እንኳን አወቅናችሁ። መጽሐፍ እንደሚል የማይገለጥ የተከደነ፥ የማይታወቅም የተሰወረ ምንም የለምና። እኛ አባትነታችሁን አክብረን አብረናችሁ የቆምነውና መስቀላችሁን በክብር የምንሳለመው ስለቤተክርስቲያን ክብር መሆኑን እንጂ ማንነታችሁን ሳናውቅ ቀርተን እንዳልሆን የተረዳችሁት አይመስልም። ከእንግዲህ ወዲህ የምታታልሉትን ፈልጉ እንጂ በቤተክርስቲያን ስም የእናንተን አጀንዳ ልታስፈጽሙ አትችሉም።

የምንነግራችሁ እውነት ግን እኛ ቤተከርስቲያናችንን በጽናት ከማገልገል አንዲት ጋት ወደ ኋላ የማንመለስና የምትፈጽሙትን የጭለማ ተግባር ከመግለጥ የማንመለስ መሆኑን ነው። ይህንን ስንል ቤተክርስቲያናችን ዛሬም ቢሆን ብዙ እውነተኛና ለሃይማኖታቸው የቆሙ አባቶች እንዳላት ሳንዘነጋ መሆኑን እንድትረዱት ጭምር እንፈልጋለን። ቤታችን ቱሓን ገባ ብለን ቤታችንን የምናቃጥል ዕብዶች እንዳልሆንም በተግባር እናሳያችኋለን። እናነተም እየተገዳደራችሁ ያላችሁት በአባቶች ፈንታ ልጆችን ለቤተክርስቲያን የተካውን አምላክ መሆኑን ተገንዝባችሁ፣ ከዘረኝነት ፣ ከሙስናና ከከንቱ ውዳሴ ተላቃችሁ ለንሰሐ እንድትበቁና ልብ ያላችሁ ራሳችሁን ከዚህ የአመጽ ሥራ እንድትለዩ እንጸልያለን።

ምእመናንም እውነተኞቹን እረኞች ከሃሰተኞቹ ለመለየት የሚያስቸግርበት የፈተና ዘመን ላይ መሆናችን ተገንዝበን ሃይማኖታችንን በመጠበቅ እንጸና። ለእነዚህ ካህናት እኩይ ተግባር መሣሪያ ከመሆን ራሳችን እንጠብቅ። እነርሱን የግል ጥቅማቸውን ለማስጠበቅ የሚጠቀሙበትና አሁን የቀራቸው የመጨረሻ ካርድ የዘረኝነት/የጎጠኝነት ስብከታቸው ሊሆን ስለሚችል በዚያ ጠልፈው የአንዲት ቤተክርስቲያን ልጆችን እንዳይከፋፍሉን እንጠንቀቅ።

እስቲ እኔም በበኩሌ አንባቢያንን ምክር ልጠይቅ ደግሞ። ከእንደዚህ ዓይነት ካህናት ጋር ለማገልገልና አገልግሎታቸውን ስለመቀበል የእግዚአብሔር ቃል ምን ይላል?

Anonymous said...

Anynymous at "August 1, 2012 10:37 PM"
What is not true? Explain it.. What is Gif explain it

Dejeselam, Whatever you report I have to appreciated your work!!! Now I think every evil minded gathering know who you are in fear..

Good job.
Egziabher Yirdachihu

Anonymous said...

ምን ያድርጉ ማህሌት አይቆሙ ሰዓታት የለ ቅዳሴ በየቀኑ አይቀድሱ
ሥራ የፈታ አዕምሮ የሰይጣን ጽህፈት ቤቱ አይዶል
I really like this... I was thinking about this and the Anony kedemegn.

Anonymous said...

Wud Anony kezih betach yetesafewun
"this not true oh!U guys pleas pleas pleas in the name of GOD don't disturb miskin hezbe Egziyabeher yeker yebelachu leb yestachu.....tewu gif feru ................................." kalamenk... ask them the recordings and you will shut your mouth. The mentioned that they do have recodrings..... So what are you saiying. Gif lalkew gifuma belijochachew lay bemimekiru kahinat lay new

Anonymous said...

This website is a gossip and rumor site. Where is your spirituality? Where is your christian manner? Your writing is like a Hollywood style scandal tabloid. Lord Have Mercy!!!

Anonymous said...

Egizabehare yesetachohe

DAJASALAMOCHE GENE LAUSA TADALALACHOHE YEHONE??????????y

Anonymous said...

Wow! Are you sure it's not true? I personally know it's true man and I'm very far from dejeselam or any association (maheber) [but I'm very proude of both of them].
So, you don't have to lie. ላንተም ልብ ይስጥህ።

Anonymous said...

Harmon & Maryland ke-vegas

I am not surprised by kesis samuel, but i blame all in the sunday school who was kissing their .... for a long time like he is an angel and look what happen, now they cry out loud. This are their first mistakes

1- why did they pay him monthly salary? He use to work and now he gets money every month for sitting and creating all this problem.
2= When you see him inside the church you can tellthat he has very big ego.

Last but least i blame the church deyqonat,and sunday school members for allowing this issue to get big when they can cut him loose when they can.

asbet dngl said...

ምን ያድርጉ ማህሌት አይቆሙ ሰዓታት የለ ቅዳሴ በየቀኑ አይቀድሱ
ሥራ የፈታ አዕምሮ የሰይጣን ጽህፈት ቤቱ አይዶል
I really like this... I was thinking about this and the Anony kedemegn

Anonymous said...

እግዚአብሔር ይመስገን መቸም የቤ/ክንን ጥፋት የማይወድ እርሱ ሁሉን ገለጸዉ አሁን መዘጋጀት ነዉ

Anonymous said...

I am from Las Vegas.
Without any exageration what has been said to Kesis Samuel of our church shows only a small portion of his arrogance. It is very hard to tell in full detail about his destractive and selfish potential. He is Surrounded by his family members and they all act as if they own the church. I know it is not right to ask such a question after 8 years but does he really deserve the Priesthood? was he really active deacon back home? Didn't he lost it while he was in the military and start serving with no fear to God and there after jump into Priesthood when he get it out in the open? I know these were questions to be asked when he was allowed to serve as a deacon in the previous church here in las vegas.
About the Video tape he said in our recent meeting here in Las Vegas no one was not and will not be shy to tell the reality. We know him very well that he even record personal phone discussion to use it one against the other. So it is not new of him.
What happened to this people(so called priests)that they become so blinded by their personal ego and go always against thier Parishioners?
To my fellow orthodox christians here in las vegas let us not give him a chance to divide us along any given line. Let us be one and give him no chance. There is a clear evidence that he is calling parishioners to miscommunicate the rest of the Priests and deacons as you know he has ample time to do so as he is not driving taxi now.

Let God keep away the wolves from our church
u right brother, before i was looking this guy (kesis samuel)like the living angel.lots of church members told me about him,but i didn't trust any one.but now i know what he is doing.he is like diablos...

Anonymous said...

Dear Dejeselam, Andargen , Ahati, and all the true sons and daughters of Ethiopian Tewahedo May GOD bless u again again again, exposing such nasty, weird, dishonest, shameful, arrogant, menafikan kahinat meeting.

I really lack words to express my feeling!!!! Amazing! What is very amazing is the efforts you are making to disclose such wicked missions and the way you get the first hand information..... May God bless you every minute of your life.....
May the intercession of Our Blessed Mother, Mother of God be with you for ever, AMEN!!!!

Anonymous said...

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ምን ያድርጉ ማህሌት አይቆሙ ሰዓታት የለ ቅዳሴ በየቀኑ አይቀድሱ
ሥራ የፈታ አዕምሮ የሰይጣን ጽህፈት ቤቱ አይዶል
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Anonymous said...

weye medehaniyalem meneyeshalenale gene?

Anonymous said...

ልቦና ያድለን ለሁላችንም

yemariam said...

D.J. bertu ewnwt kewshet yemileybet gizew derswal yekdusan abatochachen Amalak yetemesegene yhun.

Anonymous said...

Ere rega belu abatoch. Aba woldesemayat ere yalefubetin astawsu. Wotatu new eko lezih yabekawot. betam ysazinal.

Anonymous said...

this is not surprising about kessise samuel for any body who been last week meeting here in las vegas.he is totally arrogant, selfish and disrespectful for all members of the church.any way i would like to ask "the ssebeka gubay" and the members of the church of Saint Michel and Saint Kidan mehret in las vega why we wait him until he distorted the church he is just one we should tell him we don't need you . wake up vegas you are the one paying his salary and run the church
he should respect your idea.but in my opinion let me tell you kessise samuel you are not any more part ethiopian orthodox church you are part tehadeso or menafican. i am not giving you any respect after this time.

Anonymous said...

thx dejeselam .please post it the sound recored we need it badly.

Anonymous said...

Thanks so much D.S, its very improtant to know these people. Very well done report plz keep it up. Labatochachen ena legnam lib yesten.

Anonymous said...

I think we should pray harder than ever for God to give us peace and unit. To protect His people from Aderbay Abatoch and chruch Committes.

Please pray for God to forgive us for our sin Endecherenetu!!!

Anonymous said...

Pray Pray Pray... it is getting difficult to trust anyone

Anonymous said...

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ምን ያድርጉ ማህሌት አይቆሙ ሰዓታት የለ ቅዳሴ በየቀኑ አይቀድሱ
ሥራ የፈታ አዕምሮ የሰይጣን ጽህፈት ቤቱ አይዶል
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Yediboyitu said...

Someone said***ምን ያድርጉ ማህሌት አይቆሙ ሰዓታት የለ ቅዳሴ በየቀኑ አይቀድሱ
ሥራ የፈታ አዕምሮ የሰይጣን ጽህፈት ቤቱ አይዶል*** what a brilliant observation(two thumbs up) ,I think we need to keep our eyes and ears open and pass every information to those who do not follow up on Dejeselam to make them aware of what is going on inside every church here in USA and everywhere else and perhaps work on getting rid off these kinds of the so called Kahinat but in reality they are church enemies.

May God Keep His Peace With Us!

Anonymous said...

Gubae Kelebat (Yewushoch Gubae).. Amlak Betechristiyanachinin yitebikilin!!!

Anonymous said...

Brile Keneka Ayhonem Eka! Just through it to trash. Way back The British and Italy and even now tried to colaps our truth way but they can't. God will raise somebody. Wake up Ethiopians! This the so-called High priest decaons as well they claim preachers stol millions of dollars by the name God. By the name of Church... etc Wake up God dosen't need your money, He only needs your broken heart.

Anonymous said...

i live in vegas. i follow the church saint kidanmehret and i was very happy in the service for long time .and i had a great respect for melake kidan samuel but this year when we discuse with some of my friends. they told me things that i can't expect and i always try to protect melake kidan samuel because i think he is right ,perfect and holly....until last meeting of the church.after that all my friends was right and now we read more about him.it is very sad. and i feel he was cheating us all this time. I'm so sorry i can trust you any more.at last i have a qution for melake kidan samuel.DO HAVE A MORAL TO STAND IN FRONT OF GOD AND THIS PEOPLE??? IF I WEARE YOU MY ANSWER WILL BE NO!!!BUT I WILL WAITING YOUR ANSWER IN PRACTISE.the father of our holly protect our church from tehadeso/menafican.amen

Anonymous said...

baganezabe nawe yakadachehone wayes?????????yaletadalachoh AMELAKACHEN gene aletawane badakamawe adero yetadaganale

Anonymous said...

YAYAZACHEHOTEN MASEKAL EYOTTE YEFAREDEBACHOHALE

Anonymous said...

ayeeee yanafese abate

Anonymous said...

lamanegesto yabekachohe Dejeselamoche

Anonymous said...

From Seattle St. Micheal church, (where I still go every Sunday)
We all as a member of the church have responsibilities for what is reported above.
Specially, Sunday school, Deacons, the so called different Committees in the church. AderBay hula… Beseme betekrestyan sentun sew aslekesachu! Because of your luck of ethics, maturity and ignorance, how many left the church?

I want to say that Sunday School and Deacons Yejachewen naw Yagenut... they have given Aba Weldesemayat the undeserved power. When we (memenan) question things they keep saying that we are not supposed to question "Abatoch"... what the heck is that supposed to me. Now what? You need our help and support … you fight your battle. It is time for us to see how you can survivor w/o the majority.

We had cried for long not because of Aba Weldesemayat but because of the arrogant, selfish, ignorant Sunday school and Deacons as well as church committee members (I can name every single one of them along with their actions but I have a fear of God) who were Achebechabe and main support of Aba Weldesemayat. Now they are the big opponent of him. Lehulum Geze Alew …..
I personally, always question mental ability of these people every day when I see how they function and respond regarding the church. None of them stand for the church but their personal recognition and title whatever it might be. The ones who have a little bit of academic and church knowledge are the worst. Enesu Nachew Yehene Betekrestyan Lezeh Yedaregut. Mamezazen Yegodelachew, Besew Hayle Yememeru!!!!

I would say, I am glad this happened and they saw the fruit of their seeds. Now Aba WeldeseMayat and Gebraberchachew raised against the varies group, they start screaming… what goes around comes around. Like I said, I am glad they witness the fruit of their seeds. Our crying has got answered as far as Seattle’s St. Michael church goes.

That being said, it is a challenging time for our church and our country and we all need to unite and pray for God’s Will to bring favor, blessing and mercy to us. For God to forgive our wrong doings and lead us live a life according to His will and words. Please pray hard, God will hear at least one of our prayer and save us!!!

Anonymous said...

This is just amazing. I can't wait to see their face on Sunday at church.

If it wasn't for your post, I probably think them as the pure God's servant (not really but so so).

Don't they know they can not control people. Time has changed ... Aba Aba eyalu menor Kertwal.. they need to see the memo that it is 21st century.

We have a blessing of all the Abaotch in various monestary. If God willing that will last as to the end of the world.

We don't need the so called Abatoch who sit their butt off infornt of the TV all day and spread rumor by cell phone.

If they were real Abatoch, they should have put more effort to do as little as Yeserk Tselot which might keep them busy.

But o no... they have to distroy the church and the people with it.

God will Judge.

And, we will keep praying. This post is the answer for so many prayers. God is wanting us to be informed and know who we are dealing with.

Please keep on praying hard.

Anonymous said...

DO YOU WANT DESTROY MAHEBER KIDUSAN AND OTHERS SHAME ON "OUR"PRIESTS .NEEL DOWEN AND CONFESS YOUR SIN TO ALMIGHTY GOD!HE MIGHT BE FORGIVE YOUR SIN AND THEN YOU WILL PRAY FOR US .BEFORE THAT I DONT THINK YOU WILL HAVE A MORAL CAN DO THAT.GOD PLEASE GIVE US YOUR FORGIVENESS .
SAHME ON YOU MELAKE KIDAN AND OTHERS YOUR EVIL FRIENDS. OUR CHURCH NEVER CRATED AND DESTROYED BY YOU AND YOU LIKE.IT IS BY THE BLOOD OF THE SON OF HOLLY AND ALMIGHTY GOD.AMEN.

Anonymous said...

From Seattle St. Micheal church, (where I still go every Sunday)
We all as a member of the church have responsibilities for what is reported above.
Specially, Sunday school, Deacons, the so called different Committees in the church. AderBay hula… Beseme betekrestyan sentun sew aslekesachu! Because of your luck of ethics, maturity and ignorance, how many left the church?

I want to say that Sunday School and Deacons Yejachewen naw Yagenut... they have given Aba Weldesemayat the undeserved power. When we (memenan) question things they keep saying that we are not supposed to question "Abatoch"... what the heck is that supposed to me. Now what? You need our help and support … you fight your battle. It is time for us to see how you can survivor w/o the majority.

We had cried for long not because of Aba Weldesemayat but because of the arrogant, selfish, ignorant Sunday school and Deacons as well as church committee members (I can name every single one of them along with their actions but I have a fear of God) who were Achebechabe and main support of Aba Weldesemayat. Now they are the big opponent of him. Lehulum Geze Alew …..
I personally, always question mental ability of these people every day when I see how they function and respond regarding the church. None of them stand for the church but their personal recognition and title whatever it might be. The ones who have a little bit of academic and church knowledge are the worst. Enesu Nachew Yehene Betekrestyan Lezeh Yedaregut. Mamezazen Yegodelachew, Besew Hayle Yememeru!!!!

I would say, I am glad this happened and they saw the fruit of their seeds. Now Aba WeldeseMayat and Gebraberchachew raised against the varies group, they start screaming… what goes around comes around. Like I said, I am glad they witness the fruit of their seeds. Our crying has got answered as far as Seattle’s St. Michael church goes.

That being said, it is a challenging time for our church and our country and we all need to unite and pray for God’s Will to bring favor, blessing and mercy to us. For God to forgive our wrong doings and lead us live a life according to His will and words. Please pray hard, God will hear at least one of our prayer and save us!!!

Anonymous said...

thank you Dejeselamoch!
Mechem ene yemilew enkuan teweyayu,enkuan begizie awekinachew.Mechem kahun wedia ayatalilunim.

Anonymous said...

If so, it is true, am appreciat you try best to gother any hiden info God be with you.Amen

Anonymous said...

አቤት የሆዳም "አባቶች" ስብሰባ

እነዚህ አባት ተብዬዎች እኮ የጥቅም ነጋዴዎች ናቸው። አሁን የአቡነ ጳውሎስ ትህዛዝ አስከባሪ ነኝ ከተባሉት መሃል ፤አንዱ የሆኑት ካህን መሣይ ነጋዴ እኮ የውጪው ስኖዶስ ተክታይ ከሆነው ስያትል ገብርኤል ቤ/ክርስቲያን ለማገልገል ሲማጸኑ ከርመው፤ ተቀይነት ሲያጡ እኮ ነው፤ የ አባ ጳውሎስ አገልጋይ የሆኑት። አሳፋሪ ሆዳሞች። አሁን ም እመናን በተለይም አድሱ ትውልድ ቤ/ክርስቲያኑን ካልጠበቀ፤ እነዚህ ዳይኖሶሮች፤ ይዘውን ገደል ነው የሚገቡት። ወጣቱ ላይ የተጋረጠው ፈተና፤ ወያኔ መላው ኢትዮጵያዊ ማህበሩ እንዲናጋ የሚደረግ ዘመቻ ነው። ሆዳሞች፤

Anonymous said...

Well said. MenAynet geze naw befetari.

I still question the motive and mental stabiltity of the Sunday school, Deacons and so called commities at St. Micheal.
As the saying goes, full me once shame on you and full me twice ....

I dont trust their judgement becuase they are like animals who just follow whoever is infront od them, they just follow the crowed and it is always the same group and the same individual.
They think they are better than us just because they are member of eitherK or this group or that group.

So, i say first have a fear of God, respect us ... You very single one of you are no better than anyone of us. Please use your own brain! I cant tell you how librating it is to use your own brain and question things and listen others.

Do not keep doing the same mistake over and over again...
Beraschehu eji eyewedekacehu yenan selam atebetbetu....

Anonymous said...

I wasnt surprised to read about the one from Seattle either... What was reported above exactly what he would say. He has been displaying the exact same attitude before and ppl were buying it.
I never understood why?
When and how is it ok for a father to disrespect his children? How is someone a father if he doesnt teach by example let alone a spritual father?

KesBekes meselogn Enkulal Begeru Yemehedew...

Anonymous said...

ተዋቸው የመውጊያውን ብረት ቢቃወሙ ለራሳቸው ነው የሚብስባቸው እኛ በህይወታችንም፦ በኑራችንም፤ እርም ከሆነው ነገር ብቻ እንከልከል

Anonymous said...

I am from DC. questioned Anonymous who talked about Seattle St. Mechael Sunday school.OK, let's say the sunday school and some other committee supported Aba and ignored you. You were opposing Aba right? Lets say you are "Perfect and correct". Now they joined you and oppose to protect our church. So, what is your problem? Focus on the real problem we are facing now, not to the past disagreement. አንተ የምታወራው ስለሰ/ት/ቤቱ ልጆች ጥፋት.. እየተወራ ያለው ሌላ:: እባክህ ወንድሜ/እህቴ ዋጋቸውን አገኘ የምትለው በቀለኛንትህን ስለሚያሳይ ይቅር ብለህ/ሽ ችግሩን አብሮ ወደ መፍታት ብትሄዱ

Anonymous said...

dear anonymous from DC
I mentioned the story (Seattle St Michael church) not for the sake of telling story or proof that we were right or to mebeqel anyone here. I just wanted to call your attention to what went wrong and these guys take the lesson what their wrong decision making bring about. As I said earlier I will say it again may God forgive our wrong doings, lets LISTEN ONE ANOTHER, unite and pray hard !!! God be with all of us!!!
anonymous from Seattle

Anonymous said...

Dear from DC, The past behavior is a predictor of a future behavior... communication is a two way street, you don't expect people to listen just/only you and ignore what they have to say. And, the past action surely set precedent.

They should have given value for others opinion and accept that their decision at the time luck thoughtfulness.

You can't solve problems if you don't take responsibilities for your past and future actions. You need to own it first, identify the elements that cause the problem, gather inputs from others, then you come up with alternate solutions. Accountability matters when you try to work together. An attitude of I know it/all better and you can only listen to me and just follow me won’t help anyone and will make the situation worse than making it any better.

You ask what my problem is? my problem is credibility, motive, accountability, respect and trust!!! You need all these to work together. How could you come together for the same goal if you miss one of these elements?

Focus on the real problem? They are part of the problem that is what I am saying. It is my opinion from experience. They are part of the problem!!! I didn't focus on the past disagreement, I just state the fact that how they are part of the problem and I personally don't want to see them act as innocent as they are (I have been attending a couple of meetings they called last month and they do act like it is something fall from the sky all of a student). Aba is playing "Awekush Nakush" with them too. They probably might have the same thinking process as you and say focus on the future… with whom?

By no means I am supporting the so called “Abawoch” wrong doing. Their action is embarrassing and not expected from a spiritual father at all. That being said, I do understand that IT IS A TESTING TIME FOR OUR CHURCH AND ALL THE CHURCH FOLLOWERS. OUR CURCH IS IN DENGER because of misleading behavior of some Abatoch.
I am not underestimating the power of working together either. We all need to come together to protect our church and the people in it from the heat wave that shadows us. But, who do we work with is my concern? Bebetkerstyan SemYemenesu bezwoch nachew but only teketoch really mean it. Only a few really work in the name of God and for God … others work just to please the people in their group whatever group it might be.

I apologize if I came negative on my comments but my intention is to lay out the facts based on my personal observation. The readers of these blog are from all over the world and they deserve to know the other side of the story for better judgment. Example, I get to learn issues at Las Vegas from the comment from Las Vegas and it was a good information. Knowing that people within in the Las Vegas church are realizing the issue and making decision based on their understanding is promising.

I believe prayer is the key here and We should pray God will bring peace and forgiveness for our church and his people according to His Will. For those who are working day and night to bring peace to the church may God show them the right way and give them the pure power that is only from him to do good.

Melkam Ken

Anonymous said...

weshetam daje selam betekerstianin lembetebet yetenesa tewled yeabatochin gebena medebeke enji hulunim mawetate min malet new enquane tesebesebu enquane tenageru mindin new tadya Abatochachinin yetebekline...kezihe ketergeme tewlde .....................

Anonymous said...

hahahaha weshatame mane enedahona awaken

Anonymous said...

See this is the way it goes. Fathers setup church in America, not to discharge their spiritual responsibilty, but as a means to amass wealth and source of income for theier families and themselves. They will use the youth to get there. Mabrekidusan and sunday school kids have been used for their money and resources. When you speak up, names will be made for them. They want the youth to follow fathers blindly. Youth did for some time. Like in St. Micheal church, many youth invested their money and resoruces and built the aba over there. they were supporting him blindly, they justified their action using cover of ONE CHURCH, ONE SYNOD and KALAWADI. Now aba is turning against them. using ONE CHURCH, ONE SYNOD and KALAWADI to chastize the youth and confise the laiety. In our church what they call one church is a marriage between aba paulos, TPLF and the junta. You can't use ONE CHURCH, ONE SYNOD and KALAWADI any more. YOUTH you paid price , wake up and kick this useless, greedy fathers out of our church. Let's worship in peace. May be we should go get our fathers from WALDIBA, we have so many true fathers.

Anonymous said...

What Waldeba monastry is being destroyed, is this important thing this so called fathers are discussing. they should be ashamed of themselves.

Anonymous said...

WHAT ABOUT NOW? WHERE IS THE PAPER? ABUNE PAULOS PASSED AWAY SO NOW WHAT YOU GOING TO DO. I AM REALY SORRY FOR YOU. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH WESHATAME. ANONUMOUS FORM SEATTLE

Anonymous said...

Shame on you ALL who call yourself 'Mahibere Kahinat'. I would appreciate you had you have done something good for the unity of the church. We haven't heard about your existence before, but when we just did you came out with your brand "Sekilo - Sekilo". This will remain to be your brand - I feel pity for you all! But we mi'emenan know your motives: instead of God you prefer to serve your master - Abune Fanuel. You make up a membership 'mahibere kahinat' to defend the irregularities and grave mistakes Abune Fanuel is doing. The fact that you haven't done a single thing for the Church before explains your motives. I start to question what you are doing in your respective churches behind the 'curtain' and it seems what you do is probably the same as Abune Fanuel is doing. "Afincha sineka ayen yalkisal".

You know very well Abune Fanuel has been unpopular in Awasa and all other places he was assigned, unless you are ignorant. What is surprising if the fruit of his actions follows him to North America and the people question his intentions? Ask the people of Awasa before you jump on teaming up to attach the church’s golden wealth, the young and dedicated Christians.

May the almighty help you to return to your heart and soul, Amen.

Anonymous said...

Shame on you ALL who call yourself 'Mahibere Kahinat'. I would appreciate you had you have done something good for the unity of the church. We haven't heard about your existence before, but when we just did you came out with your brand "Sekilo - Sekilo". This will remain to be your brand - I feel pity for you all! But we mi'emenan know your motives: instead of God you prefer to serve your master - Abune Fanuel. You make up a membership 'mahibere kahinat' to defend the irregularities and grave mistakes Abune Fanuel is doing. The fact that you haven't done a single thing for the Church before explains your motives. I start to question what you are doing in your respective churches behind the 'curtain' and it seems what you do is probably the same as Abune Fanuel is doing. "Afincha sineka ayen yalkisal".

You know very well Abune Fanuel has been unpopular in Awasa and all other places he was assigned, unless you are ignorant. What is surprising if the fruit of his actions follows him to North America and the people question his intentions? Ask the people of Awasa before you jump on teaming up to attack the church’s golden wealth - the young and dedicated Christians. But YOU ALL will pay a price for your ignorant actions.

May the almighty help you to return to your heart and soul, Amen.

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