July 17, 2011

እነበጋሻው “የምእመናንን ተቃውሞ የሚያበርድ” ያሉትን አዲስ ቪሲዲ እያዘጋጁ ነው


  • የቅጥር ማመልከቻቸው የጠቅላይ ቤተ ክህነቱን ሠራተኞች አስቆጥቷል
(ደጀ ሰላም፤ ጁላይ 17/2011/ TO READ IN PDF)፦ በጋሻው ደሳለኝን እና አጋሮቹ ራሳቸውን “ፍፁም ኦርቶዶክሳዊ” መሆናቸውን ለማሳየት ያዘጋጁት ነው የተባለ  ቪሲዲ በቅርቡ ለመልቀቅ ዝግጅት ላይ መሆናቸው ታውቋል። ቪሲዲው እነበጋሻው እንባቸውን እንደ ማየ ክረምቱ ሲያንዠቀዥቁ የሚያሳዩበት እንደሆነም ተነግሮለታል። በካሜራ ፊት በደቦ የተደረገ የልቅሶ ትዕይንት የሆነው የዚህ ቪሲዲ ተዋንያን በጋሻው ደሳለኝ፣ ትዝታው ሳሙኤል፣ ያሬድ አደመ፣ ዕዝራ ኀይለ ሚካኤልና ምርትነሽ ጥላሁን ሲሆኑ ልቅሶውን በመሪ ተዋናይነት በመምራት የሚያላቅሳቸው /አስለቃሹ/ ደግሞ በሪሁን ወንደወሰን ነው ተብሏል፡፡
በልቅሶ ዜማ ግጥም እንደ ዶፍ የሚወርደው ቃለ ተውኔትም የሚከተለው ቀለም ዐይነት መልክ እንዳለው የቅርብ ምንጮች ተናግረዋል፤
             “እኛ ተሐድሶ አይደለን
              እከክም የለ በጀርባችን
              በሃይማኖታችን ቅንጣት ያህል ጥርጥር የለን
              እባካችሁ አትረበሹ ምእመናን
              ውጊያው ነው የሰይጣን፡፡
             
              እንኳን እኛ ወንጌል የሰበክናችሁ፣
              እናንተም አትለውጡትም ሃይማኖታችሁን፤
              እጅግ ሃይማኖታችንን እንወዳታለን፤ እናፈቅራታለን፡፡
              ሕልሙም የለም፣ ሐሳቡም የለም
              ቢሆን ደስ ይላቸዋል እነሱ ቢሆን፤
              ምእመን ሆይ፣ ሲቆራረጥ /ቪሲዲውን/ ጠርጥር፤
              በገንፎ ውስጥም አይጠፋም ስንጥር
              ሙሉ ሲዲዬ ወደፊት ስለሚናገር”

በአለቃ ኪዳነ ወልድ አገላለጽ እንባ /እንብ/ የልቅሶ ፍሬ፣ የሐዘን ጠበል ካይን የሚፈልቅ፣ የሚፈለፈል፣ የሚፈላ የሚገነፍል ነው፤ ዐይነቱም ሁለት ወገን ነው - አንብዐ ሥጋ እና አንብዐ ጸጋ ወይም ሥጋዊና መንፈሳዊ ተብሎ ይታወቃል፡፡ በቤተ ክርስቲያናችንም የጽድቅ መሠረት የሆነው ጾም የእንባ መፍለቂያ ምንጭ እንደሆነ ተምረናል፤ ቅዱሳን አባቶቻችን የራሳቸውንና የወገኖቻቸውን ኀጢአት፣ ክርስቶስ በዕለተ ዓርብ የተቀበለውን መከራና በደሙ በዋጃት ቤተ ክርስቲያን ላይ አረማውያን፣ ከሐድያንና መናፍቃን ስለሚያደርሱት ጥፋት እንባቸው አልቆ እዥ፣ እዡ አልቆ ደም እስኪወጣቸው አንብተዋል፡፡ የእነበጋሻውን “የእንባ/ የልቅሶ ርእይ” የአባቶቻችንንና የእናቶቻችንን ይመስላል እንዳንለው አንብዐ ንስሐ ሳይሆን የዐይኔን ግንባር ያድርገው ሽምጠጣ ነው፤ ቀድሞ የተወገዙት ወገኖቻቸው መስቀል ይዘው፣ መጽሐፍ ቅዱስ መተው፣ ምለው ተገዝተው በተከሰሱበት የተሐድሶ ኑፋቄ እንደሌሉበት ሲናገሩ የዐባይ ዐባዩን እያወረዱት ነበር - ቆይቶ ለየላቸውና ከዱ እንጂ!!

“እኛም የምናጋልጠውን በቪሲዲ እናወጣለን” በማለት በማኅበረ ቅዱሳን፣ በሰባክያን ፀረ ተሐድሶ  ጥምረት አባላትና በሐዋሳ ምእመናን ላይ ሲፎክሩ የከረሙት እነበጋሻው ይህን የልቅሶ ቪሲዲ ለማውጣት ያስገደዳቸው በየስፍራው የተጠናከረባቸው የቤተ ክርስቲያን አስተዳደር፣ የቀናዒ አገልጋዮችና ምእመናን የተባበረ ርምጃ ነው፡፡ ተቃውሞው የተደራጀና የተጠናከረ ስለመሆኑ ሰሞኑን በገዛ አንደበታቸው የሰጡት ምስክርነት ተጠቃሽ ነው - በጋሻው “የተደራጀ ኀይል ኀይሉን በጣም አጠናክሮ የመጣ ይመስላል” ያለ ሲሆን ዘማሪ እስጢፋኖስ ሣህሌ (ቄሴ) ይቅርታ በመጠየቅ እነርሱን ስላጋለጠበት ምስክርነቱ የተጠየቀው ትዝታው ሳሙኤል ደግሞ “በተክልዬ ቤተ ክርስቲያን የተከሠተው ሁኔታ አሁን ካለው ችግር ጋራ በርግጥም ይገናኛል፡፡ በነገራችን ላይ በዛ ብቻ ሳይሆን በተቀናጀ ሁኔታ ሥራው እየተሠራ እንዳለ የምታውቀው በቃሊቲ ገብርኤል፣ በቅድስት ልደታ ሜክሲኮ፣ በቅዱስ ዑራኤል እንዲሁም ክፍለ ሀገር በድሬዳዋ፣ በሐዋሳ፣ በናዝሬት፣ በዲላ፣ በሐረር ወዘተ ሆን ተብሎ ገንዘብ ተመድቦለት እንደ ፕሮጀክት እየተሠራበት ነው” ብሏል፡፡

የሕገ ወጥ ቡድኑ አባላት የሆኑት እነ አሸናፊ ገብረ ማርያምና ምርትነሽ ጥላሁን በግንቦት ወር መጨረሻ በደብረ አሚን ጻድቁ አቡነ ተክለ ሃይማኖት ቤተ ክርስቲያን ብርቱ ተቃውሞ ካጋጠማቸው ወዲህ ተቃውሞው ሰንሰለታዊ መልክ ይዞ ቀጥሏል፡፡ ግንቦት 21 ቀን 2003 ዓ.ም በአሸናፊ ገብረ ማርያም፣ ተረፈ አበራ፣ ያሬድ አደመና በጋሻው ደሳለኝ አጋፋሪነት ጋብቻዋን ፈጽማ ግንቦት 27 ቀን በደብረ አሚን ጻድቁ አቡነ ተክለ ሃይማኖት ጉሸማ የደረሰባት ምርትነሽ ጥላሁን፣ ግንቦት 28 ቀን 2003 ዓ.ም ለሠርጉ መልስ ባመራችበትና ተወልዳ ባደገችበት ይርጋዓለም ቅዱስ ዐማኑኤልም የጠበቃት ተመሳሳይ ተቃውሞ ነበር፡፡

በዕለቱ በአጥቢያ ቤተ ክርስቲያኑ ታላቅ ጉባኤ ተዘጋጅቶ ዙሪያው ከተፈቀደላቸው አገልጋዮች ውጭ ረብሻ የሚፈጥሩ ሕገ ወጦችን በሚከላከል የፖሊስ ኀይል የጥበቃ ወረዳ ሥር ነበር፡፡ ካባዋን ለብሳ በእነ ተረፈ አበራና ትዝታው ሳሙኤል ታጅባ ወደ አጥቢያው ለመግባት የመጣችው ምርትነሽም “ተሳልማ ከመመለስ ውጭ ምንም ዐይነት መዝሙር ማድረግ እንደማትችል” ተነግሯት ተመልሳለች፡፡ ከዚህ በኋላ ነበር ሰኔ 11 ቀን አሰግድ ሣህ የሚያሽከረክራት መኪና ወደ ሜጋ ቅዱስ ሚካኤል ለመድረስ ጥቂት ኪሎ ሜትሮች ሲቀር ተገልብጦ ጉዳት የደረሰባት፡፡ “ግጥምና ዜማ እሰጣችኋለሁ” በሚል በበጋሻው ደሳለኝ ከፍተኛ ተጽዕኖ የሚደረግባት ምርትነሽ ጥላሁን ከሌሎቹ የሕገ ወጥ ቡድኑ አባላት ቢያንስ አጽዋማትን በማክበር /በመጠበቅ/ እንደምትለይ ይነገርላታል፡፡

በጋሻው ደሳለኝ በግንቦት ወር አጋማሽ በአንድ ነጋዴ ወዳጁ ጠሪነት “አስተምራለሁ” ብሎ ከሄደበት ከናዝሬት ጻድቁ አቡነ አረጋዊ ቤተ ክርስቲያን በአስተዳዳሪውና በስብከተ ወንጌል ኮሚቴ አባላቱ ርምጃ በምእመናን ፊት ከዐውደ ምሕረት እንዲባረር ተደርጓል “ቁጭ ብለህ ተማር አልያ ውጣ” የተባለው በጋሻው በቤተ ክርስቲያኗ ቅጽር ላይ ቆሞም የአዞ እንባውን ረጭቶ ወደመጣበት ተመልሷል ለሰኔ 12 የቅዱስ ሚካኤል ክብረ በዓል ወደ ክብረ መንግሥት ሲያመራም አለታወንዶ ላይ በፖሊስ ተይዞ እንዲመለስ ተደርጓል ለጉባኤው ማስታወቂያ ይሆን ዘንድ ከተማው በቅስቀሳ “እንዲቀወጥ” የመከረበት የድምፅ ማስረጃም ለደጀ ሰላም ደርሷል፡፡ ከዚህ በኋላ ነበር የማያርመው በጋሻው ከሁለት ዓመታት ባላነሰ ከፈነጨበት ከደብረ ናዝሬት ቅዱስ ዮሴፍ ቤተ ክርስቲያን ዐውደ ምሕረት የታገደው፡፡ ከሰሞኑም ከእነ ትዝታው ሳሙኤልና ተረፈ አበራ ጋራ “ርስታችን ነው፤ ማኅበሩን ነቅለን አባረንበታል፤ ጽ/ቤቱን አዘግተነዋል” በሚል ለመበጥበጥ ካቀዱበት ዲላ ጻድቁ አቡነ ገብረ መንፈስ ቅዱስ ቤተ ክርስቲያን በምእመናኑ ተቃውሞ የተነሣ በፖሊስ ተይዘው እስከ ሌሊቱ አምስት ድረስ በቁጥጥር ሥር እንደ ቆዩ ተዘግቧል፡፡

“ቅድስት ማርያም የስብከተ ወንጌል ማስፋፊያ ማኅበር” በሚል ራሱን የሚጠራው ቡድን ሰብሳቢ ፍጹም ታደሰ በአዲስ አበባ ደብረ ጽጌ ቅዱስ ዑራኤል ሰንበት ት/ቤት ከነበረው የሰንበት ት/ቤት መምህርነት በሰንበት ት/ቤቱና የስብከተ ወንጌል ክፍል አባላቱ ተቃውሞ ከመድረክ ታዶ በመቆየቱ በሥራ ገበታው ላይ እንዳልተገኘ በቁጥር 979/14/2003 በቀን 27/10/2003 ዓ.ም በደብሩ አስተዳደር የተጻፈለት ደብዳቤ ያመለክታል፡፡ ግለሰቡ ቀደም ሲል ከእነ አሸናፊ ገብረ ማርያም ጋራ በመሆን በባሌ ሀገረ ስብከት ሰንበት ት/ቤቶችን በማወክ ጽ/ቤቶቻቸውን እስከማዘጋት መድረሱ ተጠቁሟል፡፡ በቅድስት ሥላሴ መንፈሳዊ ኮሌጅ በነበረበት ወቅት የዜና አበው /ፓትሮሎጂ/ መምህር የነበሩት ዶ/ር ፓኒከርም ክፋቱን በማየት “ፍጹም ሰይጣን” በማለት ይጠሩት እንደነበር አንድ የኮሌጁ ደቀ መዝሙር ያስታውሳል፡፡

በተያያዘ ዜና አሰግድ ሣህሉ በሰንበት ት/ቤቶች ማደራጃ መምሪያ የአባ ሰረቀ ረዳት፣ በጋሻው ደሳለኝና መሰሎቹ በስብከተ ወንጌልና ሐዋርያዊ ተልእኮ መምሪያ ሥር በተዘዋዋሪ ሰባኪነት ለመቀጠር አቅርበውታል የተባለው ማመልከቻ በተጠቀሱት የጠቅላይ ቤተ ክህነቱ ሠራተኞችና የማኔጅመንት አባላት ከፍተኛ ተቃውሞ እየገጠመው ነው፡፡ ከትንት በስቲያ የሰንበት ት/ቤቶች ማደራጃ መምሪያ አምስት የማኔጅመንት አባላት በጉዳዩ ዙሪያ ውይይት እንዳደረጉ የተዘገበ ሲሆን ከዋና ሓላፊው አባ ሰረቀና ከምክትላቸው ውጭ ሌሎቹ ጠንካራ ተቃውሞ ማሰማታቸው ታውቋል፡፡ የጠቅላይ ቤተ ክህነቱ ዋና ሥራ አስኪያጅ ብፁዕ አቡነ ፊልጶስ ማመልከቻውን እንደማይቀበሉ ቢያስታውቁም ፓትርያኩ በትንትና ዕለት በአባላቱ አለመሟላት ሳይካሄድ በቀረው የቋሚ ሲኖዶስ ስብሰባ ጉዳዩን አጀንዳ ለማድረግ አቅደው እንደነበር ተዘግቧል፡፡ የአቡነ ጳውሎስ ቤተ ዘመዶች ሳይቀር ተቃውሟቸውንና ምክራቸውን ለፓትርያኩ አቅርበውበታል የተባለው የሕገ ወጦቹ ማመልከቻ የፀረ ተሐድሶው እንቅስቃሴ ያነሣሣውን የምእመኑን ቁጣ ሊያባብሰው እንደሚችል እየተነገረ ነው፡፡ 

31 comments:

benyam said...

I don't know what you guys are after. You don't look like you are very concerned about our church. You look like you have deep seated hatred to these guys who you call tehadisos. You just don't like them or are very jealous of the attention they are getting.

Anonymous said...

amelaka geyorgese yeradanale meemanane enebareta

Anonymous said...

Enzih sewochen lemekitere yetenesaw buden erasu chiger yalebet yimesilegnal. Silzih mimenane enbereta, betselote egiziabeheren enteyikew, eresum yirdan. Enbachew yewushetena genzebe silkerebachew new ena yitasebibet.

Athnatius said...

amazing.

Tewahedo said...

ሰላም ወገኖች:

አንዳንዴ ትክክል ለመሆናችሁ እርግጠኞች ብትሆኑ ጥሩ ነው:: ልጆቹ በመጀመሪያ የሃይማኖት ችግር እንዳለባቸው በምን እርግጠኞች ነበራችሁ? እርግጠኞች ከሆናችሁስ አሁን ልቅሷቸው የአዞ እንባ ነው ለማለት እንዴት ደፈራችሁ? ሰው ሊመለስ ሊስተካከል አይችልም ብላችሁ ለመናገር እንዴተ እርግጠኞች መሆን እንችላለን? እኔ እስከሚገባኝ ድረስ እስካሁን ያስነበባችሁን ጽሁፎችና መረጃዎች ውስጥ የበጋሻውና ሌሎችን ኑፋቄ ወይም ከቤተ ክርስቲያን የወጣ ነገር አላየሁም:: በአንጻሩ በጋሻው ተሳዳቢ መሆኑን ግን ተረድቻለሁ::

እኔ ቤተ ክርስቲያንን የምንጠቅም መስሎን ከእግዚአብሄር ጋር እንዳንጣላ ለማለት ነው::

ቀሲስ አሽናፊና ምርትነ have best songs in the history of Modern Ethiopian Orthodox. Very spritual, touching and faithful with good melody. I don't know why you guys don't like it.

As far as Mahibre kidusan's song department they are not church's songs because they call Jesus. Does it give sense? No we as christians have to call Jesus every time because his name has power of healing and love.

Please let us identify what to blame and what to say to our brothers.

Temelkach said...

Benyam:

To answer your question: There is nothing wrong with us (Tewahido). But each and everything is wrong in Tehadiso.

Listen:
What we are saying here is simply asking these people to mind there own business and stay out of our church and society!! They come to us and created problems. They better stop it before it gets worse.
It may get ugly!! Please stop it. And you Ben you can go and symputhize with these people, it is your choice but don't put this nonesense in dejes elam. Understand???????

benyam said...

Ben
Temelkach:

LISTEN!!! I have been reading dejeselam for a long time and I liked many of their writings. But on this topic they are distorting so many FACTS. If they really believe what they are saying, they can present every detailed account of what is happening. I have researched what dejeselam bloggers do. They take every word, that is spoken by Begashaw or others, OUT-OF-CONTEXT. This is a very popular method of distorting facts here in the American news media(like fox news). They select or cut few words from a two hours speech and make you say what they want. Truth doesn't need any label or any fancy opinion. FACTS are FACTS!! PLEASE DEJESELAM just present FACTS!! Don't be opinionated so much. And one more thing STOP calling people Tehadiso for challenging your opinion! I'm quit tired of that.

Anonymous said...

Benyam: do u think MK is concerned abt attention or jeolus? U r very very far away from z concept of sprituality. U better take religion 101 or ask someone who knows better. U looklike begashaw's jele.

Anonymous said...

Until this moment, I have never heard any PAPAS or member of Synod or LIKAWUNT GUBAE member publicly announcing that those preachers are real TEHADSOS. Unless there is evil motivation or some unknown agenda, i still do not believe we have strong evidence to accuse the KEHEDET. Even let us assume that they are, as real TEWAHDO forefathers taught us, we will not let them go easily. We pray for them, we teach them (alone, with with witness, and BEGUBAE), if they do not accept that we will cry for them and let them go. Remember we are brothers and sisters in christ. I hope you wouldn't not do that to your own fleshly brother. My point is show as the evidence, give them a chance to state what they belive, if so let the right person make the call (Synod). If these people are innocent, we are fighting the will of GOD and breaking one of his commandment "DO NO BE A FALSE WITNESS). MY GOD GIVE US WISDOM and MASTEWAL

Anonymous said...

Temelkach

you wrote
"What we are saying here is simply asking these people to mind there own business and stay out of our church and society"
who are you in the first place to say "stay out of our church and society". I do not think these words will come from a good christian at all. Do you know that our church is like a mother and we have equal right. If you are not a member of synod or a person with the highest authority, you are nothing and have no right to say what you have said. I know you have MENFESAWI KINAT but it has to be supported by the word of GOD. I agree with Benyam that "You just don't like them or are very jealous of the attention they are getting"

PEACE

Anonymous said...

After I listened his interview on Youtube, I put the following comment one week ago.

"እባካችውን ወንድሞች አይናቹን ጨፍኑና ላሞኛቹ አትበሉን። እውነተኛው ጌታ ኢየሱስ፤ ሰዎችን አታሎ በመስበክ የሚከብር አይደለምና። እኔ ለወንድሜ ለመምህር በጋሻው ትልቅ አክብሮት ያለኝ ነበርኩ ፤ "..ተሃድሶ የለም .." የሚል ቃል ግን ከአንደበቱ ስሰማ በጣም ነው ያዘንኩት ምክንያቱም እኔ ከተሃድሶ አራማጆች ኮርስ ወስጃለው። እነርሱም በዚያን ጊዜ ተሃድሶ የሚባል የለም ይሉ ነበር። ከአገሬ ከወጣው በዋላ እንኳን በፕሮቴስታን ቤ/ክ ወስጥ ለተሃድሶ ተልእኮ ሲጸለይና እርዳታ ሲጠየቅ ፤ ኦርቶዶክስ ከእስማኤላዊያን ጋር ተድምሮ ሲወገዝ አይቻለው። የተሃድሶ የመጨረሻ ግብ የወነው የምእራቡን አለም "ክርስትና" ውጤት አሁን በአይኔ እያየዉት ነው። ምእራቡ አለም በወንጌል እንደተሞላ ተደርጎ የተነገርን ...የሰዶም ተግባር ህጋዊ ሆኖ በየእስተቱ እየተስፋፋ.. እውቀት በማጣት እንጥፋ"

With Love

ተዋህዶ said...

ሰላም ወገኖች ትክክለኞቹ ተሃድሶዎች አባ ሰላማ ዌብ ሳይት ላይ የሚጽፉት ናቸው:: በቤተ ክርስቲያን ላይ የተነሱ መርዞችና እርጉማን ናቸው::

ቤተ ክርስቲያን ውስጥ ያሉ አንዳንድ ስህተቶች እንዲስተካከሉ አስተያየት የሚሰጡትን ተሃድሶዎች አትበሉ:: የሃይማኖትና የቀኖና ችግር ከሌለባቸው በቀር:: አባ ሰላማዎች ግን ለቤተ ክርስቲያን የቆሙና ተቆርቋሪ መስለው ቤተ ክርስቲያንን አሳልፈው የሚሰጡ ጸረ ኦርቶዶክስ ተዋህዶዎች ናቸው:: እኔ እንደተረዳሁት እነዚህ አሁን ተሃድሶ የምትሏቸውና ትክክለኛ ተሃድሶዎች ይለያሉ::

በትክክል ለቤተ ክርስቲያን እድገትና ያለ ንውጽጽታ እንትኖር የምንፈልግ ከሆነ አንዳንድ ጥያቄ የሚያስነሱ የቤተ ክርስቲያን ጽሁፎችም እንዲታረሙ ሲኖዶስን እናበረታታ:: አለበለዚያ አሁም እንደምናየው ያልተማሩና ያልጠነከሩ ኦርቶዶክሳዊያን የመናፍቃን ሲሳይ መሆናቸው አይቀርም::

Anonymous said...

Begashaw and his friends arent Tehadiso But aspires of becoming wealthy in the name of the Church.

They are one whom Jesus has come to save. Please lets give them the way to be in life but away from servise atleast for some years where they got to learn all their wrong doings.

We have so many of that type people in the church except they get control of the business all over.

Anonymous said...

My people, please see things criticaly. I am one of your brother who live in Addis Ababa. We know so many wrong things that Begashaw and his fellow have done on our church. He concidered himself as if he is the only person to the church. He acuses the true fathers, inistigate antagonizm, run for money and breach dogmas' of the church. He is not good example in his life even if that is his own personal issue and judged by God. He jhas no consisten answer for question raised related to his preaching which breach "Mistere Selassie". He preach for money. Please bother for the church if you truely belong to Tewahido. They speach the same languege as protestant. Let me tel you one of my office friend who is a protestant said to me. "Mahibere Kidusan is rigid and sticked to the church. They are not god for the church and our sebsequent unity." He added, 'look the new preachers and singers are very nice." Let me add more, an other protestant said " the time has come and we will song together. There are many who is working in your church". My people let me add more if you don't mind. My relative who has high post in the church is Tehadiso. I know what he has done and is doing but he is sill in the church.Let us be strong. It is God who can heal the problem but let us put our share. Some are defending Tehadiso. It may be due to two reason. One purposely to confuse the people. Second reason could be misunderstanding. I didnt have any knowledge about Mehibere Kidusan and my proximity was to Begashaw and his fellow. But now I know them all. I personaly concluded that Mahibere Kidusan is the one for the church. Let God protect our church and preyers of our true fathers save us.

Wolde Tensae said...

Dear all,
I saw some people writing about the good sides of Begashaw and his colleagues. I am one of the chrsitans around Awassa who know much about Begasgaw and yared who were disturbing the church in Awassa zuria. We heard their insults against the elderly people for no reason. They always wanted to take the people to big halls, stadium, adebabay, etc to collect money as a pretext for collecting more people in stead of keeping the young people in the peripheries of kidist betechristian. We have seen and heard a lot of things from them some of which ar worthless to tell here. It is not a matter of siding mahibere Kidusan or Begashaw. It is rather a matter of saving our church. I still believe that Begashaw and his fellow should be advised and make really confession. But they should immediately quit preaching and singing until they should sit down infront of the church intellectuals and learn enough about christianity. Christianity is much explained in practice, not in words. They painfully missed Chiristian practice. I still pray for them until they get the wisdom of God to be good examples in good parctices. Donot worry much about few individuals, but about the church (congregations-mass. Egziabher amlak kekidist enatu gara betechristianin yitebikilin, Amen

Anonymous said...

I wonder why MK should not allow (arrange/encourage) its members to author Songs, I mean songs of a single man or woman, instead of in groups - to replace the crap digigimosh-type songs by these tehadsos????????? Songs having a Tewahido-leza[like Yilma's, Martha's, Kinetibebs etc] should be vastly available for us, to discard the out-of-tradition songs by these businessmen. I fear, the people want to hear new songs every time new AmetBal comes. Why don't you raise this issue, DejeSelam?

tinaswt said...

ሰላም ውድ የደጀሰላም አዘጋጆች! የምታደርሱን ወቅታዊ ጉዳዮች ጥሩ ናቸው ነገር ግን በእነበጋሻው ላይ እየቀረበባቸው ያለው ክስ ትንሽ አጠራጣሪ ሳይሆን አይቀርም:: ማለት በቅርቡ ትዝታው በለቀቀው መዝሙር ላይ ስለተወዋህዶ ዘምሮ ነበር እውነት የተዋህዶ ጠላቶች ቢሆኑ ኖሮ ለምን ስለተወህዶ ይዘምሩ ነበር? ደግሞስ ተሀድሶ ስለመሆናቸው ምን ማረጋገጫ አለ?

Anonymous said...

ቤተ ክርስቲያንዋን ሳታውቁዋት ዝም ብላችሁ የምትቀባጥሩ ሰዎች ያቃጥላችሁና አቃጠላችሁኝ የሀይማኖት ችግር ከሌለባችሁ እባካችሁ ምትናገሩትን እየጠየቃችሁ ተናገሩ ስለቤትክርስቲያናችሁ መቆርቆር ይሻላል ወይስ ምን እንደሚያስቡ እንኩዋን ስለማይታወቁ ሰዎች መከራከር? ሰይጣን አለምን መልኩዋን አንድ በማድርግ ለወደፊቱ /ለአውሬው/ ዘመን መንገድ በመጥረግ ላይ ነውና ለዚህም የተለየ ባህል፣ ታሪክ፣ ሀይማኖት ስለሚጠላ አለምን በሙሉ ፕሮቴስታንት እያረገ ነውና እባካችሁ አይናችሁን ግለጹ ስለማንም መሀይም ክርክሩን ትታችሁ የቤትክርስቲያናችሁ እምነትና ስርአት ይቆርቁራችሁ የግለሰብ ቲፎዞ መሆን አለመብሰልን ያሳያል፡ ሰባኪ የለ ዲያቆን የለ ቄስ ሁሉም ከቤትክርስትያን ስርአት በታች ነውና ለስርአት ከተገዙ ይገዙ!!!ቤተክርስቲያንዋ የእምነት፣ የእውቀት፣ የትህትና ግምጃ ቤት ናትና ለሌለው ትሰጣለች ላነሰው ትጨምራለች እንጂ ከዚህ ውጪ የሆነ ማንም አልመከር ያለ ሁላ እምቡዋ ከረዩ የሚልባት አይደለችም የሰማይ ደጅ ነች እኮ እናንተ አውደምህረቱ እኮ ጌታ የባረከው ሐዋርያት የሰበኩበት እን ቅዱስ እስጢፋኖስ ሰማይ ተከፎቶ የጌታን ክብር ያዩበት እውነት በመመስከራቸው በድንጋይ የተወገሩበት የእምነት፣ የእውቀት፣ የትህትና ባለጸጎች የሆኑ ብዙዎች ሊቃውንት አባቶች በትህትና የቆሙበት፣ የሚቆሙበት አውደ ምህረት ነውና ከብራችንም ነውና ለክብራችን እንቆርቆር አውደምህረታችንን አናስድፈር አይናችንን ከሰዎች ላይ እናንሳና መስቀሉን ትኩር ብለን እንይ። ምዋቹ ታላቁ ሰው ባለቅኔና ገጣሚ የሀገር ሀብት ጸጋዬ ገ/መድህን እንኩዋን ባልተቡ ብእሮች፣ ባልበቁ የመድረክ ሰዎች ኪነጥበብ ለጥቅምና፣ ለስሜት ስትደፈር ቢያይ ''መትፋት ያስነውራል'' የሚል ግሩም ግጥም ጽፎ ነበር። እባካችሁ አውደምህረቱ ሲደፈር ይቆርቁረን ለቤትክርስቲያነ እናድላ። ካጠፋው ይቅርታ።

Anonymous said...

Does anybody know what Begashaw was doing in Dila before he became famous? I have a freind from Dila and he told me that Begashaw was such a thug in the town. He is such a lazy student and was a master on insulting the teachers at their high school. He also told me that he was a reason for one indian teacher resignation. He told me he was not close to a church until Aba Amha eyesus came to Dila Abo church. And he afraid he might not be a Deacon too. So please guys from Dila give us enough info about him and let save our church from robbers. I don't think he is a tehadiso but I do think that he might be one in the future for money. B/c he is after money. If there is more money there, he is going to be one of them for sure.

Anonymous said...

"kedimo neber enji metino medekos ahun min yadergal dist tido malkes "ale yagera sew,kedimowenu astewilachihu bitramedu yih hulu balhone neber.ahunis gin minew enbachihun lekamera kemitafesu lenisha bitadergut???yikerta meteyek endih yikebdal???daru yikerta yechirstian giberu new enante keyet tametut...

Anonymous said...

I asked you to show to the world what "kehdet" these preachers are accused of and the fact to support it. It is laughable that some of you wrote like this "one of my office friend who is a protestant said to me...look the new preachers and singers are very nice." an other protestant said " the time has come and we will song together".

It is funny that the people we hate the most "protestant" now are our best witnesses to accuse Begashaw and his friends. How come, don't you remeber that we accuse them as false christians who believe false teachings. How we take their words to accuse our brothers and sister. What if they have hidden agenda to divide us. The most disturbing quote is this
"My people let me add more if you don't mind. My relative who has high post in the church is Tehadiso".

Who is this relative who has high post in the church. If you really love your church you should speak the truth to the world who that person is. You should clean your house first before looking at others. This is double standard. I still do not believe the accused brothers and sisters are against the church. What I see is most of you are against them. This has been the truth since the start of christianity. Truth does not have many friends.

ሰላም ተዋሕዶ Selam - Tewahedo said...

Please, Share this Vedio clip about the supportive testimony of Tehadiso presented by Dn Andualem of Dallas.

www.selam-tewahedo.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

My friend, the protestant friend in my office always try to snatch me. There are many story b/n these protestant friend and me. They always preach me to take to them. The point I raised above are some of the reasons they gave to me either to join them or at least to support Begashaw and his fellow.This is not just accuse them on the mere fact that I dislike them. Why for? It would have been my pleasure if they stay with church and every chiristian also believe that way. By the way, many people may have such an incidence but atleast I know some friends who have similar story. I am living with protestant friend in peace. They always tel me theirs and I tell them mines. When we reach some conclusion and disagree; we usually stop the discussion. By the way, they are the one who take the lead and raise discussion point. I saw them many times. They cantn't accept yours even if you have enough evidence and quotes from the bible. At such point (when you have conviencing evidence), they shift the issue to other new area. This is my experience. If you are concerned about your church see things criticaly. Do you know our fathers hamblness? Do you see some of our true fathers life? do you know the church's way of song and preaching? Do you know any time in chirstian history that preachers refuse to preach unless money paid? Do you know any true preacher when accused give inconsistent answer to decieve the people? Do you think that they will be good example to the belivers as the bible said? Do you heared or see what they preach at Gishen Debrekerbe about sirate bethekrstian?" Do you know how protestant love them truely and proud of them since they changed the church's "sirate"? Do you know that Bwegashaw copy and wrote the book " yemeskelu sire kumartegnoch" from protestant's paster preaching casset? Do you remember that Begashaw wrote this book about Abune Paulos and now he is advocater to Abune Paulos? What did he get to make such a paradiem shift with in a very short time? That book assist him to get popular. My friend, before you side just get many information and evaluate the issue with the pilar "Dogima and sirate Bethekristian". Then decide. That will be your choice. This is given from God not from any man or woman. That is your choice; either to chose water or fire and to recieve the prise or pay the price. My friend above, I am very happy to discuss personaly if you fill happy. Please, let us get closer and see our church first.

Anonymous said...

እኔ አጭርና ግልጽ የሆነ አንድ ሃሳብ መናገር እፈልጋለሁ፡፡ ይሄውም እነ በጋሻው ስህተት ቢኖራቸውም በአንድ ወቅት መጠነኛ አገልግሎት ሰጥተዋል፡፡ ሙልጭ ያለ ጥፋት ብቻ ሰርተዋል ለማለት ያስቸግራል፡፡ ይሁንና አሁን ችግር አለባችሁ ሲባሉ እስኪ እዩን ቁጭ ብለን እንማር ከዚች ቤተ ክርስቲያን ደጅ በጭራሽ አንጠፋም ማለት ለምን ከብዷቸው ነው ለስማቸው ክብር በመጨነቅ ክርክርና ውጣውረድ የሚፈጥሩትና ህዝቡን የሚያወናብዱት፡፡ አለማጥፋታቸውን እኮ ምዕመናኑ በተረጋጋ ሁኔታ ለመዳኘት የሚችለው የተነሳውን ተቃውሞ በተግባራቸው እንዳልሆኑ በማሳየት እንጂ እኔ ከመድረክ አልወርድም እወርዳለሁ በማለት በመከራከር አይደለም፡፡ ይሄን ክርክራቸውን ከገፉበት ከሚሰጡት አገልግሎት የሚያገኙት አንድም እንደ ገቢ ምንጭ ልዩ ስጋዊ ጥቅም አላቸው ወይም እንደተባለው ቤተክርስቲያኗን ለመረበሽ የታቀደው የመናፍቃን ወገኖች ናቸው፡፡ ምክንያቱም እነሱ ባያገለግሉ በዚህ ዘመን የቤተ ክርስቲያን አውደ ምህረት ጦም አይውልም፡፡ እንዲያውም ብዙ አባቶች ከጩኸትና ግርግር በፀዳ መልኩ ወንጌልን መስበክ የሚችሉበት መንገድ ይሆን ነበር፡፡ ስለዚህ ይሄ የሰይጣን ፈተና ነው ስብከተ ወንጌልን የማደናቀፍ ተግባር ነው በሚል ደካማ ሃሳብ ከአውደ ምህረት አልሄድም እሄዳለሁ ማለት ተገቢ አይደለም፡፡ እናንተ ባታገለግሉ አገልግሎቱ እንደማይቋረት ተገንዘቡ እራሳችሁን አትኮፍሱ፡፡ ሁለታችሁም ወገኖች በምታሳትሙት ቪሲዲ ገበያችሁን አታጧጡፉ፡፡ ድሮ የነገዳችሁት ይበቃችኋል፡፡

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Anonymous said...

Anonymous, I thank you for your reply and suggestions. This is what you've asked me to think critically. I quote "If you are concerned about your church see things criticaly. Do you know our fathers hamblness? Do you see some of our true fathers life? do you know the church's way of song and preaching? Do you know any time in chirstian history that preachers refuse to preach unless money paid? Do you know any true preacher when accused give inconsistent answer to decieve the people? Do you think that they will be good example to the belivers as the bible said? Do you heared or see what they preach at Gishen Debrekerbe about sirate bethekrstian?" Do you know how protestant love them truely and proud of them since they changed the church's "sirate"? Do you know that Bwegashaw copy and wrote the book " yemeskelu sire kumartegnoch" from protestant's paster preaching casset? Do you remember that Begashaw wrote this book about Abune Paulos and now he is advocater to Abune Paulos? What did he get to make such a paradiem shift with in a very short time? That book assist him to get popular. My friend, before you side just get many information and evaluate the issue with the pilar "Dogima and sirate Bethekristian". Then decide. That will be your choice".

I see fear in you. What you listed above is nothing but fear. If they are true some of them are "deed" YEMIGBAR problems. It does not raise to the label of KIHIDET Our forEfathers st. Atnateows, st. Yohannnes Afework, and 318 LIKAWINT and the rest of KIDUSAN ABEW tought us how to defend our church. By studying the word of God and the teaching of the church "DOGMA AND KENONA". Now tell me from your listings above, which one is Dogma and Kenona. For example how do you categorize this "Do you remember that Begashaw wrote this book about Abune Paulos and now he is advocater to Abune Paulos".

Lets look at another one "Do you know that Bwegashaw copy and wrote the book " yemeskelu sire kumartegnoch" from protestant's paster preaching casset?" is this DOGMA OR KENONA.

And you said "Do you know how protestant love them truely and proud of them since they changed the church's "sirate"?". So if a bunch of your protestant freinds said that they loved Begashaw, then he automatically broke DOGAMA and Kenona. My friend do not be folish they are very smart in doing this. whenever protestant see that some one in our church raise up to the level of good preacher of the word of God, they become jeoulos, because they will not get new customers (memenan)(i belive 90 % their members came at least once for their true baptism at 40th and 80th days to our lovely church) and we let them go. So what they have to do is declare that they love those preachers then will accuse them, beat them like snakes and dogs and cast them out of the church, the they will get more people with them. This has been their tactic for so long and it is working for them. Keep up the good work.
They love it and doing it again and again.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for reply and raising more issues for discussion.Actualy, there is nothing I personaly fear. These all are symptom for the hard time that will come.All are written in the bible and those said are being happening. My friend just see some of Begashaw's preaching in the youtube. Do you believe that our church is "arogitua sara"?
Do you believe our church doesn't preach Jesus Christ? Do you belive Baegashaw, Tizetaw, etc are the only for the Church as they said? "Begashaw endalew kehaya amet befit abekalat beka tebila neber ende? Is it now saved by Begashaw and his fellow since they born from sara,'our old church'? Do you remeber what those "Tehadiso Menekosat" said when they join the protestant? Do you know how some were crying as if they were accused with no evidence and latter openly join the protestant church? Please, my friend, just try to know the tactic they are using? There is a big mission behind, to attack our Church.By the way, I just randomly put my points with out clasifying Dogma and Kenona. You may know what Dogma and Kenona are. Just see all and evaluate for your self.

Related to one of your points;I am not that much fulish or a machine to accept what protestant are saying as it is. We have the mind to evaluate alegations and corrolet with facts. Let me raise one of my point again what protestant friend said about Mahibere Kidusan. "Mahibere Kidusan is rigid and sticked to the church rule." Is this statment true or false? To me, this is true. My friend,I was first defending Begashaw & fellow and I had proximity to them. But, I weaked up latter. I understand that every people have the right to support what he felt right. What is your strong point to support Begashaw and fellow? There are so many preachers like Dn Zelalem and many others before Begashaw came.

Jesus said "they will come in My name" and many came in His name and more will come. Don't you know that Begashaw collcted much money for himself in God's name from the poor? Don't you think that this is a big crime and deception? The bible warn us how we should be cautious. It says "you know from their fruit?" I am very little boy to defend for the church. Our true fathers, who are full of wisdom will teach us if we approach them.
Let God protect all of us from evil.

Anonymous said...

Any body who is deceptive can not be from God. God will not be praised by deception and personal motive. Such people should first confess and learn the church's teaching. Any one who is orater can be a preacher but all may (could) not be chirstain. We have so many evidence in which the people have been decieved by Bahitawian and such people.

Degagimen endantalele, Metenkek yasfeligal.

Anonymous said...

Again I thank you for your honest comment. I am sorry if I offend you by saying "do not be foolish". I wanted all of us to see things in 3D (every direction). If you do not mind I would like to comment on two things.
you said "Do you believe that our church is "arogitua sara"?" I strongly believe that to be characterized as one of the holiest saint woman "SARA" THE MOTHER OF ALL NATION", who God shown his miracle to the world, who received TRINITY at her house, The wife of ABRAHAM "WHO GOD LOVES SO MUCH AND LIKES TO BE CALLED "GOD OF ABARAHAM"......is a blessing. In no other ways this can be interpreted. I think the person who used this as an example is trying to use it as "SEMNA WORK' OR "HEBER" OR DOUBLE MEANING. What it means is, as I understood it" protestants or other religious group who left our church believe that the church is old and can not produce "true christians". What the preacher meant to say, as i understood", the promise of God with our fathers is with the church. Even though it is the oldest church, since God is with her forever, she still gives birth to "YESEHAK" we, her children. But in no way it will be interpreted as an insult. If we think like that we are reducing the ST. SARA'S 'KIBER'. She is the highest, she spoke with trinity "kal bekal" again, it is a blessing to be called Sara

you've asked
"Do you believe our church doesn't preach Jesus Christ?" i stronlgy believe our church preach the LORD JESUS CHRIST. Even no one preach the bible,no preacher is available

Y GULELAT MESKEL
YEABATOCH MESKEL
GENA (THE BIRTH JESUS CHRIST)
TIMKET
ABIY TSOM
SIKLET
TENSAE
ERGET
PERAKLITOS
ethiopian calendar
(amete miheret)....and so on

SPEAKS ABOUT HIM.

Anonymous said...

The above anonymous: don't you bother abaout Sirate Betechrstian? They first demolish Sirate Betechrstain and then Dogma. Do you belive that they should continue teaching and songing with their problem. They are moving out from Sirate Betchrstain. Should we allow them to continue. Senodosu endaysebku ena endayzemiru wosinual. Lemne lewusaniew ayigezum? Lemne kuch blew aytseliyume?

God save us.

Anonymous said...

The Anonymous who asked me 'don't you bother abaout Sirate Betechrstian?". I really do not like "trap questions". I like to answer specifically. Be specific, as you know "Sirate Betechrstian" as you wrote it is too broad. Are you talking about TSOM, TSELOT, MEZMUR, INSTRUMENTS, ALEBABES,...In General "Serat is serat and must be respected, unless it is modified or changed. When I say modifed or changed, I expected that you know Sirate Betechrstian can be changed, by synodos. But I still do not believe that if one breaks serate betechristian should be out of the church. It is not "dogma" time and education should be given to that person. His NEFS (SOUL)is more valuable.

Anonymous said...

Thank you again my brother. I am not offended and I am happy to see your logical analysis. I believe we understand each other. Both of us are concerned about our church.Let me quote your saying.
"I strongly believe that to be characterized as one of the holiest saint woman "SARA" THE MOTHER OF ALL NATION", who God shown his miracle to the world, who received TRINITY at her house, The wife of ABRAHAM "WHO GOD LOVES SO MUCH AND LIKES TO BE CALLED "GOD OF ABARAHAM"......is a blessing."

Yes, this is the teaching of our church since a long time a go and I strongly agree on what you write. It is a blessing to be the Son of Sara and we are her sons. But, the meaning (quonotation) by Tehadiso Menekosat or other Tehadiso who are not yet publicly speach out themselves is totaly different. They are insulting the church as if it is oldish and useless. They are striving to change the church's value.They gave meaning that Tewahido is oldish which need to be changed. This is not doutable. You may see what Tehadiso Menekosat said when they join the protestan.

I believe, we rather need to be chenaged not the church. The church has evrything but I(we) have nothing. The problem arise there.

God bless all of us and the prayers of the saints protect us.

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