March 25, 2010

“የመስቀሉ ሥር ቁማርተኞች” ጉዳይ:- ከአንድ ሺህ ቃላት አንድ ፎቶ

(ደጀ ሰላም፤ ማርች 22/2010)፦ “አርማጌዶን”ን ተከትሎ በተከፈተው ውይይት አሁንም ኢትዮጵያ ውስጥ የሚታተሙ የተለያዩ መጽሔቶች ስለ ሁለቱም ወገን እያስነበቡን ነው፡፡ ከኢትዮጵያ ውጪ ለምትገኙ ደጀ-ሰላማውያን በማለት እነዚህኑ መጽሔቶች እዚህ ማቅረባችንን እንቀጥላለን።

30 comments:

Mahedere said...

I can't believe a "credible Orthodox Tewahedo Blog" publicising Ye Pente Sebket and Ye Pente Sebaki just to score points on Dkn. Begashaw. I never heard of Pastor Melese Wegu or his sebkets. Thanks for you, you did such a good job in introducing him to us, Ye Tewahedo lijoch. As there may be many valid points to questions the way Dkn. Begashaw is going, I don't think taking sides or getting into "unchartered teritory" is one of them.
Cher Yaqoyen,
M Mariam

March 25, 2010

west awaki said...

ohhhhhh wat the bad news is he penete,,,,realy besew nefe meqeled besemaye bate yaseqetal ,,,tel him pls this is not investement this is religion d.begashaw pls be ur self

Anonymous said...

It is very hard to judge someone by only one point.the truth will reveal one day by it self. he uses the same article doesn't mean he might be too. but the main point is we don't stand by his side becase he is a good preacher, we don't know what is he oing after he left the stage. we are leaving for our church and with our church not for a single person ever.
But deje selam this kind of issue doesn't give us any thing, so work on generalized ideas regarding our church not on one person. a single person can put his hands or choose either the water or fire.

Anonymous said...

It is very hard to judge someone by only one point.the truth will reveal one day by it self. he uses the same article doesn't mean he might be too. but the main point is we don't stand by his side becase he is a good preacher, we don't know what is he oing after he left the stage. we are leaving for our church and with our church not for a single person ever.
But deje selam this kind of issue doesn't give us any thing, so work on generalized ideas regarding our church not on one person. a single person can put his hands or choose either the water or fire.

Anonymous said...

oh my god .! why you p/p are so anti orthodox this is one of "mehaber kidusan " work .thank you for your pente sebekt and your pente sebaki I love Dkn Begashw I hate you and your mehber

aychalehu said...

አሁን ገና ሳይዳቹ ታወቀ!!! ይህን ጉዳይ ስታቀርቡት ነጻ ሆናችሁ ልታወያዩ መስሎን ነበር:: ግን አልሆነም:: ዓላማችሁ ከዘመድኩን ጋር በመወገን ዲ.በጋሻውን አታክ ለማድረግ ይሆን? how better r u then from other pages?

Anonymous said...

we all know from the start in which way Dn. Begashaw is going using odd phrases in preaching and assuming that every hinderances and progresses in our church is because of today's "sebakian", is not our church Truth.any one who witness the neglected way of our father's teaching obviously will have doubt and that's why we all afraid where this kind of singing and teaching is going. however, i personally like the older posts and interviews to make an argument than this pic. if one preacher uses a title saying "mane tekel fares" and teaches, we can't conclude that zebene is out of our church teaching. title don't make arguement. Besides DejeSelam, this will also makes specially you taking sides and conclusions on earlier stage. though i'm your no. 1 fan.

Anonymous said...

እናንተ ሰዎች በቃ የናንተ አባል ያልሆነ ሰው መወገዝ መሰደብ ልምድ ስለሆነ አያስደንቅም ግን እውነተኛው አምላክ ይፍረድ ገንዘብ ስልጣን ካለው ጋር መቆም ያጥፋችው ማህበረ ሰይጣኖች

ሰናይ said...

Dear DS, Wasn't it enough only to mention the sloppines of the book? Aren't you publicizing the enemies?Are out of your mind?Do you know where this goes?You already told us as he copied the title and the content that book from that guy. Why the pictures now?Was there any one who request for these?

By saying this I'm not crediting Dn. Begashaw or any one else.

ማስተዋሉን ያብዛልን!

Anonymous said...

Deje Selam
can you post page 39 of WEQETAWI news peper ,please ?

Anonymous said...

DEJE SELAM
Can you post page 39 of WEKTAWI news paper?

Anonymous said...

pleasee he is not pente! just because the title is the same does not mean the whole sibket is the same, and dejeselam u are not a reporter! u are trying to convince ppl, please be neutral

Anonymous said...

I feel sorry for Deje selam. you claim Dn begashaw is pente just because his book title match with pente sebaki. what arrongant you guys are. God may have mercy on you. you lost your sleep to harm and distroy one christian who try to serve his church with his gift and time. give us one false teaching he has preached. the only acussation you are pointing out is the way is preaching. have you ever thought that what Dn. danial or memhir Zebene or other teachers have not the same preaching style with aleka ayalew or our holy papasat. I will say it again, God have mercy on you Deje selam

Anonymous said...

God have mercy on you deje selam

Tewahedo menekosat said...

እነ ስዩም ያሚ ምእመናንን ያታልሉ የነበሩት ውዳሴ ማርያምን በኪሳቸው ይዘው ያመኗት እያስመሰሉ ነበር እነ መዘምር ስዕለ ማርያም ስር ወድቀው እያለቀሱ ።በኋላ ሲጠየቍ ለአላማ ነበር ያደረግነው ብለዋል ።አሁንም አባቶች ፊት መቅለስለስ ለአላማ እንዳይሆን አባቶች አደራ ።ትህትናና ዲፕሎማሲ ይለይና ይታወቅ።

fasil getaneh said...

pls do not follow the so called begashaw.....just he is a human being like us 'tegitachu tseliyou'

may our lord God be with us

Anonymous said...

ከላይ አስተያየት ስትሰጡ ደጀሰላምን የምትተቹ ሰዎች እኔ ይገርመኛል ፡፡ ደጀሰላም የታተመውን ስካን አድርጎ ለምን አቀረበ ነውን?
ወይስ ሰው ተነካ ነው? መለሰ ወጉን አላውቀውም ለተዋህዶ ልጆች አስተዋወቃችሁን ምናምን መማረር ወ.ዘ.ተ. ዓላማችሁ እኔ አይገባኝም፡፡
የርእስ መመሳሰል አለ ምናምን የሚለው ሁለቱም ሃይማኖቶች በጋራ ከሚጠቀሙበት ከመጽሐፍ ቅዱስ ሲወሰድ ነው፡፡
ይህ ደግሞ መጽሐፍ ቅዱስ ውስጥ የለም፡፡ ቤተ ክርስቲያን እስከዛሬ የመስቀሉ ስር ቁማር የሚል አስተምህሮ ነበራት?
መስቀሉ ስር ቁማርተኛ የሚል ስብከት ከዚህ በፊት ተሰብኮ የሚታወቅ ከሆነ ጥቀሱልን ፡፡
በጋሻውን የምትደግፉ ሁሉ ቢያንስ መልስ እንዲሰጥ ንገሩት ወዝ የሌለው ደረቅ ሙግት ተዉ፡፡
ይኸው ዳንኤል ክብረት መልስ ሰጠ አይደለም እሱም ይስጥ፡፡ በሽፍንፍን ለማለፍ መሞከር ለቤተክርስቲያን ማሰብ አይደለም፡፡
በጋሻውን ሲደግፉ የሚታዩ ሰዎች ሚዛናውያን አይደሉም፡፡ ይሄ ትምህርቱን ያልጨረሰን ....
ከአንድ በርካታ ምሁራንን ከያዘ ማህበር ጋር ማወዳደርና ለግለሰብ ብሎ ማውገዝ በርባን ይፈታልን ካሉት አይሁድ አይለይም፡፡

Anonymous said...

deje selam, yqr ybelachu

Anonymous said...

for the one who said "he did not even finished his schoo..."

Brother dont u know god gives wisdom and knowledge in his own ways?? god gave begashaw what he have in his own ways, school is not the only way, if u have a pro with that then so sorry

Anonymous said...

oh my lord have mercy on our sole . lemen tekasesalachu ? mekses ye dabilos sira inje amlakachin yastemaren aydelm. ye memher begashawon sibkt bemulu adamchewalhu there is nothing worng with them . yegnan melkam neger hulu yepentewoch new eyalachu atisto yerasachen new hulum . they dont have nothing unless ke orthodox kalwesedu beker. guys stop mekases .am sick and tired of you guys . i love my church am proud to be orthodox=and ethiopian but becose of your guys mesakiya mehone anflgm. chigir kalbachu beglachu chersu. haymanotachin mekelejachu ena yegl tilachu mewocha aydelchm ena . stop all this crap

Anonymous said...

god bless you dn begashaw thank to be god for givin us your kind of pricher specially at this time . dejeselamoch why dont you be thank full for having that kind of preacher ensted of pushing dn begashwo and try to throw him out of the chure that he loves so much. ? dn begashwo , me and all my freinds love your teching and we strongly blive you are dear to orthodox church . dont leason to the mahbere irkusnu bad news. do what you got to do . god is with you and he will continu to be with you ,dont late this kind of group destroy your good work for our one and only tewhido church. may god bless you and put his great word on your mouth that you can teach as more .god blesss ethiopia god bless our church

Anonymous said...

FOR THE PERSON WHO COMMENT ABOUT DN. BEGASHAW EDUCATION

BROTHER, WE WON'T TELL DN. BEGASHAW TO ANSWER FOR ALL THIS UNNESSASARY Q. HE IS JOB IS TO PREACH. WE KNOW WHAT YOU WANT. YOU WANT alubalta. PLEASE SPEND TIME READING SPRITUAL BOOKS AND PRAYING. THEN, YOU CAN SEE THE BEGGER PICTURE WHICH IS THE LOVE OF GOD TO US WHEN WE ARE STILL IN DEEP SINFUL LIFE. WHY DON'T SEE YOU BROTHER AS GOD SEE YOU.

አግናጢዎስ ዘጋስጫ said...

አድሱ ታ ምራት
በሃይማኖት ካባ ተሽፍኖ ኖሮ:
ሊቅ ሳይሆን ሊቅ ሆ ኖ ሳይማር ተምሮ
ዓንድ ዓይን ሳይኖረው አራት ዓይና መባል
ለሚያውቀው ያስቃል ለሰሚው ያገርማል
ስሙንስ እንተወ ው ዋጋ አያወጣበትም
ፎቶየ ፈዋሽ ነው ሲል ትንሽ አያፍርም?
እንደ ሃዋርያው እንደ ቅዱስ ጳውሎስ
ጥላየ ፈዋሽ ነው እስከሚለን ድረስ
ሌላስ ምን እንጠብቅ ከመጋቤ ሃድስ
ረቂቅ ነኝ እኔ ልክ እንደመላእክት
ይላል ነገ ደግሞ አድሱ ታማራት::

Anonymous said...

god bless you dn begashaw thank to be god for givin us your kind of pricher specially at this time . dejeselamoch why dont you be thank full for having that kind of preacher ensted of pushing dn begashwo and try to throw him out of the chure that he loves so much. ? dn begashwo , me and all my freinds love your teching and we strongly blive you are dear to orthodox church . dont leason to the mahbere irkusnu bad news. do what you got to do . god is with you and he will continu to be with you ,dont late this kind of group destroy your good work for our one and only tewhido church. may god bless you and put his great word on your mouth that you can teach as more .god blesss ethiopia god bless our church

አሐዱ said...

ጾም ባይሆን ኖሮ አንጀቴን ቅቤ አጠጣኸው እልህ ነበር አግናጢዎስ እውነትም ‹‹አዲሱ ታምራት›› ነገ ደግሞ ላቤን ጥረጉልኝ እደ ክርስቶስ ማሐረባችሁ ላ እታተማለሁ ይለናል ‹‹አይ መጋቤ ሐዲስ›› ሰው እንዴት ሳይማር መጋቤ ሐዲስ ይባላል የሰጠው አካል መቼም አይኑን ጨፍኖ መሆን አለበት እንጂ መቼም አይኑ እያየ እጅ የሌለውን ሰው ምግብ ሰውን መግብ አጉርስ ብሎ አያሰማራውም፡፡ በቅርቡ ምን አደረገ መሰላችህ መጋቢው ሱሉልታ ሥላሴ ቤተክርስቲያን መጋቢት 6 እና 7 በነበረው ጉባኤ ላይ ታደመላችሁና ሕዝቡን በጾም ማስጨብጨብ ልማዱ አይደል ሕዝቡ እልል ቢል ‹‹ተው ተው ደግሞ ታስከስሱናላችሁ›› አለላችኋ አይ መምህር ለካ እግዚአብሔርን ሳይሆን ሚፈራው ልክ እንደ ዘመድኩን በልኩ የሚያሰፉለትን ነው ለካ ‹‹የጥበብ ሁሉ መጀመሪያው እግዚአብሔርን መፍራት ነው›› ይል ነበር መጽሐፉ ‹‹መጋቤው›› ጋር ሲደርስ ዘመድኩንን መፍራት ሆነ እንጂ ለመሆኑ ሐዲስ ኪዳን የተሸከመውን ሁሉ መጋቤ ሐዲስ ካልነው…. እየዞሩ በየሰፈራችን የሚያድሉንን ምን እንበላቸው ሰው እንዴት ነው ነገሩ ግራ ግብት አለኝ እኮ!!! አግናጢዎስ እግዚአብሔር ይስጥህ እውነትም ‹‹አዲሱ ታምራት›› ያልተማረ ወይ በሥጋዊው ትምህርት አልተማረ ወይ በመንፈሳዊው የአቡጊዳ ሽፍታ ለመሆኑ 12ኛ ክፍል ተፈትኗል እንዴ? ‹‹መጋቢው›› ‹‹አባቶችህ የሰሩልሕን ድንበር አታፍርስ›› ዛሬ ምሴተ ሐሙስ ነው ዛሬ ይሁዳ አምላኩን ለ30 ብር ብሎ የሸጠበትን የምናስብበት ሰዓት ነበር ምን እናድርግ ፈርዶብን በጋሻው ወንጌሉን በ2000 ብር፣ በአውሮፕላን ቲኬት፣ በባለ 400ብር አልጋ (አማን ሪዞርት ሱሉልታ) ሲሸጠው ብመለከት ጊዜ ነዋ አይተዋሕዶ እስከመቼ ይሆን እንዲህ ምትኖሪው አንደኝነቱን ግራኝ አሕመድ ሳይሻልሽ አልቀረም ሕዝብሽን ሁሉ ሰማዕት አድርጎ ገነት አስገባልሽ የዛሬው ‹‹መጋቤያችን›› ግን የመዝሙርና የከበሮ አንበሳእና የማሕሌት፣ የቅዳሴ፣ የሰዓታት ኤሊዎችን አፈራልሽ ይሁና!!!
አሐዱ ነኝ
ካለሁበት

Anonymous said...

እባካችሁ! ሁላችን እናስተውል!!!
ከባህር የወጣ ዓሳ... ነውና ነገሩ..
በዚህ ግዜ ከእንደዚህ ዓይነት ነገር መውጣት አለብን!...አንድ ውሻ በጩሆቱ /በአጯጯሁ/ ይታወቃል..መቼም ድመት ወይም ጅብ እንደማትሉኝ አውቃለሁኝ...የዚህ የክቡር ወንደማችን ስብከት የቤተክርስቲያናችን ጣዕመ ልሳን/መዓዛ/የሚያውቅ ሰው በትክክል የስብከቱ ዘዴና ዘይቤ የማን እንደሆነ ያውቃልዋል/በትክክል የፕሮስቲታንትነው/...ልክ ደሮ እንደማያውቅ ህፃን ልጄ ደሮውን ውሻ ነው እንዳትሉኝ.. እግዚአቢሔር እንፍራ፣እናምልክ ቤተ ክርስትያን እንሂድ፣ንስሃ እንግባ፣ስጋወ ደሙ እንብላ፣ ቃለ እግዚአቢሔር በንሮ እንተርጉመው፡፡እግዚአቢሔር በእናቱ ቅድስት ድንግል ማርያምና በቅድሳኑ ይርዳን አሜን፡፡

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y8WQSvuyDs

DN. Begashaw እግዚአብሔር እና ኢየሱስ ክርስቶስ የሚለዉን አትቀላቅሉ

sewitsew said...

አልገባኝም!!! ምን ማለት ነው በትሀትና ልጠይቅ??????

sewitsew said...

ምን ማለት ነው?? ታብራሩልኝ??

Anonymous said...

ምን ማለት ነው??? ታብራሩልኝ???

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