February 21, 2010

ብፁዕ አቡነ ዜና ማርቆስ ሲታወሱ፦ ዝግጅት በአሜሪካ ድምጽ (VOA)፣ ቅንብር በደጀ ሰላም



7 comments:

Anonymous said...

What then? His eminence has laid to rest,but we should not rest until our church is united.I believe our fathers here and there have taken lessons from this unfortunate and sad moment of his eminence's death, and they will do everything to demolish the wall of disagreements and come together for the sake of their church,the faithful,their country and themselves.Inorder to accomplish this, I believe that we need a committee of fathers from all sides that seriously take the matter(this antagonism between our fathers) and talks with all concerned paties to bringing up a lasting solution.
IT IS POSSIBLE, WITH THE HELP OF ALMIGHTY GOD, to bring a solution to this tragic situation of our church if we all pray and help in our capacity.Here is my opinion:
I suggest that 3 fathers from the fathers here,3 from Ethiopia and 3 from so called independent churches totally a committee of 9 persons established and shuttles between Ethiopia and USA.Then,the committee will come up with a solution to the differnces there may be before another father passes away.
who covers the cost?
I suggest that the churches in America, as they are eager to see the unity of our fathers,will be willing to cover any cost associated with this hallowed mission.
How to commence it? Readers help wanted.
May the merciful GOD give us his wisdom to win our enemy.

Zemen Abuhay said...

I don’t think the problem is between the fathers living in exile and those in Ethiopia. There is no peace among fathers living in Ethiopia either. I don’t think the problem is unique to the EOTC only. Today all Ethiopian religious organization are facing similar problem. When you think of peace and reconciliation you should think of the cause and effect factors. One cannot achieve a lasting solution by working only on the effect. You have to point to the cause without any fear. Otherwise it will not be a genuine effort.
The Ethiopian history is full of power struggle between the Church (EOTC) and the tyrant rulers of Ethiopia. The current cause is not any different. The disagreement between the fathers is just the effect of that power struggle. History also teaches us that the one who has the gun has the upper hand over the one who has only the cross but its life span is very short. The one with the cross have out lasted those with gun. Good example of those are the fathers who fought against Fascist invaders, injustice in the Emperor’s time, Mengistu’s oppression and still fighting Woyane’s tyranny. Some of them have waged a silent war within the country while those in exile are more out loud.
So you see your idea of “Shimaglies” is not deep enough to bring a lasting peace and reconciliation but it will to divide and weaken those in exile just like professor Endrias did with the former Kinijit. If that is your goal then I would say ride on. You will definitely succeed for a short while but mind you they will outlive you because they carry the cross not the gun.

Paster Zemen Abuhay

SendekAlama said...

“የሰው ልጅ በመጣ ጊዜ በምድር እምነትን ያገኝ ይሆንን” ሉቃ 18፣8

ሁላችን ከማዕረጋችን ተዋርደን ለገዛ ክብራችን እና ለሥጋዊ ጥቅም ብቻ እያደላን የተሰጠንን የምዕመንነት ፀጋና የእረኛነት ክብር ወዲያ አሽቀንጨጥረን ጥለን፤ ምዕመኑም ወደላይ አንጋጦ ቤተ ክርስቲያንን ካለመራሁ እያለ የማይጋግረውን ሲያቦካ፤ ካህናቱም የእነዚያ የቀደሙቱና «እናንተ ደግሞ ልትሄዱ ትወዳላችሁን?» ተብለው በጌታችን ሲጠየቁ «ጌታ ሆይ፥ ወደ ማን እንሄዳለን? አንተ የዘላለም ሕይወት ቃል አለህ፤ እኛስ አንተ ክርስቶስ የሕያው የእግዚአብሔር ልጅ እንደ ሆንህ አምነናል አውቀናልም» ብለው የመሰከሩትና «የእርሱን ግርማ አይተን እንጂ በብልሃት የተፈጠረውን ተረት ሳንከተል የጌታችንን የኢየሱስ ክርስቶስን ኃይልና መምጣት አስታወቅናችሁ» ያሉት ቅዱሳን ሐዋርያት ወንበር ላይ እንዳሉ ዘንግተው ለመንጋው የማይራሩ ሆነው እንዲህ በተራ እልህ ተወጥረውና የቤተ ክርስቲያንን በአስተዳደር መለያየት የእንጀራቸውና የሌላ ስውር ዓላማ ማስፈጸሚያ ባደረጉ ደፋሮች ሲጠመዘዙ ስናያቸው በእውነት የሰው ልጅ በመጣ ጊዜ በምድር እምነትን ያገኝ ይሆንን??? ያሰኘናል።

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Anonymous said...

Dear Dejeselam, thank you for pasting what is pasted somewhere. But I am curious about your claim 'QINIBIR BEDEJE SELAM'. What does that mean? Min aynet qinibir new??? Yeteqenabere ale ende, youtube yehone enji? Where is journalism? I expect analysis and commentaries from you, dear deje selam.

ደጀ-ሰላም said...

Dear last Anonym,
By "qinibir", we meant to refer to pictures of people added to the audio file VOA has broadcasted. VOA can not be criticised for adding the interviewd peoples pictures with out their knowledge. Apart from that, what ever you listened is that of VOA in general and Addisu Abebe in particular. I hope it is clear now.

Anonymous said...

So what then? shall we keep on dividing and subdue to devil forever ? No,we should not.It is only GOD's way that gives us peace and unity;and so, seriously, we have to try peaceful means.This need to be done as fast as possible before other fathers pass away,especially before Abune paulos dies.Believe it or not,he too has supporters and if he dies,Ethiopian church will never ever be one!
Does anybody think for a second that the people of Tigray, despite its criticism against aba Paulos,will accept another patriarch from Gonder or Shoa? Anybody should be able to see the fall out of events before it happens.Those who have been trying a peaceful means to end animosity among Ethiopians have well understood the quensequences of mere illusion.One has to contemplate on the reality of the day,not just what he/she wishes to happen.
There are,ofcourse,various individuals and entities that take advantage of our disunity;and hence,they put forward negating ideas to that end.Obtaining peace and unity by peaceful means is not easy.Yet the only way to everlasting peace is to come together and resolve differences through talks.We do not want to follow the examlpe of disunited ones.Instead,we should see those who have overcome their diagreements peacefully.
As to the cause of this mess we are in,all of us are responsible!
Ascending to patriarchate while the former is still alive is not right;by the same token though,leaving the sheep without shephered is not right.Just like our LORD put Himself to death for the sake of His sheep,those who take His foot step had to do the same.So now one can not blame the other for wrong doings,we all have transgressed our responsiblity.And we should focus on what needs to take place,we are where we are.

Nabute said...

“ከሐሰተኞች ነቢያት ተጠንቀቁ” ማቴ 7 ፤ 15

If u want to know who really the likes of 'EWNET' (actually HASET) and those of the influencial members of the fake synod (North America) please watch these video clips.

http://www.ethiotube.net/video/7935/Ethiopian-Orthodox-Tewahedo-Vs-Tehadiso-Part-116

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