December 29, 2009

አዲስ የኦርቶዶክሳውያን የጡመራ እንቅስቃሴ

(ደጀ ሰላም፤ ዲሴምበር 29/2009)፦ በ2009 ካየናቸው አዳዲስ እንቅስቃሴዎች መካከል ኦርቶዶክሳውያን በጡመራው መድረክ “ደጀ ሰላም”ን ተከትለው መሄዳቸው ነው። ከነዚህም መካከል አንባቢያችን ሰይፈ ገብርኤል ዛሬ ያደረሰን የሚከተሉት ብሎጎች ይገኙበታል። ተመልከቷቸውና ይዘታቸውን ተቹ።
1. ሰንበቴ http://senbete.blogspot.com/
2. መረዋ ምታ http://merewametta.blogspot.com/
3. ሰላም ተዋሕዶ http://selam-tewahedo.blogspot.com/
4. አዘክሪ http://azekiri21.blogspot.com/
5. ኪዱኤል (??) http://kiduel.blogspot.com/

“ደጀ ሰላም” በበኩሏ http://deje-selam.blogspot.com/ የሚለውን የተለመደ ገጿን እንደያዘች www.dejeselam.org የሚለውንም ከትናንት ጀምሮ መጠቀም ጀምራለች።


21 comments:

Anonymous said...

እረ እባካችሁ ሁላችሁም አርፋችሁ ተቀመጡ፡፡ ደጀ ሰላምን ጨምሮ ከምታስተምሩት የምታጠፉት ይበዛል፡፡ ማናችሁም ብትሆኑ መንፈሳዊነት ያለው ስራ እየሰራን ነው ብላችሁ ራሳችሁን አታታሉ፡፡ እርስ በርስ መናቆርን እንደ ትልቅ ዜና ስትዘግቡና ሰምተናቸው የማናውቃቸውን ስድቦች ስላስተዋወቃችሁን እንደ ጽድቅ ቆጥራችሁት ይሆን ቴክኖሎጂውን መጠቀም ስለቻላችሁ ብቻ እንደልባችሁ አትጻፉ የምትጽፉት የስጋን ይሁን የመንፈስን ራሳችሁን መርምሩ፡፡ ለራሳችሁ ስትሉ የመጣላችሁን ከመጻፋችሁ በፊት ደጋግማችሁ አንብቡት፡፡ አንድ ቅዱስ አባት ብጹዕ ለመሆን ብትፈልግ ሆድህንና አፍህን ጠብቅ ብሏል፡፡ እንደ መንፈሳውያን እናስብ፡፡ የወንድሞቻችንን በደል ከመዘርዘር የራሳችንን ኃጢአት እያሰብን ብናዝን የተሸለ ነው፡፡

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soresa said...

“አዲስ የኢትዮጵያ ኦርቶዶክሳውያን የጡመራ እንቅስቃሴ” በሚል ደጀ ሠላም የዘገበችውን ገና ዕርሱ ሳይ ተመስገን ብዬ ነበረ። እነዚህ አዲስ የተባሉት የጡመራ መድረኮች የእያንዳናዳቸው ይዘት ለማየት ሁሉንም በየተራ ዳሰስኳቸው። በጣም በሚገርም ሁኔታ ደጀ ሠላም ካስተዋወቀችን ከአምስቱ የጡመራ መድረኮች መሀከል ሦስቱ በአንድ አጥቢያ ቤተ ክርስቲያን በአስተዳደር ቦርዱ መሀከል ስለተፈጠረ አለመግባባት የቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱን የይገባኛል ክሶች እና የፍርድ ቤት ውሳኔዎችን የሚያትቱ ናቸው። እነዚሁ ሶስቱ ሰንበቴ፣መረዋ መታ እና ሠላም ተዋህዶ በአንድ አጥቢያ ቤተ ተክርስቲያን እርስ በርስ አለመግባባት ምክንያት በሁለት ጎራ ተከፋፍለው አንዱን አንዱ የሚዘልፉበት መድረኮች ናቸው። ይህ አሳፋሪ ተግባር የተህዶን ሥም ይዞ ማየቱ ባልፈጠር የሚያሰኝ ሲሆን፤ ደጀ ሠላምንም በውስጤ መርገሚን አልቀረም “እነዚህ የጡመራ መድረኮች ለምን አሳወቅሽኝ” በማለት።

ቤተ ክርስቲያናችን እኮ ስንዱ እመቤት ናት። በአጥቢያ ቤተ ከርስቲያን ውስጥ አለመግባባቶች ቢፈጠሩ “ፍትህ መንፈሳዊ” የሚል የራሷ የሆነ የመዳኛ ህግ አላት። የተዋህዶን ስም እስከያዝን ድረስ ለምን ህጎቿን አንተረጉማቸውም?። ይህ ሁል ግዜ የማነሳው ጥያቄ ነው። እንግዲህ “አዲስ የኦርቶዶክሳውያን የጡመራ መድረክ” በማለት እደ አዲስ ዜና የቀረቡልን በእኔ እይታ “ከድጡ ወደ ማጡ” ሆኖ አግኝቼዋለሁ።
አቤል ቀዳማዊ

Wongel said...

Don't forget my blog and please participate there.

http://wongelforall.wordpress.org

Wongelforall said...

http://wongelforall.wordpress.com

Sorry for repeating it again.

Anonymous said...

+++

the blog of "kiduel" must be kidding himself. How dare he got the audacity to put Liqe Liqawunt Ayalew and THAT Tehadso Begashaw ,next to each other? It is a big insult to Aleqa Ayalew and Orthodox Tewahedo as a whole.

Anonymous said...

I totally agree with Abel Kedamawi's comments. Please, DejeSelam authors think twice before writing anything on your blog. I think you have a moral obligation to consider your readers comments. Do not forget the fact that we have a right to avoid reading your blog if you keep tarnishing the image of EOTC. I am personally losing my confidence on this blog from day to day. But still there is time to improve your service, if you have a genuine cause to blog about our beloved Church.

ደጀ-ሰላም said...

The last "anonymous",
Deje Selam is not asking its readers to believe it or not. We do what we should do. It is unto the readers to take what is worth taking. Besides, the era of "not writing what is we do not support" is over. The blogs we posted for dejeselamaweyan to know, whether we believe it or not, deal with our Church. Please accept facts.
One more thing, if you think Deje Selam is not good for you, you are entitled to your ideals.
DS

ደጀ-ሰላም said...

The last "anonymous",
Deje Selam is not asking its readers to believe it or not. We do what we should do. It is unto the readers to take what is worth taking. Besides, the era of "not writing what is we do not support" is over. The blogs we posted for dejeselamaweyan to know, whether we believe it or not, deal with our Church. Please accept facts.
One more thing, if you think Deje Selam is not good for you, you are entitled to your ideals.
DS

Anonymous said...

“እንግዲህ “አዲስ የኦርቶዶክሳውያን የጡመራ መድረክ” በማለት እደ አዲስ ዜና የቀረቡልን በእኔ እይታ “ከድጡ ወደ ማጡ” ሆኖ አግኝቼዋለሁ።” አቤል ቀዳማዊ
i see a little hasty generalization here. The blogs introduced are launched for some cause, as i understand. gentle comments might help the bloggers to correct their errors (if there are any) and work hard for the church. from the five introduced, i knew only two - one of which I used to enjoy has already stopped updating. come on people, we need more blogs, responsible and dedicated ones. so let us share the bloggers our views in a more genuine way.

Wongelforall said...

ሰላም ወገኖች፡ ኦሪት ዘዳግም ምዕራፍ 31 ጀምሮ በማን እንደተጻፈ ሊረዳኝ የሚችል አለ? እስከ ምዕራፍ 31 ያለው በሙሴ የተጻፈ ሲሆን በ31፤24 ላይ ሙሴ መጽሐፉን እንደ ጨረሰ ይገልጻል እንዲሁም በምዕራፍ 34 የሙሴን አሟሟትና ከዚያ በሗላ የነበረውን የኢያሱን እስራኤልን መምራት ይገልጻል። ስለዚህ እነዚህን ሶስት ምዕራፎች ማለትም 32 33 34ን ማን ጻፋቸው? መቼስ ተጻፉ።

የምታውቁ እንደምትመልሱልኝ ተስፋ አደርጋለሁ።

ከሰላምታ ጋር

Eskibel said...

At the begining it is so difficult to talk about the real Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church in America, here, all of us have no real christianity. We come here with different reasons longing for money. We leave our land with a minute and elementary reasons ,knowing the country expects more from us. in general"befikire niway" teyizen yemetan silehone , we don't have the moral to talk and preach christianity, the kingdom of God,the true gospel. I don't believe there are churches here founded by the Blood of Christ. Rather that looks a business organization. Christianity is unity. Christianity is peace. Christianity is Love, etc. That is what Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo's Church teaching. But here we are rather triggering hatred and disentegration.
So, I got all the blogs that are run by unmatured persons. I expect DS would be better but now I concluded it is the worest . It becomes media of hatred, antagonism.
You all let's come to our mind, let's be christain, let's preach unity, prosperity, peace.

Do remember Muse(Mosses) " enesun kemitatefa enen kehiwot metsaf demisisegn" . This is what realy we lack.
In general, expecting good from Diasposras is a daydream.
May God Bless Ethiopia.

John Zebaptist said...

The second anonymouse: Can you give us evidence that Begashaw is Tehadiso? Or you guys are crazy nowadays? I was having most of his preaching, even though he has some characters which most orthodox preachers have, he is good. And still the songs written by him are very great. I don't know why our people lack ability and courage to work together.

Nowadays, I afraid that we will not make progress in our church.
Even if there is a need to Tehadiso, we should make it.

Anonymous said...

"John Zebaptist"

Go hang yourself! I stand by my word and my view. I have dozens of proofs about the identity of ppl like Begashaw. The Tewahedo Church of today got its true self not by indifferent people being indifferent to things, but by being true to The Book and martyrdom of your and my fathers.

Tazabiw said...

Mista "Anony..." (who is trying to answer "John Zebaptist")

He asked you a question, to provide some proof about your claims that might be helpful to us all... But do you have to be so angry to tell someone to kill himself. Oh! My... is that the true Christianity you claim to follow ? That is wacky! Man! Please think loooong before you write anything or before you speak. I think you owe him an apology.

Peace,

Tazabiw

Anonymous said...

Isn't surprising to hear that Dn. is Tehadeso? What motivates you to say that??? As far as I know he is one of the best although I don't like his insults on church fahers. To mention some: The way he insulted church father in his book "yemeskelu sir qumartegnoch".

Asmeret said...

መቼም ጉድ ሳይሰማ መስከረም አይጠባ፤ ዛሬስ ብላችሁ ብላችሁ ሊቀ ሊቃውንት አለቃ አያሌውን ከመንደር አውደልዳይ እና ለቤተክርስቲያናችን ጸር ከሆነው ዲያቆን ተብየው እኩል መጥራትና ማወዳደር በእውነት የሚያሳዝን ነው፤ ያሳፍራልም፡፡ በመዝሙሩም ሆነ በስብከቱ ይህንን ትውልድ በጥሩ ሁኔታ እንደያዘ መናገር የሚያሳፍር ነው፡፡ይህንን ንግግር ቅዱስ ያሬድ አይስማ እንዲሁም ቅዱሳን አበው አይስሙ፡፡ ለዚህ ትውልድ ያቆዩልን ይህን አልነበረምና፡፡ አጽማቸው ይፋረደናል፡፡ በእውነት ስለእውነት ብትቆጩ እግዚአብሔር መሐሪ ነውና ይቅር ይላችኃል፡፡ ካልሆነ ግን በእግዚአብሔር ቤት ቀልዶ የኖረ ሰው አላየሁም፤ ፍርዱም ቀላል አይደለም እና በንስሐ እንመለስ፡፡

John Zebaptist said...

ሰላም ወገኖች፡ እኔ በጣም እየገረመኝ ያለው ነገር ቢኖር እኔ ነኝ ብየ እንደማስበው ሁሉ እናንተም ለቤተ ክርስቲያን እንጂ ለራሳችሁ ሐሳብ የምትናገሩ እንዳለሆናችሁ እገምታለሁ። ሁላችንም ቢሆን ለእግዚአብሔር ቃልና ለቤተ ክርስቲያን ስርዓት ቅድሚያ መስጠት አለብን።

ዋናው ነገር ይህ ሆኖ ሳለ ዝም ብሎ አንዱን ከአንዱ መደባለቅና ራዕይ ካለው አገልግሎት ይልቅ እንዲሁ አንዱን በማደናቀፍና በማሸማቀቅ የሚሆን አገልግሎት ለቤተ ክርስቲያን በምንም መልኩ ሊጠቅም አይችልም።

በጋሻው ምናምን የሚባሉ ሰባኪያንን በአካል እንኳን አይቻቸው አላውቅም ሆኖም አገልግሎታቸው ደግሞ ጥሩ እንደሆነ በራሴ አይቻለሁ። ይህንን ስል ምንም ችግር የለባቸውም ማለቴ አይደለም።ችግር ይኖርባቸዋል እንደማናችንም ማለት ነው። ሆኖም ግን እንዲሁ አንድን ሰው እንደስጦታው ስላገለገለና እኛ በምናስበው መልኩ ስላልሰበከ ሌላ ስም መስጠቱን ሁላችንም ልናስብበት የሚገባ ጉዳይ ነው።

እርግጥ ነው ለዚህ ሁሉ ትርምስ ተጠያቂው የአባ ጳውሎስ አስተዳደር ነው። እነሱ ለቤተ ክርስቲያን የሚቆምና ትክክለኛ የሚሰማ መልስ የሚሰጥ አካል እንዲጠፋ አደረጉ ይኸው ዛሬ እርስ በእርሳችን ያለ ገላጋይ እንጠላለፋለን።

ሌላው ይቅርና በእመቤታችን ዙሪያ የተነሳውን ነገር መነጋገር ያለባቸው ቀሲስ አስተራይና ቀሲሰ ደጀኔ ናቸው ወይስ ጳጳሳቱ? የሚገርም ዘመን።

እግዚአብሔር ለቤተ ክርስቲያናችን መሪ እንዲሰጥ ፈቃዱ ይሁን።አሜን!!

Anonymous said...

John The Baptist:

May God Bless you and your family for your insightful advise. I am so sick and tired of those who stand on milk box with righteous indignation labeling people left and right. They carry the tongue of the devil while claiming to serve the body of Christ. How can that be?

Your comment regarding:"ሌላው ይቅርና በእመቤታችን ዙሪያ የተነሳውን ነገር መነጋገር ያለባቸው ቀሲስ አስተራይና ቀሲሰ ደጀኔ ናቸው ወይስ ጳጳሳቱ?"
clearly showcasing how our church is left without shepherds at this critical moment. Because of Kesis Dejene's teaching all Mahebere Kidusan followers are being accused of Buddhism. That is not right either.

I suggest we still need to read and ask both ቀሲስ አስተራይና ቀሲሰ ደጀኔ to further clarify their stance. for that let us all read their contentions:

ቀሲሰ ደጀኔ - “Neger Mariam”

http://www.mahiberekidusan.org/Portals/0/Negere_Maryam.pdf

ቀሲስ አስተራይ - “Yebase Gud Meta”

http://www.medhanialemeotcks.org/pdf/TABOO.pdf

Thanks
Martha

Anonymous said...

Sorry

ቀሲሰ ደጀኔ - “Neger Mariam”

http://www.mahiberekidusan.org/
Portals/0/Negere_Maryam.pdf

ቀሲስ አስተራይ - “Yebase Gud Meta”

http://www.medhanialemeotcks.org/pdf/TABOO.pdf

Thanks
Martha

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know an Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo church in the US, that all the priests, board members, choir and other prominent service givers strictly follow our sacred beliefs and traditions, without thinking about attracting individuals or money or building, giving priority to the real teachings and honoring the liturgical servics as in the old days, with respect to the sanctuary, fully honoring the fact that the Wisdom of fearing the Almighty God is the most important and the preceds all wisdoms? Please, if there is a church that within the last few years has done worship without any arguments, let us know. I want to sell my house and move to that area and join. I am tired of keeping my family away to shield them so they don't see the negative side of the church and run away when they grow up - but it has become the day to day in all more than 20 churches within 4 hours of drive - which I can't do more every week. Please let me know \

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