October 16, 2009

ለኢትዮጵያ ኦርቶዶከስ ተዋሕዶ ቤተ ክርስቲያን ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ: Petition

(ደጀ ሰላም፤ አክቶበር 16/2009)፦ ፔቲሽኑን ለመፈረም ወደዚህ ይሂዱ፤


ውድ ደጀ ሰላማውያን፣ ለብዙ ጊዜ ስንጠብቀው የነበረው ለቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ የምናቀርበው “ፔቲሽን” እነሆ በዚህ መልኩ ተዘጋጅቷል። ይህንን ጽሑፍ ያዘጋጁትን ወንድሞች እህቶች ከልብ እናመሰግናለን። እነሆ በማንበብ ለሚመለከታቸው ሁሉ ለማድረስ ትሞክሩ ዘንድ ደጀ ሰላም በትህትና ታሳስባለች።
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አሜን

በስመ አብ ወወልድ ወመንፈስ ቅዱስ አሐዱ አምላክ አሜን!
በተለያዩ የዓለም ክፍሎች ከምንገኝ የኦርቶዶክስ ተዋሕዶ ተከታዮች፣
ለኢትዮጵያ ኦርቶዶከስ ተዋሕዶ ቤተ ክርስቲያን ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ
አዲስ አበባ።
ቀን፦ ጥቅምት 6/2002 ዓ.ም
መግቢያ
ቤተ ክርስቲያናችን መሠረቷና ጉልላቷ ክርስቶስ ሆኖ ከተመሠረተ ጀምሮ ሕዝቦቿን በፍቅር በሰላም በአንድነት ስትመራ ስለ ክርስቶስ ወንጌል እና በሰማያት ስላለው ክብር ስትመሰክር እስከ ዛሬ ደርሳለች። ሆኖም እስከ ዛሬ የደረሰችው ያለ ችግር እና ያለ ፈተና አይደለም። ታሪክ እንደሚያስታውሰን ፈተናዋ ብዙ ቢሆንም በሁሉ ላይ ሥልጣን ያለውን እግዚአብሔርን በመያዟና በትክክለኛው የእግዚአብሔር ቃል የሚሄዱ፣ ከዚህ ዓለም ተድላና ደስታ ይልቅ ለእግዚአብሔር ራሳቸውን ጃንደረባ ያደረጉ ልጆች ስለነበሯት ነው። እነርሱ ፈተናውን በመንፈሳዊ ድል አሸንፈው ለእኛ አስተላልፈውልናል።ይህም ከአባቶቻችን የተሰወረ አይደለም።

የቤተ ክርስቲያን አስተዳደር በክርስቶስ ወንድሞቻችን በሚሆኑ በግብጽ አባቶቻችን ተይዞ ቢቆይም በእግዚአብሔር ፈቃድ በአባቶቻችን ያላሰለሰ ጥረት ቤተ ክርስቲያን ከራሷ ልጆች ጳጳሳትን መሾም ከጀመረች ጀምሮ የማይናቁ ተግባራትን አከናውናለች። ቤተ ክርስቲያን በአሁኑ ጊዜ ጥሩ ጥሩ የአገልግሎት ጅምሮች ቢኖሯትም እንኳን መሥራት ከሚገባት ብዙ ተግባር አኳያ ሲታይ ገና ምንም ያልተነካ እንዲያውም ለሕልውናዋ እንኳን የሚያሰጋት ፈተናዎች በተጋረጡበት ዘመን ላይ ትገኛለች።

በቤተ ክርስቲያናችን ውስጥ የምናያቸው ችግሮችን ለመፍታት ሁሉም የቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱ አካላት (ምዕመናን፤ ካህናት፤ ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ) እና በልዩ ልዩ ቦታዎች በቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱ አስተዳደር ያሉ ሰዎችን የሚመለከት ነው። እነዚህን አካላት ሁሉ የሚያዝዝ በቤተ ክርስቲያን ላይም ሙሉ ሥልጣን ያለው ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ ስለሆነ ቅዱስ ሲኖዶሱ ለቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱ የሚያስፈልጋትን እያቀደ ቢያዝዝ ችግሮቹ በአብዛኛው እንደሚፈቱ እናምናለን።
የዚህ ደብዳቤ ዓላማም ቤተ ክርስቲያን ያለችበትን ዘመን በመዋጀት ለምዕመናን ምሳሌ እና አርአያ በመሆን በነገር ሁሉ የሚጠበቅባትን ለመሥራት እንድትዘጋጅ እንደ ቤተ ክርስቲያን ልጅነታችን ለማሳሰብ፤ በአሁኑ ጊዜ በአባቶቻችን መካከል የተፈጠረው አለመግባባት እልባት እንዲያገኝም ለማመላከት ነው። ይህን ሐሳብ ከዚህ በታች ስማችን የተያያዘ የቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱ አማኞች ተወያይተን ያጸደቅነው ሲሆን ምንም እንኳን ሁሉንም ምዕመናን አግኝቶ ማሳተፍ ባይቻልም ይህ ሀሳብ ሀሳባቸው መሆኑን ለማወቅ አያዳግትም። በመሆኑም ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ በሚገባ ጊዜ ሰጥቶ ይህንን ሐሳባችንን እንዲመለከትልን እና የምዕመናንን ጥያቄዎች ችላ እንዳይልብን በአክብሮት እንጠይቃለን።
ክፍል አንድ
በቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ ውስጥ ስላሉ ችግሮች
በአሁኑ ጊዜ በቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ አባላት መካከል የተከሰተው ችግር ምዕመናንን በጽኑ ያሳዘነ፣ የቤተ ክርስቲያንን ጠላት ያስደሰተ፣ እግዚአብሔርን ያስቀየመ ነገር ነው። ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ አባላቱ ብጹዓን አበው ሰዎች በመሆናቸው የሐሳብ አለመግባባት ቢፈጠር ሁሉም የተለያየ ሐሳብ ሊኖራቸው ስለሚችል አይገርመንም። ሆኖም ከቤተ ክርስቲያን ሕግ፣ ሥርዓትና ደንብ ውጭ እንዲሁም መመሪያችን ከሆነው ከእግዚአብሔር ቃልም በተቃራኒ የተፈጸሙት ነገሮች የሚያሳዝኑ እና አንገትን የሚያስደፉ እንደነበረ አባቶቻችንም ራሳችሁ የምታውቁት ጉዳይ ነው።
በመሆኑም ይህንን ችግር አስመልክቶ አቋማችንን እና ወደፊት ሊደረጉ ስለሚገባቸው ጉዳዮች እንደሚከተለው እንገልጻለን።

1. በአባቶች መካከል የተፈጠረውን አለመግባባት ተከትሎ በአንዳንድ የቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱ ጳጳሳት ላይ የተከሰተው የማስፈራራት እና የድብደባ ሙከራ ፍጹም የተወገዘ ተግባር ነው። ይህን ያደረጉ አካላትም በህግ ፊት ቀርበው እንዲጠየቁ ቤተ ክርስቲያን መንግሥትን እንድትጠይቅ፣ ቤተ ክርስቲያንም በቀኖናዋ መሰረት ተገቢውን እርምት እንድትሰጣቸው።
2. ቤተ ክርስቲያን መንፈስ ቅዱስ በሾማቸው ጳጳሳት ብቻ እንድትመራ ፤አንዳንድ ግለሰቦች የሚያደርጉት ጣልቃ ገብነት እንዲቆም፤
3. ለወደፊት በሲኖዶስ አባላት መካከል ችግር/አለመግባባት/ ቢኖር በቤተ ክርስቲያን በጸሎት እንዲታሰብ የሚደረግበት ሁኔታ እንዲመቻች፤
4. ከቤተ ክርስቲያን አባቶች መካከል ማንም በስጋዊ እና በሚያስነውር ስራ ቢገኝ ቤተ ክርስቲያን በቀኖናዋ መሰረት ማረም እና ማስተካከል እንጂ ለምዕመናንም ሆነ ለማያምኑ ሰዎች አሳልፋ እንዳትሰጥ፤
5. የቅዱስ ፓትርያርኩን ሐሳብ በተቃወሙ አንድ ሊቀ ጳጳስ ላይ የተጻፈውን ሰም አጥፊ ጽሑፍ የጻፉም ሆነ ያሰራጩ ግለሰቦች ኦርቶዶክሳውያን ከሆኑ ቤተ ክርስቲያን ባላት ሕግ መሠረት እንድትጠይቃቸው። ለወደፊትም በዚህ ዓይነት መንገድ አባቶችን ለማሳፈር እና ለማሸማቀቅ በሚሰራ ሥራ የቤተ ክርስቲያናችን ሰዎች ተባባሪ እንዳይሆኑ እንዲሁም ይህ ሥራ በይፋ እንዲወገዝ፤
6. ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ የሚያሳልፋቸውን ውሳኔዎች የቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ አባላትም ሆኑ አጠቃላይ የቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱ ምዕመናን እንዲያከብሯቸው፤
7. ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ ቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱን የሚመራ የመጨረሻው አካል በመሆኑ ከጊዜው ጋር እንድትራመድ የሚያደርጋትን አሠራር በውስጡ ለመዘርጋት በአንድ ልብ እና በመንፈስ ቅዱስ ለቤተ ክርስቲያን እንዲሠራ፤
8. ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ በራሱ አባላት መካከል ችግር ቢፈጠርበት እንኳን በሳል ሊቃውንትን እና ምዕመናንን እየጠራ እንዲያማክር እንጂ ነገሩ የማይመለከታቸው ሰዎች በቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ ጉባኤ እንዳይጋበዙ፤
9. ማንኛውም የቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱ ጳጳስ ከቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱ ሊያገኝ የሚችለውን የሕግ ከለላ እና ደኀንነት ማግኘት እንዲችል እንዲደረግ በእግዚአብሔር ስም እንጠይቃለን።

ክፍል ሁለት
በቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ እና በውጭ ያሉ አባቶችን (የቀድሞ የቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ አባላትን) ግንኙነት በተመለከተ

ቤተ ክርስቲያን በቅርቡ ከተከሰቱባት ታላቅ ፈተናዎች እና አሳዛኝ ጉዳዮች አንዱ በስሟ የሚጠራ ሌላ አካል መቋቋሙ ነው። ይኸውም “ስደተኛው ሲኖዶስ” በመባል የሚታወቀው እና መቀመጫውን በሰሜን አሜሪካ ያደረገው በቀድሞው ፓትርያርክ የሚመራው አካል ነው። እኛ ምዕመናን በሁለቱ አካላት መካከል የሃይማኖት ልዩነት እንደሌለ እንገነዘባለን። የሃይማኖት ልዩነት ሳይኖር በአስተዳደራዊ ችግር ምክንያት ቤተ ክርስቲያን መከፋፈሏ እኛ ምዕመናን አርአያ የምናደርገው አባት እንደሌለን ያሳየን እና አባቶች ምን ያክል ለመንጋቸው እንደአማይራሩ የሚጠቁም አሳዛኝ ድርጊት ነው። በመሆኑም ሁለቱን አካላት በተመለከተ የሚከተለውን አቋም ለቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ ለማቅረብ እንወዳለን።

1. ስለ ቅድስት ቤተ ክርስቲያናችን ህልውና እና ስለ ምዕመናን ሲሉ ቀርበው እንዲነጋገሩ እና ችግራቸውን በጠረጴዛ ዙሪያ ለመፍታት እንዲሞክሩ፤
2. ሁሉም የቤተ ክርስቲየን አባቶች በመፈቃቀር እና በአንድነት ላይ የተመሠረተ አገልግሎት እንዲኖራቸው ለማድረግ ራሳቸውን እንዲያዘጋጁ በእግዚአብሔር ስም እንጠይቃለን።

ክፍል ሶስት
አጠቃላይ የቤተ ክርስቲያን ችግሮችን ስለመፍታት

ቤተ ክርስቲያናችን ቀላል የማይባሉ ችግሮች በዙሪያዋ እየተደቀኑባት ይገኛል። በመሆኑም እነዚህን ችግሮች መረዳት እና በተቻለ መጠንም መፍትሄ መስጠት ይገባል። ከዚህ በታች ያሉ ችግሮችን በጥልቀት የተወያየንባቸው ስለሆነ ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ በራሱ መፍታት የሚችላቸውን በራሱ እንዲፈታ ባይችል ግን ከሚመለከታቸው አካላት ጋር በመነጋገር ችግሮችን መፍታትን እንዲቻል እንጠይቃለን።

ሀ. ከቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱ ውጭ ያሉ የቤተ ክርስቲያን ችግሮች፡ ቤተ ክርስቲያን በአሁኑ ጊዜ ከእርሷ ውጭ ያሉ እና ቢቻል መጥፋቷን ባይቻል ደግሞ መድከሟን የሚፈልጉ አካላት መኖራቸው ግልጥ ነው። በመሆኑም ከመንግሥት ጋርም ሆነ ከሌሎች የሚመለከታቸው አካላት ጋር በመሆን ችግሮቹ የሚፈቱበት ሁኔታ እንዲመቻች እንጠይቃለን። ከችግሮቹም መካከል፦
1. በአክራሪ ሙስሊሞች አማካይነት በምዕመናን እና በቤተ ክርስቲያን ላይ የሚደርሰው ትንኮሳ እንዲገታ፤
2. ምዕመናን በእምነታቸው እንዳይኖሩ ቤተ ክርስቲያንን እምነት እና ትውፊት በአጠቃላይ የእርሷ የሆነውን ሁሉ እያጥላሉ እና እየዋሹ የሚናገሩ መናፍቃን አላግባብ ድንበር ዘለል ትችት እንዲቆም፤
3. ቤተ ክርስቲያን በትውልዱ ዘንድ ተቀባይነት እንዳይኖራት ታሪክን እያዛቡ የሚያቀርቡ ግለሰቦች እና አካላት እየጨመሩ መምጣታቸው እንደ ቤተ ክርስቲያን ልጅነታችን የሚያሳስቡን ስለሆነ ችግሮቹ ትኩረት እንዲሰጣቸው በእግዚአብሔር ስም እንጠይቃለን።

ለ. በቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱ ውስጥ ያሉ የቤተ ክርስቲያን ችግሮች፦ ቤተ ክርስቲያን ከውጭ ከሚደርስባት ችግር ይልቅ ለድክመቷ እና ወደ ዃላ እንድትሄድ እያደረጋት ያለው በራሷ ቤት ውስጥ እየተፈጠሩ ያሉት ችግሮቿ ናቸው። በመሆኑም ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ የሚከተሉትን የቤተ ክርስቲያን የውስጥ ችግሮች እንዲፈቱ የሚያደርግበትን ሁኔታ በጥልቀት እና በሰከነ መንፈስ አይቶ እንዲያሻሽል የሚከተሉትን ሐሳቦች እናቀርባለን።
1. በቤተ ክርስቲያን ውስጥ እየተፈጸሙ ያሉት የአስተዳደር ችግሮች ትኩረት እንዲሰጣቸው እና እንዲፈቱ፦ አሁን ባለው የቤተ ክርስቲያን ሁኔታ ከአንድ አጥቢያ እስከ ጠቅላይ ቤተ ክህነት ድረስ ልንናገረው ከሚገባው በላይ የአስተዳደር በደል እና ሙስና እንዳለ ተረድተናል። ቤተ ክርስቲያን ትልቅ ተቋም ባለ ድርሻ አካላቶቿም ብዙዎች በመሆናቸው ይህችን ታላቅ መንፈሳዊት ተቋም በሚገባ በተደራጀ እና በተጠና መንገድ ማስተዳደር ይገባል።
2. አለመተማመን እና እርስ በእርስ መናቆር ከቤተ ክርስቲያን አገልጋይ አካላት ዘንድ እንዲጠፋ፦ ቤተ ክርስቲያን አሁን ባለችበት ደረጃ ብዙ አገልጋዮች ቢኖሯትም እርስ በእርስ አንዱ አንዱን ሲከስ ይታያል። በመሆኑም በእያንዳንዱ ቡድን መካከል ያለውን ችግር ለመፍታት ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ ዋናው በመሆኑ ሁሉንም አገልጋዮች በፍቅር እና በአንድነት፤ በመተሳሰብ እና በመከባበር እንዲሰሩ መመሪያ እንዲሰጥ። ችግሮችም ሰፈጠሩ የሚመለከታቸውን አካላት እንዲያናግር እና እንዲያርም፤
3. የተቀናጀ እና የተጠናከረ አሠራር አለመኖሩ፦ አገልጋዮች እርስ በእርሳቸው የሚናቆሩ በመሆናቸው፤ ቤተ ክርስቲያንን የሚመራው ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስም አባቶች እንደሚናገሩት በሚገባ መልኩ እየተንቀሳቀሰ ባለመሆኑ ቤተ ክርስቲያን ወጥነት ያለው እና የተቀናጀ ሥራ እየሰራች አይደለም። በዚህም በሐገር ውስጥ ደረጃ እንኳን ወጥነት ያለው እና ለትውልድ የሚተላለፍ መሰረት የሚጥል ሥራ መስራት አልተቻለም። ስለዚህ ለዚህም ተገቢው መፍትሔ እንዲሰጠው፤
ክፍል አራት
ቤተ ክርስቲያን በርእይ እና በዕቅድ እንድትሠራ ስለማድረግ
ዘመናችን በርእይ እና በዕቅድ የሚመሩበት እና ስለ እያንዳንዱ ነገርም በጥንቃቄ በመመርመር ትክክለኛውን መንገድ ችግር ካለበት እየለዩ የሚሰሩበት ጊዜ ነው። ቤተ ክርስቲያን ትልቅ ተቋም እንደመሆኗ እና አገልግሎቷም ሕዝብን ወደ እግዚአብሔር መንግሥት ማቅረብ በመሆኑ በዕቅድ እና በርእይ ልትሠራ ይገባታል። ሁሉን ፈጻሚ እግዚአብሔር ቢሆንም ግን ቤተ ክርስቲያን የዛሬ አምስት ዓመት፤ አሥር ዓመት፤ ሃያ እና ሃምሳ ዓመት ውስጥ ልትሠራተቸው እና ልትደርስባቸው የሚገባትን ግቦች እየተለመች ልትሠራ ይገባታል። በአሁኑ ጊዜ ግን በቅርብ ያጋጠሟትን ችግሮቿን በመፍታት ላይ ያነጣጠረ ሥራ አቅዳ ልትሰራ ይገባታል።

በሁሉም አገልግሎቷ ማቀድ ቢኖርባትም እንኳን ለወደፊቷ ቤተ ክርስቲያን በጣም አስፈላጊ በሆኑ በሚከተሉት ጉዳዮች ላይ አቅዳ ርዕይ እና እቅድ ኖሯት ልትሠራባቸው ይገባል እንላለን።
1. አሁን ባለው አካሄድ ቤተ ክርስቲያን ከአስርት ዓመታት በኋላ በገጠር አካበቢ የሚረከቧትን መምህራን እና ካህናትን ማግኘት አዳጋች ይሆናል።ለዚህም ደግሞ በአሁኑ ጊዜ በየገጠሩ በአገልጋይ እጦት እየተዘጉ ያሉ አብያተ ክርስቲያናት ከቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ የተሰወረ አይደለም። በመሆኑም ወደ ፊት በገጠሪቱ ኢትዮጵያ በሁሉም አካባቢዎች አገልጋዮችን እንዴት ማፍራት እንደሚቻል፤ ባይቻል ደግሞ በገጠሪቱ ያሉ ምዕመናን እንዴት ማገልገል እንዳለባት ሁኔታዎችን አይታ ልታቅድ ይገባታል።
2. ኦርቶዶክሳዊት ቤተ ክርስቲያናችንን በሀገራችን እንዳላት ምዕመና ብዛት እና ጥንታዊት እንደመሆኗ የሚጠበቀውን ያክል በማኀበራዊ ዘርፍ እየተንቀሳቀሰች አይደለም። የዚህም ምክንያት ከበጀት ጋር የተያያዘ ምክንያትም ሊኖረው እንደሚችል ማወቅ ቢቻልም የአቅሟን ያክልም እየተንቀሳቀሰች ስላልሆነ ክርስቲያናዊ ተራድዖ ኮሚሽኑ በሚገባ ተጠናክሮ ሥራውን እንዲቀጥል ቢደረግ፤ ይህንንም ከዓለም አቀፍ ለጋሾች እና ከምዕመናን ጋር በቅርበት የሚሰራበት ሁኔታ እየተጠና ታቅዶ መሠራት ይኖርበታል።
3. ቤተ ክርስቲያን የምትኖረው በምዕመናን በሚያወጡት ስዕለት እና አስራት መሆኑ ይታወቃል። ሆኖም አሁን ካላው ኑሮ ውድነት አንጻር ምዕመናን የሚያደርጉት አስተዋፅኦ ብቻውን የካህናትን ኑሮ ደህና ደረጃ ላይ እያደረሰው አይደለም። ካህናትም በተለይ በከተማ ያሉ ካህናት ሙሉ ቀን በአገልግሎት ተጠምደው የሚኖሩ አይደሉም። በመሆኑም ቤተ ክርስቲያን ካህናት ከአገልግሎታቸው በተጨማሪ አንዳንድ ሥራዎችን እንዲሰሩ የምታበረታታበት ሁኔታ እንዲመቻች የሚሆንበትን ሁኔታ እንድታቅድ።
4. ቤተ ክርስቲያን ዘመናዊ አስተዳደርን በማስፈን አሁን እየተፈጠሩ ያሉ እንደ አላግባብ የቤተ ክርስቲያን ስራ ቅጥር፤ ገንዘብ መባከን፤ሊቃውንት ተገቢ ቦታ አለማግኘትን፤ጎቦ፤እና ሙስናን የመሳሰሉ ነገሮችን ፈጽማ መቆጣጠር፣ ማረምና ማስወገድ ይኖርባታል።
5. ቤተ ክርስቲያን ሐዋርያዊ አገልግሎቷን ለራሷ ልጆች እየፈጸመች ቢሆንም እንኳን ከሀገራችን ውጭም ክርስትናውን ልታሳያቸው የሚገቡ ብዙ ሕዝቦች እና ሀገራት አሉ። በመሆኑም ቤተ ክርስቲያን ወንጌልን በሀገር ውስጥ በተጠናከረ መልኩ የምታስተምርበትን፣ ለውጭው ዓለምም ውጤት ያለው አገልግሎት አጠናክራ የምትጀምርበትን ሁኔታ ልታቅድ ይገባታል።
6. ቤተ ክርስቲያን በራሷ ውስጥ የሚከሰቱ ጉዳዮችን በጥልቀት የሚመለከት እና ተግባራዊ ስራ የሚሰራ የህግ ክፍል እንዲኖራት ያስፈልጋል። ይህም ቤተ ክርስቲያን ከውጭ አካላት የሚሰነዘርባትን ማነኛውም ዓይነት ችግር በባለቤትነት ተከታትሎ አግባብ ባለው ህግ ፊት መብቷን የሚያሰከበር ይሆናል።ከዚህም በተጨማሪ በአብያተ ክርስቲያናት፤ በማኀበራት፤ በቀሳውስት፤ በአጠቃላይ በቤተ ክርስቲያን አገልጋዮች መካከል የሚፈጠሩ ችግሮች በቤተ ክርስቲያን ውስጥ እንዲፈቱ መደረግ አለበት። ይህም የቤተ ክርስቲያንን ገመና በቤተ ክርስቲያን ውስጥ መጨረስ ያስችላል።
7. የቤተ ክርስቲያን አስተዳደርም ሆነ ስርዓታችን በየጊዜው ሃይማኖትን በማይቃረን መሰረት ሲኖዶስ እያየ ከጊዜው እና ከትውልዱ ጋር የሚሄድበትን መንገድ ማመቻቸት ይኖርበታል።
8. ከውስጥም ሆነ ከውጪ የሚጠየቁ ሃይማኖታዊ ጥያቄዎችን በአግባቡና በተደራጀ መልኩ ለመመለስ የሊቃውንት ጉባዔ እንዲጠናከር፤ የሊቃውንት ጉባዔም የቤተ ክርስቲያንን ትምህርተ ሃይማኖት፣ ሥርዓትና ትውፊት በግልጽ ለጠያቂዎች ሁሉ መመለስ እንዲችልና ተግባራዊ የሆነ ሥራ መሥራት እንዲችል እንዲደረግ፤ ማንኛውንም ሃይማኖት ነክ ጉዳዮች በተመለከተ በሙሉ ሥልጣን የሚወስንበት አሠራር እንዲመቻችለት፤ ጥናት የሚፈልጉ ሃይማኖታዊ ጉዳዮችን ማጥናት እንዲችልም ሁኔታዎች እንዲመቻቹለት እንጠይቃለን።
በጠቅላላው ቅድስት ቤተ ክርስቲያናችን ራሷን ችላ፣ ራሷን አስተዳድራ፣ የራሷን ችግር በራሷ ፈትታ የተሠማራችበትን ሃይማኖታዊና ማኀበራዊ ተልእኮ እንድትወጣ ቅዱስ ሲኖዶሱ ኃላፊነቱን በሙሉ ተረክቦ እንዲሠራ እንጠይቃለን።
እግዚአብሔር ሀገራችንንና ተዋሕዶ ሃይማኖታችንን ይጠብቅልን።
በተለያዩ የዓለም ክፍሎች የምንገኝ የኦርቶዶክስ ተዋሕዶ ምእመናን፣
ጥቅምት 6 ቀን 2002 ዓ.ም
ወስብሐት ለእግዚአብሔር

127 comments:

Anonymous said...

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Well done DS, it is great job. The next qs is how we sign the pitition, is there online petition websites?? If that is there it will make it very fast. I think there are some websites which give free petition, or some need some payment. Pls DS and other brothers and sisters, could make ready soon. Hard copy pitition is very difficult and time cuncumming.
I hope you will give us the procedures soon

Tekelbrihan

SendekAlama said...

Great job, but where is the place for us to sign the petition?

You can consider this:

http://www.petitiononline.com/create_petition.html

Anonymous said...

Great job! Please tell us how anonymous users can sign the petition?

Anonymous said...

That is a great petition that reflected heart beats of most Tewahedo followers! We are all ready to sign it once the means has been identified.

"He that has ears,let him hear"

I hope it will receive the attention it deserves most.

Awuko yetegnan bikesekisut... endayhonibin inji!!!!

Oh,Lord do not forsake Tewahedo and her faithful followers!

May the Holy Synode result in amicable but firm resolution!

Andu negn,
From Southern Africa

Anonymous said...

To last but one anonym,

Why should you have to sign it as anonymous user? To me that's meaningless. You should have identifiable username.

gorgoreyos said...

great petition!!! ABATOCH ebacachu TARIK seru.

Anonymous said...

Dear brothers and sisters in Christ,

First of all , in the name of the Living God, I would like to thank the people who create this spiritual idea, to be honest with you, this time is the right time for all of us to be united in order to protect our faith and our church from the hand of our enemy, So, this petition is really nice and helpful. In the name of our church, I strongly recommended to everyone to sing on it and support it. May the foundation and corner-stone of true Church ( Jesus Christ) will be among the holy synod of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahdo Chruch.

Debtraw said...

To DS: Great job!

You have begun the beginning work. Don't give up until the job is getting done. With the help of the Almighty, we all together must work hard until the mafias and wonbedewech get out of the church.

To brothers and sisters in Christ:

Let us all sign the petition and share the link below to fellow Christians to voice their voice.

Here is the link:

http://www.petitiononline.com/synod/petition.html


To Abatoch: Please listen to us. If you do, we will say thank you. If you don’t, we will never ever give up until we all see the hands of God in the church.

To menafikan and others: Please leave us alone. There are plenty of rooms in the wider world out there that pleases your ego.

samuel said...

May the Almighty GOD open the eyes of all of us to see and He may open our ear to hear. Base of this prayer or wish, maybe somebody will say” my eyes are seeing and my ears are also hearing and GOD already open them to see and hear. But we have to know this; we have physical and spiritual eyes and ears. I am sure. Most of our physical ears and eyes are open, but the question is what about our spiritual eyes and ears? Can they see and hear? If our spiritual eye is blind and our spiritual ear is deaf, we are now in big trouble and we can not understand each other and we can not see each other too. so, we have to ask the Almighty God the one who can open them. Saying that, our Lord God please give us the eyes of wisdom that they may always see you and please open our spiritual ears to hear only your word.

Brothers and sisters,

If you really believe in the Son of God named Jesus Christ and if you follow the teaching of the true Fathers who followed the divine teaching of the Son of the Living God, Please stop thinking about earthly and unlawful movement, speak out the truth and you have to follow it. You have to know it. Brothers and sisters let us kill the earthly desire of our heart, as you all know; we are born again from the Holy Spirit according to the holy gospel of Jesus Christ.
What I would like to recommend you is please sing of that petition.

May our Lord Jesus Christ will be among our Fathers during the meeting of the holy synod according to His promise.

Anonymous said...

Opts.... I don't why peoples have no patience to read all and see every detail....

the way how to sign the petition is written in bold and wide. Just follow the link and click on "sign the petition here" at the end of the html document.

Here is the link again just like others paste it. AGAIN

copy and paste this one:- http://www.petitiononline.com/synod/petition.html ..... and please read the document first.....

then copy and paste this one:- http://www.petitiononline.com/synod/petition-sign.html ....so that you sign the petition. Make sure that the petition is from "Deje Selam".

Emebirhan hulachinin tirdan!
Hayimanotachinin Betselot asibu!

Anonymous said...

Great job, DS!
I will sign in the petition.
Thanks a lot.

Anonymous said...

Ye mekebater gize yebka ye sera gize yjmer. Thank you DS for the hard work. Let kebatarioch yekebatru egna gin tenesten ya amlakachin bet enseral! Enatsedalen!May the God of Abrham be with us.

tad said...

I am going to sign this petition for the sake of showing solidarity with fellow brothers and sisters who are praying hard to see the resurrection of our EOC. I know this letter is not going anywhere as I have no confidence in the 80% of the bishops.But my confidence in Almighty who dwell in EOC is by greater than any limitations.Trust in God and sign the petition.

Anonymous said...

Thanks DJ
I signed the petition.
God Bless our Church

Ze Debre Zeit Kidus Rufael said...

Good job, Deje Selam,

But can u send this news to other news papers so that everybody in Ethiopia can have good understanding and know how of it.

There are bunch of online newspapers on the web and dozens of published newspapers in the country. I wish if u guys try to disseminate the news through these electronic and print medias.

Ze Dima Giorgis said...

Wow Deje selam, U pinpointed the target. Thank u for your effort in doing so.

The problem is how many of the citizen do have awareness about this petition. We need to disseminate this petition news every where.

I think Radio also can help. Is there a possibility to make Radio interview with VOA Amaharic, Oromifa and Tigrigna service. I think by doing so , you can reach more audience.

Can you work with Mahibere kidusan? I hope Mk do have pool of e mail list of its members. Can u ask Mk to cooperate u on this regard.

Anonymous said...

ልዑል፡እግዚአብሔር፡

ለበጎ፡ሥራ፡የደከሙትንና፥አሁንም፡በመድከም፡
ላይ፡የሚገኙትን፡የተዋሕዶ-ኢትዮጵያ፡ልጆች፡

ይባርክልን!ደግሞም፡ደጋግሞም፡ይባርክልን!የዚህ
ን፡የተቀደሰ፡አቤቱታም፡አስደሳች፡ውጤት፡ለመስማ
ት፡ያብቃን!አሜን።

የቀደምት፡አባቶቻችን፡አምላክ፡ተዋሕዶ፡ኦርቶ
ዶክስ፡እምነታችንንና፡እናት፡አገራችንን፡እትዮ
ጵያን፡ይጠብቅልን!ይታደግልን!አሜን።

በቅዱስ፡ረድዔቱ፡ከሁላችን፡ይሁን! አሜን።

ሳሙኤል፡ዘአሰቦት።

Anonymous said...

To DS;
Eventhough I support the idea of reaching out to some media groups, it better not involve MK in this as MK itself is going through some soul searching situation.
Thanks

Anonymous said...

ደጀ ሰላም ልክ የኢትዮጵጵያ ቴሌቪዥን መሰለ የአንድ ወገን አስተያየት ብቻ የሚያስተናግድ

Anonymous said...

Here is a quote from voice of treachery and betrayal:
"To DS;
Eventhough I support the idea of reaching out to some media groups, it better not involve MK in this as MK itself is going through some soul searching situation.
Thanks October 16, 2009"

Shame on such disgusting thoughts of treachery! It is not Mahiber Qidusan, but those who are trying to destroy the EOTC who are now "going through saul searching" for the damages and betrayal they have committed against our Church!

Your's is the vpoice of a zebach menafiq. The fire of Judgement is on you! Your's is the best example of "YeAzo Enba"!

May Almighty God damn all foes of our Tewahedo-Orthodox Church and it's doctrines!

Anonymous said...

ሰይፈ ገብርኤል said:

"ደጀ ሰላም ልክ የኢትዮጵጵያ ቴሌቪዥን መሰ
ለ የአንድ ወገን አስተያየት ብቻ የሚያስተናግድ October 16, 2009"

ለመናፍቃን ያላቸው አማራጭ ወደራሳቸው የጥ
ፋት ጎራ ተሰባስቦ የፓስተሮቻችሁን ትምህርተ
ግብረ ሶዶም መከታተል ነው!

ገዥዎቻችሁ ምን የብጥበጣ ትእዛዝ ለሚቀጥለው ማወናበጃችሁ አዘጋጅተው ይሆን?!እነ አይታክቱ
ቤልዘቡብ የማይቀይሱት ዘዴ የለ...!

ሰይፈ ገብርኤል!

Orthodox unit said...

Let God help us in full filling what we are dreaming for.Let us do what ever we can so that every body is aware of this thing.

Let us try if we can announce it over VOA and other medias. Even with Ethiopian Medias where our people can access.

Let God gave us United Heart in Serving your church

Anonymous said...

Thank you DS. I signed and I transfered to more than 50 members of EOTC available in my Email contact. Bu who is summited this petition for Holy Synode?

Ze zeway Gedam

Anonymous said...

To ann:
Any one who compromised truth for money is souless. Mk had been the sole supporter of Abba Paulos and Yared for 17yrs.They were calling him the legitimate Patriarch and fighting for him with weyane tugs until everything fell apart last may.Had they been relied on the truth rather than their secular systematic approach, they couldn't have been souless by now. If you are one of the souless individual get one by coming to the truth and light.Because you call some one heretic it doesn't mean he is. St.Paul was called heretic.

John Ze Baptist said...

Last Anonymous, what is the important of talking about MK or whatever here? We already agreed days ago not to put unrelated issues in this blog. So let us work for unity and for strengthening our petition here. If you don't agree leave it. Let us not create antagonism here and there. Otherwise, this is indicating that there are mindless people with us.

Melkamu said...

Well done, DS! This sort of action is needed these days. Showing solidarity in a common voice is very important.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Dejeselam,

Could you give us an insight on how and when this signed petition is going to reach the Holy Synod? Is there a minimum number of signatures expected to have an impact?

What is being done by Dejeselam and Dejeselamawiyan to disseminate the information to reach as many people as possible? I have sent out the link to the contacts of people I know are concerned?

Thank you,

Tariku

Orthodox unit said...

My opinion is:

The petition have to be delivered to the Synod before or during the meeting of the Holy Synod this month (TIKIMT). However we don't have to limit the number. Let us have as much people as we can that could be in thousands or ten thousands. But let us inform every one who can sign.

Anonymous said...

ማህበረ ቅዱሳን ወደ ወያኔነት ተቀየረ ይህ እንግዲህ ቤ/ክር/ንን እና መንግሥትን ማስተዳደር አለብን እያለ የሚረብሸን
በዚች ዌሳይት እንኳ እነተስፋን ማስተናገድ መቋቋም ያልቻለ ደካም ማህበር ነው በተለይ የተስፋን ጽሑፎች ወዲያው ጠርጎ ያወጣቸዋል የተስፋ ጽሁፎች እውነትን ያዘሉ ነበሩ

Anonymous said...

the last anonymous

human being is different from animals b/c human can think. so plaese make your mind to think before you speak.

Anonymous said...

Dear All,
Is this really written by the Orthodox people for good reason?. Or it it written by non-orthodox to put a wise criticism on our Church?

We need to pray for the unity of the Church, the bishops, and our country. if we do this, i belive God will solve all of these problems.

Wolde HAyk Estifanos said...

SPIRITUAL PARASITES

to Kebertew, Hilina ...
Tesfa, it seems that u prefered to write with these names gain.

I have never and ever heared you saying anyting constructive about our church .In all your comments however, you write something about Mahibere Kidusan.

And do ypou know what i feel about you? You are SPRITUAL PARASITE. MR SPIRITUAL PARASITE , would you please let us discuss about the petition?

Anonymous said...

To Deje Selam blogger,

I think you are trying to deal with the evil-minded the wrong way( I stand to be corrected!) because your response will entertain them. In most cases leading to distracting dialogues.
Just don't comment on their posts. You are rather requested to kindly dispose their "poison" as promptly as possible.
Don't expect them to stop posting as long as you respond or comment on their posts. It is no surprise to find "Dikala among Bakela"!

May God bless your service!

Tariku negn.

Anonymous said...

የጥፋት፡ልጆች፡ጩኸትና፡ክስ፡ያው፡ያባታቸው፡
ስለሆነ፥ፈጽሞ፡አለተደንቅንም፡አሁንምበምታ
ስተጋቡት፡"ውንጀላ"!ምኅበረ፡ቅዱሳንን፡የምት
ገዳደሩት፡የተዋሕዶን፡ልጆች፡እንዳትውጡ፡ታላ
ቅ፡እንቅፋት፡ስለሆነባችሁ፡ነው።

ውጉዝ፡የሆነውን፡ስራችሁን፡በያለበት፡በትምህር
ተ፡ወንጌል፥በግንባታና፡በተከታታይ፡ትግል፡እ
ናንተ፡ያፈረሳችሁትን፡መልሶ፡በመገንባት፡የሚ
ያደርገው፡ክርስቲያናዊ፡ትጋት፥አርበደብዳችኋ
ል፤አስደነግጣችኋል።

ከደጃችን፡ሂዱ፥አትበጥብጡን፡የሚለው"የኢት
ዮጵያ፡ተዋህዶ፡ሕዝበ፡ክርስቲያን፡ድምጽ፥በማ
ኅበረ፡ቅዱሳን፡ሥራና፡ንቃት፡የመላበት፡ሃይማ
ኖታዊ፡ሥነ፡ምግባር፡ይመሰላል፤ይተረጎማል።

አሁንም፡ተዉን!አትተንኩሱን!
ወግዱልን፡እንላለን!

መድኅኔ፡ዓለም፡ክርስቶስ፡ተዋህዶ-ኢትዮጵያን፡
ከአውሬውና፡መልእክተኞቹ፡ዘመቻ፡ያድናት!
ያድነን!አሜን።

ሳሙኤል ዘአሰቦት።

Anonymous said...

የተሰፋ ሀሳብ ማሕበሩ የሰበስበውን ጉባአ መበተን መሆኑነ አንርሳ።
ተሰፋ ተስፋሕነ ቁረጥ።

yetsyon said...

Based on the pattern of his arguments, and the patter of drawing conclusion as well as from his selecetion of words, I can safely argue that Tesfa is actually Aba Wolde Tensae

John Ze Baptist said...

Yetson, I don't think Tesfa is Aba Wolde Tensae. Of Course Tesfa said that he is priest but I don't think aba w/Tensae is this much devated from truth. His teaching are good(for me) and he seems who have good vision for the church. But Tesfa is full of hate and is against the church in every aspect of his thought.He is one of the people who have already gone to protestants. May be Yonas (former aba) but he cannot argue this much as I have information about him.

But I don't worry about the person, what we should worry about is the idea.

Kaleb Nerayo said...

ውኃ ከምንጩ ነገር ከባለ ቤቱ!

“ማኅበረ ቅዱሳን” በጅማ ከተማና አከባቢዎችዋ ላይ የሆነውን አስመልክቶ በስምዓ ሐሰት ልሳኑ የዘገበውን ዘገባ ማኅበሩ ሙሉውን የዘገባው ይዘት፦

ከማን አገኘው?
እንዴትስ ሊያገኘው ቻለ?

ለምንስ በስርቆት ያገኘውን ዘገባ ከቅድስት ቤ/ያን ውጪ ለመዘገብ ፈጠነ?

FROM www.thetruthfighter.net

SendekAlama said...

So, what is new this is the problem of MK it not our foult we are not saying Mk is comletly perfect. same times it can happen they are human biengs.

Anonymous said...

ya, great job mem!Mk is thief.

Anonymous said...

People stay focused!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ze Sirinka said...

The funny Tesfa welcome back again,
Still u are against Mk. Now it seems that u have changed ur strategy. U are telling us how MK spies secretly “ steal “ the video records of Jimma Massacre. Now I am understood how much ignorant u are about MK. Do u think that Mk got information of Muslim fundamentalist from Jimmas massacre.

To ur surprise Mk knows much more detail than this. I am not from the info department of Mk. But I do have friends,MK members and who are working on this. Let me tell u what they know, partly.

I know Mk guys were following The Abuja Conference which was held in Nigeria to Islamize Africa and particularly Ethiopia. Ask them they will give u detail intelligence information Tesfa

I know MK guys were watching an internationalist organization aspiring for the spread the Islamic revolution called "Islamic Arab Popular Conference " which was established in Khartoum in the early summer 1991 with Turabi as the permanent leader .Imbued with the ideas of al-Takfir, Hijra, ad Dawa and Jihad, they are committed to promote by all necessary means , including the Jihad, or religious war, the causes of the Islamic revolution. Among the immediate targets were … Somalia, Djibouti and principally Ethiopia.Read paper about Islamic Arab popular conference. Or ask MK to give u the detail info

I know Mk guys do have the copy of the strategy of Mohamed Gadafi to Islamize Ethiopia .By the way refer the The London based Islamic Watch October/November 1992 which alleges: "Col. Ghadafi is reported to be financing a plan to turn Ethiopia into an exclusively Islamic country by the end of the century.And ask Mk guys to get the copy of Gadafis report

I also know Mk was closely watching fundamentalist movement in Ethiopia which was moving in four ways : The Sudan Gondar route, The Somali Ogaden Route, The Saudi financed Wahabiy movement in central Ethiopia , The Djibouti-Chifra Mile movment .Let me give u little hint.

Go back and read Saudi Wahabiya movement and its huge money supply to corrupt officials in the expose the secret connection of Saudi Arabia and Wahabist in Ethiopia and the activity and the threat of Wahabists in Ethiopia and the huge money(4million Saudi Riyal) that is been used to corrupt officials and citizens in Ethiopia to advance Wahabism in the illegal way.//-// Read the Amharic script with Ge’ez font posted in ENH originally published by Reporter news paper in Tahassas 19/1996.

Have u heared about other Muslim organizations in Ethiopia. One is called the “Ansoire Sura Association of Ethiopia"-ASAE presided by a “Christian” convert from Arsi, Ustaz Ahmed Alfaqir’a who had attended a three month course in the Sudan ( in the Islamic revolution camps).Read CIA reports.

Do u have any information of Jihad in Gondar . Read the web link which I pasted u hereunder. http://www.esai.org/myESAi/viewtopic-t-9430.html amazingly i know Mk guys do have detailed info on each and every aspect. I could have told u many.

BUT DON’T THINK SO THAT MK IS AN ORGANIZATION WHICH STEALS VIDEO CASEETE FROM SOMEBODY TO KNOW ABOUT FUNDAMENTALIST MOVEMENT.THEY KNOW FROM THE VERYDETAL ABOUT THESE FUNDAMETALISTS ORIGIN UPUNTILL THEIR FUTURE PLAN .

ye MK tera abal negn ke America said...

Live alone Tesfa, he is talking in his capacity.

Hey guys, why not you leave Tesfa. He is thinking in his capacity. He cannot undestand the way how Mk operates .

The first place, Tesfa still couldnt understand that there is Gods plan at the back of MK. Tefsa, believe it or not, Saint Marry is there at the back of MK. It is Gods wish to organize Ethiopin youth to safeguard The Apostlic Church.

The second thing you have to know is , MK do have many thousands of members in the worlds best places of civilization. You can find many soft ware engineers in Microsoft, redmond,USA. By the way do u know Microsoft, it is the fountainhead of "intelligence Technology".If you go to Calfornis like silicon Valley, Google , Yahoo company u can find significant number of Mk memebers. You know what this comapnies are , i hope. If u again go to Florida, NASA, still they are there. Anyaways, go to east, go to west, go to south, go to North, there is Mk in every part of this world .

So dont think so that MK is ignorant of each movement which are against our Church. All the memebers are ready and ready 24 hours to defend our Apostlic church in every regard: be it finace, wisdom, knwowledge and etc.

Tesfa( Mulugeta) know about this association first. Mk trusts in God. Saint Marry is the patron of this association. We are proud we all belive on the intercession of all the Saints. Beside that we work hard for the survival of our church despite the huge pressure Our church is facing from different enemies like u. God make us many , gave us every wisdom on this earth, disperse us on every corner of the world .

Where ever we are, we all are one inspirit, dedicated to serve our church .

ke Mk Abal andu negn ke hagere America

ከደብረ ዘይት said...

አስቲ ንገሩት
1. ስለ ጭፍራ የጀሀዲስቶቸ አንቅስቃሲ ታውቃለሀ
2. ስለ ጎንደር የጀሀዲስቶቸ መረጃ አለሀ
3. አዲሰ አበባ ስላለው ሰውር የጀሀዲስቶቸ አንቅስቃሰስ ታውቃለሀ
4. በየ ክፍለ አለሙ የሚካሂዱትን የጀሀዲስቶቸ ( ኢትዮጵያን ለማሰለም)ስብስባስ ታውቃለሀ
5. በደቡብና በምስራቅ ኢትዮጵያ የሚካሂዱትን የጀሀዲስቶቸ አንቅስቃሰስ ታውቃለሀ
6. ተሰፋ ብዙ የማታውቃችው ጉዳዮቸ አሉ።ከምታሰበው በላይ መረጃ ያለበት አለ። ገባህ።

ከደብረ ዘይት

Alem said...

selam
Selam this petetion cann't open ,i mean when we try to post in paltalk rooms it couldn't open.please tell us how it works.
Egizabher yistlghn

Orthodox unit said...

Dear Alem please click “ፔቲሽን” or copy and paste http://www.petitiononline.com/synod/petition.html on the address of explorer you use to get the form. Once you get the page click "Sign the Petition" button. Then type your name and email address on the text boxes given there. Finally Click on "Sign the Petition" Button that will add your petition.

If you are not ok, just post message, I will follow and help you.

Anonymous said...

"Saint Marry is the patron of this association." ye MK tera abal negn ke America

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Gedamu said...

ውኃ ከምንጩ ነገር ከባለ ቤቱ!

“ማኅበረ ቅዱሳን” በጅማ ከተማና አከባቢዎችዋ ላይ የሆነውን አስመልክቶ በስምዓ ሐሰት ልሳኑ የዘገበውን ዘገባ ማኅበሩ ሙሉውን የዘገባው ይዘት፦

ከማን አገኘው?
እንዴትስ ሊያገኘው ቻለ?

ለምንስ በስርቆት ያገኘውን ዘገባ ከቅድስት ቤ/ያን ውጪ ለመዘገብ ፈጠነ?

FROM www.thetruthfighter.net

Demeke said...

ውኃ ከምንጩ ነገር ከባለ ቤቱ!

“ማኅበረ ቅዱሳን” በጅማ ከተማና አከባቢዎችዋ ላይ የሆነውን አስመልክቶ በስምዓ ሐሰት ልሳኑ የዘገበውን ዘገባ ማኅበሩ ሙሉውን የዘገባው ይዘት፦

ከማን አገኘው?
እንዴትስ ሊያገኘው ቻለ?

ለምንስ በስርቆት ያገኘውን ዘገባ ከቅድስት ቤ/ያን ውጪ ለመዘገብ ፈጠነ?

FROM www.thetruthfighter.net

Dera Chewetaw said...

አንደኛ መንፈሳዊ ኮሌጁ የቅድስት ቤተ-ክርስትያናችን የበላይ ከሆነው አካል ከቅዱስ ሲኖዶስና ከአባቶች ጋር የሚያጣላና የቤተክርስትያኒትዋ ሥርዓትና ትውፊት ባልጠበቀ መልኩ የኮሌጁ ደቀ-መዛሙርት እንዲንቀሳቀሱ የሚጋብዝ ነበር። አባቶችም ሆኑ ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ በኮሌጁ ደስ አለመሰኘት ማለት ለማኅበረ ቅዱሳን የሚፈጥረው ፍጹም ደስታ በቃላት ተጽፎ የሚዘለቅ አይደለም።

Ø ሁለተኛ ይቅር ምክንያት ተገኝቶ እንዲሁ ኮሌጁን በአይነቁራኛ ከሚመለከተው ከገዢ ፓርቲ (ከመንግሥት) ኮሌጁን ማጣላትና የኮሌጁ ደቀ-መዛሙርትም ሆኑ ኮሌጁ ክፉኛ ለመጉዳት።

Ø ሦስተኛ ተማሪውን ወጥ የሆነ አቋም እንዳይኖረው በዘርና በጎሳ የሚከፋፍል ሃሳብ ነበር ያቀረበው።

www.thetruthfighter.net

John Ze Baptist said...

For me as far as the news is true, I don't mind who disclosed it. And I hope there is no any benefit that will be obtained (either by MK or any other body in the church) except helping the victims.

However the source it is usually good to have the information from the source. As said the source of the information could be either MK or College Students (God knows). Please don't give response to this man. There is no need. The news was true and we were very sad at that time. Let us do all our best in the future.

Just ignore the past!!

Shemels said...

who is tesfa? did same one knows him personally? Ds(ye MK tera abal negn ke America, Ze Sirinka) are you crazy? what is your proof to say the so called Dn. Mulugeta is tesfa ...? what is your froof can you show us your evidence? please try to came to your mind. this indicates that the so called Decon is a winner over this blog and the reporters of Ds. we are not kids this is a gossip!

Debteraw said...

who is tesfa? did same one knows him personally? Ds(ye MK tera abal negn ke America, Ze Sirinka) are you crazy? what is your proof to say the so called Dn. Mulugeta is tesfa ...? what is your froof can you show us your evidence? please try to came to your mind. this indicates that the so called Decon is a winner over this blog and the reporters of Ds. we are not kids this is a gossip!

Meklit said...

who is tesfa? did same one knows him personally? Ds(ye MK tera abal negn ke America, Ze Sirinka) are you crazy? what is your proof to say the so called Dn. Mulugeta is tesfa ...? what is your froof can you show us your evidence? please try to came to your mind. this indicates that the so called Decon is a winner over this blog and the reporters of Ds. we are not kids this is a gossip!

Abunu said...

Sure i don't think so this will be a Christianity in my side i don't him face to face this boy even i am not sure this person can attend this site or not. so beloved brothers and sisters until we cant get any concrete evidence about Mulugeta weather he is participant or not on this blogg salience is the better action.

Anonymous said...

who is tesfa? did same one knows him personally? Ds(ye MK tera abal negn ke America, Ze Sirinka) are you crazy? what is your proof to say the so called Dn. Mulugeta is tesfa ...? what is your froof can you show us your evidence? please try to came to your mind. this indicates that the so called Decon is a winner over this blog and the reporters of Ds. we are not kids this is a gossip!

Anonymous said...

ጥያቄ ለማህበረ ቅዱሳን
1ኛ አቡነ ቴዎፍሎስን ያስገደሉ ሰዎች የናንተ አባል ለምን ሆኑ?
2ኛ የአጼ ዘር ዓ ያዕቆብን ነፍሰ ገዳይነት የምትሸፋፍኑት ለምንድን ነው?
3ኛ አቡነ ጎርጎርዮስ ቀዳማዊን ማን ገደላቸው? የመኪና አደጋውን ያቀነባበረው ማን ነው?
4ኛ የዲማ ጊዮርጊስ መርጌታን ዘሚካኤልን ዓዲስ ዓለም ማርያም ስብሰባ ወስዶ መርዞ የገደለው ማን ነው?
5ኛ የመቀሌ ሥራ አስኪያጅ የነበረውን ክንፈ ሚካኤልን ወደ ጋንቤላ ከተቀየረ በኋላ ማን ገደለው የመኪና አደጋው በማን ተቀናበረ ከሱ ጋርስ የነበራችሁ ክርክር ምንድን ነው?
6ኛ ጽጌ ስጦታውና ግርማ በቀለ እንዲገደሉ የተወሰነው ከማን ቤት ነበር?
7ኛ በኢትዮጵያ ታሪክ የደም አፍሳሽነት ታሪክ ያለው ንጉሥ
በርካታ መነኮሳትን በሳት ያቃጠለ አሁን በቤ/ክርስቲያኒቱ ቅዱስ ተብሎ በ ዓል የሚከበርለትን ሰው ለምን ትመኩበታላችሁ?
8ኛ የኢትዮጵያ ብሔራዊ እርቅ ሲደረግ ይቅርታ ከሚጠይቁ ድርጅቶች ኢሀአፓን ወያኔን ኦነገን ኦብነግን ጨምሮ አንዱ ማሕበረ ቅዱሳን ሊሆን አይችልም ወይ? ማህበረ ቅዱሳን ይቅርታ ካልጠየቀስ በኢትዮጵያ እውነተኛ እርቅ እንዴት ሊኖር ይችላል?

Anonymous said...

ለተዋህዶ ልጆች በሙሉ፤

ፐቲሽኑን ከዚሀ በታች ከሚገኘው አድራሻ
በፒዴኤፍ ማግኘት ይቻላል።


http://www.ethioforum.org/wp/pdf/LeE.O.T._B_KN_Qidus_Synodos_
Yemiqerb_YeHizbe_Kristian_Abietuta.pdf

ላልሰሙ እናሰማ!

የጥፋት መልእክተኞች እጅጉን እየተቅበዘበዙ መሆናቸውን ልብ እንበል!ተደናግጠዋል!

የማይችሉት እሳት እየነደደባቸው መሆኑን እንረዳ።አውሬው እየተመታ መሆኑን እንወቅ!

የኛ መበርታትና ሥራችንን መሥራት
አሁንም፥እንደገና አሁንም እጥፍ ድርብ ይሁን!

በርትተን አቤቱታችንን ለኢትዮጵያ ተዋሕዶ ኦርቶዶክስሕዝበ ክርስቲያንም እናዳርስ።

የዚህ የተቀደሰ ጥረት ደጋፊና ተገን
እራሱ ማድኅኔ ዓለም ስለሆነ፥ ሁሉም
በእርሱ ፈቃድ የፈጸም ዘንድ በጸሎትም፡እንትጋ!!!

የአባታችን የአባ ተክለ ሃይማኖት አምላክ፡
እግዚእነ ኢየሱስ ክርስቶስ
በያለንበት ይጠብቀን!
ያበርታን!!አሜን።

Anonymous said...

An earnest appeal to Dejeselamawiyan!

Please could you stop commenting on any post made by "Ewnetu" and his hosts? Regardless of the points you are trying to make to them, their mind is totally blocked to the truth. It doesn't change them; their objective is one and only one,i.e, spreading heresies. Why waste your time and also distract other people's attention. Please,Please make no comment on such posts and let Deje Selam help us clearing their evil posts.

Ye Kidusan Amlak ayileyen!

Tariku

Ye MK Tera Abal Ke USA said...

ያአባቱን ታሪክ የማያውቅ ዲቃላ
የአጼ ዘርዓ ያዕቆብን ለዘለፍከው ከንቱ የተሰጠ መልሰ
ከዘርዓ ያዕቆብ

“2ኛ የአጼ ዘር ዓ ያዕቆብን ነፍሰ ገዳይነት የምትሸፋፍኑት ለምንድን ነው?”anonymous
“7ኛ በኢትዮጵያ ታሪክ የደም አፍሳሽነት ታሪክ ያለው ንጉሥ
በርካታ መነኮሳትን በሳት ያቃጠለ አሁን በቤ/ክርስቲያኒቱ ቅዱስ ተብሎ በ ዓል የሚከበርለትን ሰው ለምን ትመኩበታላችሁ?” anonymous

Who isThe greatest kings of kings Zerayakob?

Zerayakob is the son of King David, who brought us the cross in which Christ was crucified. He was also the student of the great thgeologian Aba Giorgis Ze Gascha.

During the time of Zerayakob, enemiesof the church have used all their power to divide , weaken and destroy Ethiopian Orthodox Church. But thanks for Zerayakob, he protected the church from these herestics. let me list some of them

1. Sabbath ( senbet ) celebration and its aftermath. During his time,there had been dispute over sabbath celebration.One gruop was advocating for sunday and the other group was advocating the celebration of both saturday and sunday. Jewish Christians ( felashas) were also claing Judaistic way of ecelebration. The church was on the verge of split. Even two school of theological thought were emerging : commonly called BeteEwestatios and Bete tekle Haymanot.

2.Also during his reign a hereistic man called Estifanos started teaching new doctrines and dogmas which he accepted it from western missionaries.

3. There were also groups which call them selves Michaelawian . They also promoted Jewish Type of theology.

4.idol worship and practice were creating disturbance in the palace .

ZERAYAKOBS RESPONSE.

1. To settle the issue of Sabbath observance he assembled a church council in The Monastery of Debe Mitmak,Shoa with Abuna Michael, Abuna Gabriel,Abots of Debra Hayk, Debre Libanos, Debre Bizen,Debre Maryam, Debre Damo and many other monasteries. He solved it taught that the wto sabbath must be observed in Christain way by quoting Mattew 5:17 and by mentioning apostlic teachings from Didisklia chapter 38 .He also wrote the marvelous book METSHAFE BIRHAN.

2. He also called Estifanos the herestic and advised him discuss his new doctrine with the fathers . All the fathers told him that he was wrong and he couldnt protect and defend his teaching. But he finally betrayed the Mount zion and he was flogged for his deception and sent to exile.

3. He also systematically handled the new herestics of Michaelawyan . Their base was so frajile and shaking .They were also stopped .

4. He also found one of his son following idol worshiping in his own palace. he didnt refrain from punishing his own son. he flogged his own son in front of the mass to teach others.

5. He also requested cairo for two bishops since one was not enough for the Great Ethiopia. and during his time there were two pops: Abuna Michael and Abuna Gabriel

6. He also has founded many monasteries and churches. Like for example he founded Debre Mitmak monastery , changed the name of Debre Asbo to dDebre Libanos and gave huge gift for the monastery and organized this monastery Debre Libanos.

7. The celebration of Meskel was also more glorified by his time.

THE PARADOX
So i want to ask one question. who hates King Zerayakob the great. A true Orthodox Tewahido follower or enemy of orthodox.


Those who are against monasteries like Debre Libanos, Debre Mitmak,and etc may write something bad against him. But true Orthodox Tewahido follower never forgets his effort .

I could have written many pages about the golden king Zerayakob. But this is blog and the space is limited.

Since his time onwards there are two camps in Ethiopia: one who is trying his best to maintain the historic church, pass it to generation and the other who always aspires to split the church and sell it to non orthodox camp. the fight still continues.

We are from differet camps.ZERAYAKOBAWYAN Vs DeKIke Estifa. no wonder if the followers of Estifanos accuse MK .

Ye MK Tera Abal Kehagere America

tesfayekukush@yahoo.com

tesfa said...

ዛሬ ደጀሰላምን ስከፍት አስተያየቶች ሁሉ ስለኔ የተጻፉ ናቸው
እኔ እኮ አንድ ምስኪን ሰው ነኝ ለምን በቤ/ክር/ችግር ላይ አንወያይም? የቤ/ክር/ንን ችግር መጋፈጥ ሲከብዳችሁ ከኔ ጋር ትታገላላችሁ
የኔ ዋና ጥያቄ የቤ/ችግር ማህበረ ቅዱሳን ያየው የአስተዳደር ችግር ብቻ አይደለም መጻሕፍቶቻችንም ይፈተሹ በጣም የሚያሳፍሩ ናቸው እነሱ ካልታረሙ ወደፊትም እንደ አባ ጳውሎስ ያለ ሰው ይፈጥሩብናል አጥርተን እንጓዝ ነው ያልሁት ማህበረ ቅዱሳንን የምቃወመው በአንድ ዓይኑ ብቻ ስለሚያይ፤ የራሱን አጀንዳ ብቻ እየተመለከተ ለምን ያሳድደናል? ችግራችን የጋራ ሆኖ እያለ እኛን እንደጠላት ለምን ያየናል?ነው እኔ ግን ወያኔን፤ ኦነግን፤ኢሃአፓን ቢሆን የፈጠሯቸው ድርሳኖቻችን ናቸው አሁን ደግም ማህበረ ቅዱሳንን ፈጠሩ እባካችሁ ሰውን ማስወገድ ትተን የምናስወግደው ብዙ ነገር አለ ነው ያልሁት

በርግጥ እዝህ ብሎግ ላይ አትሳተፍ የምትሉኝ ከሆነ ከዚህ በኋላ አታገኙኝም

ወይም ስለፍቅር ብቻ አጽፋለሁ

ledenzazaw menafik said...

"8ኛ የኢትዮጵያ ብሔራዊ እርቅ ሲደረግ ይቅርታ ከሚጠይቁ ድርጅቶች ኢሀአፓን ወያኔን ኦነገን ኦብነግን ጨምሮ አንዱ ማሕበረ ቅዱሳን ሊሆን አይችልም ወይ? ማህበረ ቅዱሳን ይቅርታ ካልጠየቀስ በኢትዮጵያ እውነተኛ እርቅ እንዴት ሊኖር ይችላል?" anonymous


ወቸው ጉድ!!!! ማህበረ ቅዱሳን ለምን ያባቶቸን ሃይማኖት ለመናፍቅ ኧ ልሰጠሁም ብሎ መናፍቃንን ነው ይቅርታ የሚጠይቀው????? ቀልደኛ ነህና።

ደንዛዛ መናፍቅ።

ለአይሁዱ ሊቀካሀን ዘ 8ኛው ሽህ said...

ጥያቄ ለማህበረ ቅዱሳን ትብለው የተጣፉትን 8ቱን የ አይሁድ ክሶች አየናቸው ።
ወይነ ልቦለድ መጣፍ ጎበዝ ነህና። የ አይሁድ ክሶች አንደገና :: በ8ኛው ሽሕ ሲደገም።

Keldegnaw said...

"3ኛ አቡነ ጎርጎርዮስ ቀዳማዊን ማን ገደላቸው? የመኪና አደጋውን ያቀነባበረው ማን ነው?"
"4ኛ የዲማ ጊዮርጊስ መርጌታን ዘሚካኤልን ዓዲስ ዓለም ማርያም ስብሰባ ወስዶ መርዞ የገደለው ማን ነው?"
"1ኛ አቡነ ቴዎፍሎስን ያስገደሉ ሰዎች የናንተ አባል ለምን ሆኑ?"


ወይ ጉድ ኧረ ግራኝ አህመድም የማህበሩ አባል ሳይሆን አይቀርም።
ቂቂቂ

Anonymous said...

ምን አሱ ብቻ

ኢትዮጵያን መነኮሳት በመርዝ የደበደቡት የጣልያን ፓይለቶች የማህበረ ቅዱሳን አባል ሳይሆኑ አይቀሩም።

Anonymous said...

"በርግጥ እዝህ ብሎግ ላይ አትሳተፍ
የምትሉኝ ከሆነ ከዚህ በኋላ አታገኙኝ
ም ወይም ስለፍቅር ብቻ አጽፋለሁ"

መጣጥፍህን እዛው "ትሩዝ ፋይተር" ለምትባ
ባሉት አካፍላቸው።ከተዋህዶ እምነት ውጪ ያላችሁ በመሆናችሁ፣ድንበራችንን አትለፉ!
አትድረሱብን እንልላችኋለን!!!ከናንተ ምንም መስማት ስለማንፈልግ፣ይገባችሁ እንደሁ በኛ
በኩል ወግዱልን ካልን ቆይተናል!ሰው ጓዳ መ
ርመስመስ ምን የባላል?!

Anonymous said...

"መጻሕፍቶቻችንም ይፈተሹ በጣም የሚያሳፍሩ ናቸው" ተስፋ
ተስፋ ለኛ
ደግሞ መጻሕፍቶቻችን
የሚያኮሩ ናቸው።ድርሳናቱ ገድላቱ ወዘተ ።

tazabi said...

"ለምን በቤ/ክር/ችግር ላይ አንወያይም? የቤ/ክር/ንን ችግር መጋፈጥ ሲከብዳችሁ ከኔ ጋር ትታገላላችሁ
የኔ ዋና ጥያቄ የቤ/ችግር ማህበረ ቅዱሳን ያየው የአስተዳደር ችግር ብቻ አይደለም መጻሕፍቶቻችንም ይፈተሹ በጣም የሚያሳፍሩ ናቸው እነሱ ካልታረሙ ወደፊትም እንደ አባ ጳውሎስ ያለ ሰው ይፈጥሩብናል አጥርተን እንጓዝ ነው ያልሁት" tesfa

ወይ ጉድ አሁን ደሞ መጻሕፍቶቻችን ላይ ዞርክ።
ወይ ጉድ አሁን ደሞ መጻሕፍቶቻችን ላይ ዞርክ።
ወይ ጉድ አሁን ደሞ መጻሕፍቶቻችን ላይ ዞርክ።

Anonymous said...

ወንድማችን ተስፋ በተናገርከው መሰረት እዚህ ብሎግ ላይ አትጻፍ።ሌላ ብሎግ ክፈትና እንገናኛለን።ስንሰናበትህ በደስታ ነው

Anonymous said...

some of the writer are distributing Nufake.why many of us wasting our Golden time by reading their wrong teaching.We should concern on the issue of Ethiopian orthodox tewahido churcu and its problem.

gorgoreyos said...

tesfa anfelghim gedel geba sedbehi sidb atalmden!!!

Temelkach said...

በናታችሁ ተስፋ ይኑር።መናፍቃን ምን ያህል ማህበሩን ጠምደው አንደያዙት የምናይበት መስታውት ነው።በተስፋ ጥሁፍ ውስጥ መናፍቃንን በደምብ ማየት ይቻላልና።

Anonymous said...

Dear Deje Selamawian - thanks for your work. But I believe Christ is missing from the church because of MK. The Holy Spirit is not happy about the church, with our the Holy Spirit the church is cold. All Awald (gedlat) are full of errors need to destroy all of the books we don't even need them for museum, they are full of mergems.

ዘይገርም said...

እኔ የምለው አንድ ተስፋ ብቻ ነው ብላችሁ ታስባላችሁ ይህንን ኑፋቄ የሚጽፈው? በፍጹም! መናፍቃን በሙሉ የሚጽፉበት ስም ነው። ስሙ እራሱ ኢትዮጵያንና የኢትዮጵያን ቤተክርስቲያን እናጠፋለን ብለው ስለሚያልሙ “ተስፋ” ብለው የሰየሙት ይመስለኛል።

አንድ መናፍቅ ብቻ ይሄን ያህል ሊጽፍ አይችልም። ወይንም ለድርጅታቸው ቋሚ ሠራተኛ ሊሆን ይችላል እንጅ።
ስለዚህ ውድ ኢትዮጵያዊያን ሆይ እባካችሁ ሀገርንና ቤተክርስቲያንን ለመታደግ እንትጋ እላለሁ።

ቁርጠኝነት ያስፈልጋል። እንደዚህ እየተልፈሰፈስን ለውጥ ማምጣት የምንችል አይመስለኝም።
ሀገራችንን ጠብቅልን ጌታ ሆይ!

Ze Dima Giogis said...

He who is afraid of Acts of Saints and Martyrs ( Yesadkanina ye semaetat gedlochin) is demon and the evil spirit . Because these books reveal how demon is casted and spitualy totured by the respective saint. Even now when their GEDLE is read, still demon cannot resist.Go to every spa ( Tsebel) , YOU CAN WITNESS THIS .

by the way

Do you know what GEDL is? GEDL is a book explaining the apostlic and spritual struggle of saints and Martyrs AND THE SPIRITUAL REWARD AND COVENANT THEY RECEIVED FROM GOD. For example look the Acts of Apostles ( Yehawaryat sira) in The Bible.

It is Some times called GEDLE HAWARYAT. On that part of The Bible, You will read the different temptation the disciples of Christ faced and the spiritual ministry they rendered and the miracle God performed by their hands , body, cloth and etc.
GEDLE is like that. For example

GEDLE GIORGIS explains the spritual life story of St Georgis. How he fought with demons, HOW HE PREACHED idol worshipers and how God helped him and etc. so are the other GEDLATS. so why are you afraid of these saint stories?????????

Beimnet said...

The petition preparation is well written, from litrary point of view. And it has some solid points. No question about that. However, it doesn't include major points that have been perpetrated by the Synod (the Patriarch and the rest of Synod members)for the last 17 years. In some places it is vague and is short of indicating measures and solutions that have to be taken for lasting peace and well being of the church. One example is paragraphs written on the relationshp between the two synods. Not only that, it doesn't indicate the need for genuine repentance of all the synod members, and may be their resignation from their posts if need be. This helps them to find the time for repentance and complete cleansing through prayers in the monastries. Unless the petition indicates these very crucial and pressing facts, then we are still lying and trying to coverup in the face of almighty God. We will not get real solutions. It is only a matter of time until another chaos, from another direction, explode again. And again. At least, we in the diaspora, have to tell the truth. Christians have been martyred by jihadist moslims, invaluable sacred Church items ripped off, a monk has been assassinated by bodygards for the Patriarch in a church compound, jihadists built more than 111 mosques in 17 years and are now claiming the country, etc. under the witness of this Synod. And now you guys are saying let the Synod members go away with it. That is not justice. We are all liers! God rebukes us all. But, worst of all we are not going to get what we are all hungry and thirsty for. And don't claim all EOTC members in the diaspora agree with your petition. I, for one, am not.

Tesfa said...

"ወይ ጉድ አሁን ደሞ መጻሕፍቶቻችን ላይ ዞርክ።" Ds. i know you like it my name that's why you are tying to comment using my precious name the only who can be my enemy for ever is mak.you have to know this.i command you don't use this name for the next don't cheat your blind followers

Koko said...

"መጻሕፍቶቻችንም ይፈተሹ በጣም የሚያሳፍሩ ናቸው" ተስፋ
ተስፋ ለኛ
ደግሞ መጻሕፍቶቻችን
የሚያኮሩ ናቸው።ድርሳናቱ ገድላቱ ወዘተ ። Ds

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk try to finalized as you began.

Koko said...

tesfa never talking about our books Ds. why you trying to shift the tittle he is claim on Mak not more other issue. i shame on you ds.

Bedlu said...

who is tesfa? did same one knows him personally? Ds(ye MK tera abal negn ke America, Ze Sirinka) are you crazy? what is your proof to say the so called Dn. Mulugeta is tesfa ...? what is your froof can you show us your evidence? please try to came to your mind. this indicates that the so called Decon is a winner over this blog and the reporters of Ds. we are not kids this is a gossip!

Anonymous said...

In 1991,I was in AAU where the Ex Ethiopian leader Col.Mengistu gathered AAU students for town-hall meeting.One of the students asked him this question."After all the Ethiopian army is well equipped and big in number,but why they are loosing the battle to the small numbers of reble fighters?" Mengistu replied ' it is because the military commanders are corrupt. A follow up question was that 'why not those commanders are not punished and removed? Mengistu replied I did my best, I even cut off their ranks and killed some of them ,Mengistu added,' you know what I can't burn my house because their are bugs and thermites in it. One student replied' You don't have to burn your house but you can use insecticide so that you kill the bugs and maintain your house at the same time. That is what our EOC needs to do.We can't have both ways. Bugs and house?No. We need a house free off bugs. There are gedle,Dirsanats,melkamelks,yesenegolgolat...to be burnt and free our EOC and gosple.
God help us.

Anonymous said...

Praise to the Almighty God, the annual meeting of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahdo Church going very well. I believe that the Holy Spirit is leading the conference according to His promise. Because of this, the enemy of our church is being hopeless. .. .. ..
May the Holy Spirit will continue leading the meeting of the holy synod.

tad said...

Guess who is one of the leaders of the general council meeting of EOC? Yared. He is free as expected and leading the meeting as he is department head. I was surprised why DS didn't tell us. I am sure DS knew that he is free and attending the meeting.

በጣም ደስ ሊላችሁ ይገባል said...

ደጀ ሰላሞች
በጣም ደስ ሊላችሁ ይገባል።በአዲስ አበባና በክፍለሀገር የደጀ ሰላም አንባቢ በጣም አየተበራከተ ነው።ታክሲ ላይ ሁሉ መወያያ አጀንዳ ሆናለች።ደጀ ሰላም ምን አለች የብዙ ሰው ጥያቀ አየሆነ ነው።

ሙስሊሙም ማንበብ ጀምሮአል said...

ደጀ ሰላምን አንካን ክርስትያኑ ሙስሊሙም ማንበብ ጀምሮአል ። ባይን አይቻለሁ።በርቱ። ግን መረጃ ቶሎ ቶሎ ቀይሩ።
update your news soon. Now a days Deje Selam is one of the reliable source for spiritual news and information.

Zena said...

ደጀ ሰላምን የመንግስት ባለ ስልጣናትም ሳያይዋት አንድማያድሩ ይነገራል። በተለይ…

Anonymous said...

the above 1991 student of Mengistu in AAU,when you burn the gedle(as Acts of Apotres,Heb 11),melkamelks(Mahaly maly zeSolomon),Sene Golgota(Esayas 56:4-15),etc,,in short you want to burn the Holy Bible.This kind of goal is full of Devil goal(you insult the Holy Spirit).whether you believe or not,You are the big inside enemy of the Church.You have the horn of Devil to destroy EOTC;Please check yourself,you have the horn.

Anonymous said...

i don't think so no one can read it this type non sense blog.

Anonymous said...

"i don't think so no one can read it this type non sense blog."


so why you read it if it is nonsense

Lezebtegnaw said...

The last anonymous ,

Just simply count the number f comments given. It is reaching almost 90. This shows how much readers this blog have.

Those who donot write comment, but simply read and entertain what the others have written are in thousands.
Deje Selamoch, keep on working on this blog. You are bringing more awarness and impact than you can imagine.

Addis Neger , the known newspaper in Ethiopia, also has posted the petition on its blog as a discussion point. In many Ethiopian governmental and non governmental office, employees are discussing about this petition and the blog DS.

Despite the temptation you may face from satan and herestic peoples, keep on doing what you are doing.Very breakthrough job.

Anonymous said...

ADDIS NEGER AND THE PETITION

http://www.addisneger.com/newsdetail.do



http://www.addisneger.com/newsdetail.do

Anonymous said...

http://www.addisneger.com
/newsdetail.do

Yea i also get it on Addis Neger web page . the issue of the petitio is moving fast as a desert fire.

በርቱ said...

ድሮ የአሚሪካ ራድዮ ምን አለ? አንደሚባለው አሁን ደጀ ሰላም ምን አለች አየተባለ ነው።
በርቱ።ብዙዎቻቸን ብዙ አየተማርንበት ነው።በተለይ ማህበረቅዱሳን ምን ያህል ጠላት አነዳለው ተገንዝበናል።የሀሳብ ልዩነትን ግን ኧትገድቡ።አንዱ የዚህ ብሎግ ውበቱ ይህ ነውና።

Anonymous said...

The enemies of our Tewahedo Orthodox Church are now openly calling for the "burning" of Our Church Books!

This is the call of the Awriew working now openly in his struggle against Our Holly Church, The
Church of Jesus Christ, Appostels, all Saints and Martyrs!

This is what Mussolini and Hitler
did. This is what all those who belong to the Awriew have done and will do before they start kill the real believers in Almighty Medhanie Alem. This is their desire for which they are working every second of their life.

It is a warning to all of us sones and daughters of Tewahedo-Ethiopia.
We must be prepared and alert for all eventualities.The killeres want to destroy Our Holly Books before they start Killing us!

They will of course not succeed
in destroying our Tewahedo Church. God will not let that happen!

But, let us not forget that the
Majrat Mechiwoch under the demonic
leadership of Elzabel are the signs that the enemies of God have enetered our Holly Church. They are preparing the road for the absolute takeover of our Church by
the Awriew who has already enetered the House of God and openly rejected the laws and regulations of God which govern the function of our Holly Tewahedo Church!

The time of betrayal and treachery has begun. We have already seen it!
Behold, The God of Abune Tekle Haimanot, Abune Gebre Menfes Qidus,Qidist Kristos Semra and Abune Habte Mariam will deliver Our Church and It's blessed children from the conspiracies of the evil one!

Children of Tewahedo let us stand up firm and refute the forces of
evil and destruction!

Let us not give any chances for the enemies of Tewahedo-Ethiopia to desecrate Our Church, Our Holly Books, and our souls!

Enatachin Qidist Dingil Mariam
Yehen YeMekera Gizie BeDill Adragint Enalfew Zend Abran Nech!

Blessed be The Holly Name of The Father, The Son and The Holly Spirit!

tesfa said...

ይድረስ ለጠቅላይ ቤ/ክህነት
እነሆ በአሁኑ ሰዓት የሀገር ስብከት ሪፖርቶችን እያደመታችሁ ከፍተኛ ገንዘብ ላመጡአልችሁ የምስክር ወረቀትና ደረጃ በመስጠት ትሸልማላችሁ ለመሆኑ እናንተ ምን ሰራታችሁ ነው?ይህን ገንዘብ የምትበሉት? ለመሆኑ የገጠሩ ምመን ስለኢየሱስ ክርስቶስ የሚያውቀው ነገር አለ ወይ?
እናንተስ ወረድ ብላችሁ ሰብካችሁ ይሆን ?
ሰባኪውን ሁሉ ለምን አዲስ አበባ ውስጥ ለምን አጎራችሁት?
የሕዝቡን ደም እግዚአሔር ከጃችሁ ይፈልገዋል
እናንተም ሳትሰሩ በመብላታችሁ ይኽው ተበላልታችሁ ልትጠፉ ነው ብትሄዱስ ምኑን ታስተምራላችሁ ?
ወነጌልን ወይስ ፖለቲካውን?

YeAwarew said...

Selam all:
When we start writing replies and waste our time answering Tesfa/Ewshetu/haymanot and their group, that makes their day. So as many before have urged us to ignore them, please let us do that, ignore "Tesfa, Ewshetu and the likes...". They need the attention. When we ignore them, they start to disappear.
And let us concentrate on signing the petition and making it ready before the Tiqimt Holy Synod meeting. And how we can help our mother Church. What do you say ? Are you with me ?
I have sent the link to everyone I know in my inbox, ~900 people.
So, let us all do that, True EOTC members!

May God protect His Church and the true Fathers,

YeAwarew

Eunetu Tawoke said...

Then, you start attacking our spiritual books...

For those who wants detailed information about our canonic books, here is what currently posted in Mk website.

http://eotc-mkidusan.org/site/images/stories/pdfs/Awalid_Metsahift.pdf

Egziabher Yitebiken

Ze Debre Libanos said...

Ya Awarew,
I think your suggestion is nice. Let us all send the link of the petition to every Orthodox Tewahido memeber we know and request every one to dissiminate it. Let alone this we have forwarded so many other messages which may have less value when compared with this petition.
Guys let us click on line to send this petition link for OUR CONTACTS NOW. NOW IS THE TIME

yetsyon said...

John the Baptist, What I can say is you don't know Aba Wolde Tensae. He is one person in front of an audience and another person when you meet him in person. His private opinion is like Tesfa and he is actually Tesfa. Does it help to discuss him here? Yes it does, he is taking many yetewahido lijot wode chelemaw sefer

John Ze Baptist said...

Yetsyon, As you said I don't know Aba Wolde Tensae in person but from his teachings, I know him to be good theological , one who has good vision for our church and that has full knowledge of the church. I don't expect Tesfa to be Aba Wolde Tensae.I cannot say any more.
Aba Wolde Tensae at least don't need the distraction of the church as Tesfa is doing.

feqer said...

There are many Abba woldetensaes in Ethiopia,America,Europe,etc.we said that Abba woldensae of America ,who says that we can use Organ for church service;but this point shouldn't be the main problem of him.Like John Baptist,I heard his sermons which are very dogmatic and important,which also keep the teachings of EOTC.He is the best preacher.There fore,yetsyon,don't aggravate the situation.I think you didn't listen his teaching

Ethiopian Review said...

TESFA IS AN ORGANIZED ANTI ETHIOPIAN MAFIA GROUP

I dont think so Tesfa is Aba Wolde tinsae.

Go to major on line Ethiopian related web pages, you will read comment written by the name Tesfa. most of the comments wriiten by Tesfa are anti Ethiopian, Destructive and etc.

I am suspecting that there is a gruop , which is highly organized, using the screen name Tesfa, whose aim is just to break Ethiopia Apart.

As we all know our Church is one of the place where everybody can get the past glorious history of the country. So attacking our church can even be their major aim.

Mahibere Kidusan is the only strong association that our church do have. The reason why they are attacking Mk may be this. I am suspicious that the ones who are writting the so caled book " mahibere erkusan" truely can be paid messangers of this group

to Verify this , please go to Ethiopian review news and try to read some of the comments. You will find Tesfa with his destructive comments as usual
to save ur time , i have posted u one message Tesfa posted on Ethiopian review

Tesfa says:

Messay please we need your analysis .....Do not use please these slogans "one country", "one religion" and "one language".

October 8th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Ethiopian review

Anonymous said...

ይድረስ፡ለእውነተኛዎቹ፡የክርስቶስ፡ተከታ
ዮች፥የተዋሕዶ-ኢትዮጵያ፡ልጆች፤

መድኃኔ፡ዓለም፡እንፈጽማቸው፡ዘንድ፡ያዘ
ዘንን፡ትእዛዛቱን፥ሥነ፡ሥራዓቱንና፡ፍርዱን
ም፡በመጠበቅ፥ለትዋህዶ፡ቤተ፡ክርስቲያ
ናችንና፡ለውዲት፡አገራችን፡በጸሎት፡እን
ትጋ!

ዘባቾች፡ጊዚያቸው፡መሆኑንና፡ወቅ
ቱ፡የተጋድሎ-ዘተዋሕዶ፡ምዕመናን፡መሆ
ኑን፡አጥብቀን፡እንገንዘብ!ይህ፡ያለንበት፡
ጊዜም፡መጻሕፍቱ፡እንደሚያስተምሩን፡ለ
ምኩራብ፡ሰዎችና፡ገዢዎች፡ክርስቲያኖች፡
አሳልፈው፡የተሰጡበትና፡የሚሰጡበት፡እን
ደሆነ፡ጠንቅቀን፡እንገንዘብ!

አመጸኞች፡የማይችሉትን፡የቅጣት፡ፍርድ፡ከተ
ዋሕዶ፡ኦርቶዶክስ፡ዘኢትዮጵያ፡አምላክ፡እንደ
ሚቀበሉ፡በማመን፡በተጋድሏችን፡እንበርታ!


"በኃጢአተኛ፡ብዙ"መቅሰፍት፡አለበት፤
በእግዚአብሔር፡የሚታመነውን፡ግን፡
ምሕረት፡ይከበዋል።
ጻድቃን፡ሆይ፥በእግዚአብሔር፡ደስ፡ይ
በላችሁ፡ሐሴትም፡አድርጉ፤
ልባችሁም፡የቀና፡ሁላችሁ፡እልል፡በሉ።"
መዝሙር፡ዳዊት፥31 ከቁ.10-11

እውነተኛ፡አባቶችና!ማኅበረ፡ቅዱሳን፡በያላችሁ
በት፡በርቱ፡እመ፡ብርሃን፡ትርዳችሁ፤ትርዳን፤ታ
ጠንክራችሁ፤ታጠንክረን።

እግዚአብሔር፡ይህን፡የፈተና፤ሰዓት፡እንድናልፍ፡
እናንተን፡ስለሰጠን፡ክብርና፡ምስጋና፡ይድረሰው!

በርቱ!እንበርታ!እየተፈረመ፡ያለው፡አቤቱታ
ም፡ለመላው፡የኢትዮጵያ፡ሕዝበ፡ክርስቲያን፡እን
ዲዳረስ፡ይሁን።በለቅሷችን፡ቀለም፡የተጻፈ፡ስለሆ
ነ፡ለደረሰብን፡ሐዘን፡መፋረጃና፣ወደፊት፡ለምናደ
ርገው፡ሐሴት፡መግለጫችን፡ማስረጃችን፡ነው።

እኛም፡የተክለ፡ሃይማኖት፡ልጆች፡በያለበት፡አለ
ን።ክርስቶስ፡ለኛ፡መስዋእት፡እንደሆነ፡እኛም፡ለ
እርሱ፡መስዋእት፡ለመሆን፡ዝግጁ፡ነን።እርሱ፡ራሱ፡
አብሮን፡እንደሆነ፡እናውቃለን፤እናምናለን።

ፌዘኞቹንና፡ዘባቾቹን፥ማጅራት፡መቺዎቹንና፡ቤ
ተ፡ክርስቲያንን፡አስጠቂዎችን/አፍራሾችን፡የሚ
መታው፡የእግዚአብሔር፡ሰይፍ፡ተመዟል!

የእኛ፡ትምክህት፡በቅዱስ፡ቃሉንና፡በበጉ፡ደም፡ስ
ለሆነ።የምናፍርበትና፡ተስፋ፡የምንቆርጥበት፡አን
ዳችም፡ነገር፡የለም!

የቀደምት፡አባቶቻችን፡አምላክ፡አይለየን!አሜን።


ሳሙኤል፡ዘአሰቦት።

Anonymous said...

Dear DS,

It is time to make DS moderated blog, why are u entertaining all this nonsense comments. Peoples like tesfa/Meklit/Debteraw/Shemels/... (may be all are from same person ) want to make DS annoying blogging site for Christians. That is their plan and they are becoming successful. If you want Deje-Selam to be a better place that will contribute something good to the church, please remove comments from users who want to advertise their site and inject their bad idea.

I can give u simple example. The last blog is about petition, but more than 75% of the discussion is about something else and ads which are not related to the main issue.

Please take action before this site become junk site.

Thanks

Anonymous said...

„ዛሬ በሀገራችን በኢትዮጲያ በእኛ ቤተክርስቲያን እየተፈፀመ ያለው ዕውን ከአባቶችን ድንጋጌ ውጪ በመሆኑ በቆራትጥት በጋራ ልንታገለው ይገባል፡፡ መነኩሴ ያመጣው ጠንቅ መብረጃ የለውም ፡፡ ይህ ሁሉ መንስኤው የሹመት ሹክቻ ነው፡፡ እነሱ ይሞታሉ ፤ ጥለውት የሚሄዱት ጥቁር ነጥብ ትውልድን ሲያዋጋ ይኖራል፡፡ ስለዚህ በህዝብ የተመረጠ ከህዝብ የሚወግን ለሀይማኖቱ ለመንፈሳዊ ልጆቹ ቀድሞ እንደ ክርስቶስ የሚሞት በሀገራችን እንደ አቡነ ጴጥሮስ እንደ አቡነ ሚካኤል ያለ አባት እንዲሰጠን እግዚአብሔርን በጋራ እንለምነው፡፡ የአቡነ ቴዎፍሎስ የግፍ አሟሟት የባህታዊ ፈቃደ ሥላሴ በዓውደ-ምህረት ላይ መገደል እንዲሁም በየጊዜው በከንቱ የሚፈሰው የንፁሀን ደም እየተፋረደን ይገኛል ፡፡ የህግ የበላይነት ለሁሉም ኢትዮጲያውያን ስለሆነ የዘር ጥላቻን ጐጠኝነትን ዘረኝነትን ራስ ወዳድነትን ወደኋላ ትተን ለሀገር ለትውልድ መልካም ታሪክ ለማስረከብ በዘር መደራጀት መቆም አለበት፡፡ በዘር በጐሳ መደራጀት የትም አያደርሰንም ፡፡ በሀገራችን በቤተ ክርስቲያናችን ሰላም እንዲወርድ ለይቅርታ ዝግጁ እንሁን፡፡ ይቅር እንባባል፤ በግፍ የታሰሩት ወገኖቻችንን እግዚአብሔር ያስፈታልን ፡፡ ሁላችንም ለሀገራችንና ለቤተክርስቲያናችን ሰላም እንዲልክልን አምላካችንን ይቅርታ እንጠይቀው፡፡
ልዑል እግዚአብሔር አገራችንን፤ ቤተክርስቲያናችንን ከክፉ ፈተና ይጠብቅልን፡፡ ኣሜን
አክባሪ ልጃችሁ የቀድሞ የግፍ እስረኛ የአሁን ስደተኛ
ጥበቡ የማነ ብርሃን (ቀሪንገረመው) ከጀርመን
ጥቅምት 2002 (Oct .2009)“


http://www.quatero.net/pdf/yehaimanot_abatoch.pdf

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1. QsÈÝ( yQsÈ |‰ ytjmrW bx|‰W mÚ?FT §Y nWÝÝ x|‰W mÚ?FTN bmtcT GñStEkÖC X /Ä!úN P§èÂWÃN k2¾W XSk 5¾W mè KFl zmN \YÍcWN mZzW nbRÝÝ lz!HM yተ-qÑbT mNgD xSm SlÖ mÚF½ kmμk§cW Xynqs# mtcT½ XRS bRS XNd¸UOE xDRgÖ ¥úyT½ bFLSF mNgD ¥ÿS wzt. ÂcWÝÝ በተለይም በዘመነ ሐዋርያውያን Aበው ቤተ ክርስቲያንን ሲያዉኩ የነበሩት ግኖስቲኮች የራሳቸውን የፈጠራ Eምነት Eየጻፉ በሐዋር ያት ስም Eየሰየሙ ያሰራጩ ነበር፡፡ bz!H zmN ynb„ xbW ê Tk#r¬cW x| ‰W mÚ?FTN mR-W½ lYtW bqñ mwsN nbRÝÝ bz!HM m\rT የቅዱ ሳን ሐዋርያትን ወንጌላትና መልEክታት ከግኖስቲኮች የፈጠራ ድርሰቶች በመለየት bL† L† g#Æx@ÃT mÚ?Ft$N mR-W bqñ b@t KRStEÃN dngg#êcWÝÝ
የAዋልድ መጻሕፍት ዋናው ተጋላጭነታቸው የሚመነጨው በቀኖና ያልተወሰኑና ተሰፍረውና ተቆጥረው ያልተቀመጡ ከመሆናቸው ነው፡፡ ከዚህም የተነሣ በባለቤትነት ከያዟቸው Aብያተ ክርስቲያናት ወይም ግለሰቦች የEምነትና የAመላካከት ተጽEኖ ሥር የመውደቅ Eድላቸው ሰፊ ነው፡፡ መጽሐፍ ቅዱስ በምEራፍና በቁጥር ተሰፍሮና ተቆጥሮ Eንዲቀመጥ የተደረገበት Aንዱ ምክንያት ለመለወጥና ሥርዋጽ ለማስገባት ይሞክሩ ለነበሩትና ለሚሞክሩት ሁሉ መንገድ Eንዳያገኙ ለማድረግ ነው፡፡ Eንዲያውም ሆኖ ከቋንቋ ወደ ቋንቋ ሲተረጎም፣ Eንዲሁም በተለያy ዘዴ ክፉዎች ሰዎች Aልፎ Aልፎ Aንዳንድ ቀዳዳ ማግኘታቸው Aልቀረም፡፡ መንገድና Aጋጣሚ ካገኙ በመጽሐፍ ቅዱስ ላይ የሚፈልጉ ትን ከማድረግ ወደ ኋላ የማይሉ ከሆነ በAዋልድ መጻሕፍት ላይ ለውጥ ቢያደርጉና ቢቀስጧቸው Aያስደንቅም፡፡
ዲዮናስዮስ የተባለው በሦስተኛው መቶ ዓመት መጀመሪያ ገደማ የነበረው የቤተ ክር ስቲያን Aባት Eርሱ ጽፎ የላካቸውን መልEክታት ከውስጣቸው ቀንሰውና ቆርጠው Aውጥተው፣ ሌላ የራሳቸውን የጨመሩባቸው መሆኑን በመግለጽ ምEመናንን Eንዲጠነ ቀቁ AስገንዝቦAል፡፡ ዲያብሎስ የሚነዳቸው የቤተ ክርስቲያን ጠላቶች በAዋልድ መጻሕ 16
ፍት ላይ የራሳቸውን ኑፋቄ ካስገቡ በኋላ ጅራፍ ራሱ ገርፎ ራሱ ይጮኻል Eንደሚባ ለው¿ Eንደገና መልሰው ቤተ ክርስቲያንን ለማሳጣትና ለመንቀፍ ይህን Eንደ Aንድ መንገድ ለመጠቀም መሞከራቸው Aልቀረም፡፡ ከዚህም ጋር የቀኖናውያት መጻሕፍት Eውነተኛ ልጆች ሳይሆኑ በግንዛቤ ጉድለት ምክንያት Aዋልድ መስለው Eንዳያሳስቱ ጥንቃቄ ያስፈልጋል፡፡ የቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱ የበላይ Aካል የሆነው ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ የቤተ ክርስቲያን ናቸው የሚባሉትንና በውስጧ ያሉትን የተለያዩ መጻሕፍት መርምሮ ትክክለ ኞቹን Aዋልድ መጻሕፍት የማጽደቅ፣ በቅሰጣና በልዩ ልዩ ምክንያት ችግር ያለባቸውን የማስተካከል ወይም ስህተታቸውን በመግለጥ ቤተ ክርስቲያን የማትቀበላቸው መሆኑን መወሰንና ለምEመናን ማሳወቅ ይጠበቅበታል፡፡ በዚህ ረገድ ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ በጣም ብዙ ሥራ ይጠበቅበታል፡፡ ምEመናንም መሠረታዊውን የቤተ ክርስቲያን ትምህርት በመማ ርና የሁሉም መለኪያ (ቀኖና) የሆኑትን Aሥራው መጻሕፍትን (መጽሐፍ ቅዱስን) በመ ማር የተለያዩ ድርሳናትን ከመሠረታቸው AንÚር ለመመዘን Eንዲችሉ መሆን ይገባቸ ዋል፡፡ በAዋልድ መጻሕፍት ላይ በቅሰጣም ይሁን በሌላ ምክንያት ይህ ስህተት ነው የሚል ነገር ሲነoe መደናገጥና መናወጥ Aይገባም፡፡ የቤተ ክርስቲያN Eምነት የተመ ሠረተው በAዋልድ ላይ ሳይሆን በቀኖናውያት መጻሕፍት ላይ ነውና፡፡

Dn. Daniel Kibret Awalid Metsahifit

mulugeta said...

why Abba wolde tensaea is the discussion forum now. if you only listen his teaching, and you don't know him in person you may not know him and it would be wrong to defend him. i my self experinced his teaching and i heared his comment similar to the comment by the protestant pasto Tollosa a couple of years ago. i my self don't want to repeat what his comment was and try to find what was the pasotor's comment. he is good speaker but he has luck of the church teaching. before he skip to one of the monastry he was working as a telephone operator and he was old he failed to start to learn quine, zema, and some of the basic teaching. but he was smart and he learn how to make him self very important. anyway try to examine if he is standing by his teaching. you guys expected him to spill what he belive, no way that would be a full blown "nufakea" and he don't want to lose the support of some "yewahan" till he finish his mission. please exmine if he live by his own teaching.

Ze Dima said...

I read the full articel written by ጥበቡ የማነ ብርሃን . But i feel sorry,Mr Tibebe , when i tell u that ur essay is polluted with toxic ideas, though some of it is good. let me substanciate my premmice by quoting excerpts from ur long essay

“ቤተክርስቲያኒቱ በምትጦራቸው ጊዜ የተሰደዱትን ጳጳሳትና ምEመናን ለማውገዝ 1ኛው ዲያቆን በጋሻው Eንደፃፈው ቤተክርስቲያኒቱን ለመቆጣጠር የተደራጀው ቡድን ስምAፅድቅ Aራተኛ Aመት ቁጥር 5 ቅፅ 14 / 124 የካቲት 1999 ባወጣው Eትሙ በስደት Aለም የሚገኙትን ጳጳሳት ካህናት ምEመናን ለማውገዝ 1ኛ ሆኖ ተገኘ፡፡ Aሁንም በAሜሪካ በAውሮፓ Eየተዘዋወረ በስደትና በEንግልት መርዙን Eየረጨ ይገኛል፡፡ በሀገር ቤት የቤተክርስቲያኒቱን ልጆች ስማቸውን Eያጠፉ ከፖሊስ ጋር ግንባር ፈጥሮ የክብር ልብሳቸውን የተገፈፉ ብዙዎቹ ናቸው፡፡ ከሞት ተርፎ ታሪካቸውን የፃፈው ዲያቆን ፅጌ ስጦታው ያሉትን ከመቃብር የተነሳው ምስክር ነው::” ጥበቡ የማነ ብርሃን (ቀሪንገረመው

Mr Tibebu,still u are accusing Mahibere Kidusan for not cooperating with the Synod in USA. Besides, you argue that SIMEA SIDK , the only news paper of MK, is the first to denounce the ex communicated "bishops". amazingly you want to tell us the owner of this spiritual new paper is aspiring to administer the church.

First of all with all due respect, Mr Tibebu, i want to tell u that ur essay is blunt biased, uncritical and poisnous. Mahibere Kidusan has never aspired to handle the administration of the church. This issue is clearly indicated on the by law of MK. Further Mahibere kidusan is not vomiting poison, rather it is fighting with home grown aimless weapon of foreiners like u.

I dont want to go into detail. But do u think that it is the duty of a father to leave his sheepsfor wolves and live wealthy life in USA and in Europe. It was better if ur article advised them to be courageous than fleeding to USA.

The prophet Jermiah never left his people for wolves.Rather he was with them together encouraging teaching them the true path of God. Even he died before them.
Abuana Petros and Michael also did the same. The prefer to die for the nation than going abroad and be toungue tiger.

By the way i am not for Aba Paulos nor for Merkorios. I am not also Mahibere Kidusan. But i can see that the only organized association is Mahibere Kidusan. However, everybody is trying to meltdown this association and give the sheeps for wolf.
I can see u guys are also wolves in the skin of sheeps.

Anonymous said...

to read the full article of the above text go to
http://eotc-mkidusan.org/site/images/stories/pdfs/Awalid_Metsahift.pdf

John Ze Baptist said...

በቅዱስ ዮሐንስ ጠበል ከሆዷ ወፍ የወጣላት እኅት
በአዲስ አበባ ሀገረ ስብከት በደብረ ወልደ ነጎድጓድ ቅዱስ ዮሐንስ እና በመካነ ጎለጎታ ቅድስት ማርያም ጠበል ሰሞኑን ከአንዲት እኅት ከሆዷ ጥቁር ወፍ ወጣላት፡፡ በክርስትና ስሟ መንበረ ማርያም ተብላ የምትጠራው እኅት ለ20 ዓመታት ያህል በሆድ ሕመማት ስትሰቃይ መቆየቷን የምትናገረው መንበረ ማርያም፤ ስቃይዋን በዘመናዊው ሕክምና ለማስታገስ ያልሔደችበት ቦታና ያልወሰደችው መድኃኒት የለም፡፡ ይሁንና የምትወስደው ሕክምና ለጊዜው ስቃይዋን ከማስታገስ በስተቀር ከሕመሟ ልትድን ባለመቻሏ ከዚህ በኋላ ይግደለኝ እንጂ ሕክም ናም ሆነ መድኃኒት መጠቀም የለብኝም፤ ብላ ጠበል ለመጠመቅ እንደ ወሰነች ትናገራለች፡፡ በውሳኔዋም መሠ ረት ወደ ወልደ ነጎድጓድ ቅዱስ ዮሐንስ ቤተክርስቲያን ጠበል በመሄድ ስትጠመቅ በላይዋ ላይ የሰፈሩ 681 አጋንንት እንዳሉ በላይዋ ላይ ያደሩት የሰይጣን ሠራዊት ለፍልፎ በጥቁር ወፍ አምሳል ከሆዷ ውስጥ ሊወጣላት ችሏል፡፡
ምእመናን በዕለቱ ከሆዷ ውስጥ በትውከትነት እንደ ጥይት ተወርውሮ የወጣውን ጥቁር ወፍ ከነሕይወቱ በማየት በቪዲዮ በመቅረጽ የእግዚአብሔርን ድንቅ ተአምር እንደ መሰከሩ ተገልጿል፡፡

የስምዐ ጽድቅ ጋዜጣ ዝግጅት ክፍል የእግዚአብሔርን ድንቅ ሥራ ሰምቶ ይህንኑ ወፍ የወጣላትን መን በረ ማርያምንና ያጠመቋትን አባት ሊቀ ትጉኃን ስሙር አሐዱን በማነጋገር ድርጊቱ እንዴትና ምን ይመስል እንደነበር በሰፊው ዘግቧል፡፡

God is Great Check full text at:
http://eotc-mkidusan.org/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=75&Itemid=18

John Ze Baptist said...

እግዚአብሔር ሥራው ድንቅ ነው፤ ተዓምሩ ዕፁብ ነው፤ ተነግሮ አያልቅም፤ ይህን ሥራውን መመስከር ደግሞ የእኛ ተግባር ነው፡፡ ለረጅም ዓመታት በሕመም ስትሰቃይ የነበረች በስመ ጥምቀቷ መንበረ ማርያም የተባለች ወጣት የእግዚአብሔርን የድንቅ ሥራው መገለጫ ሆናለች፡፡

ለዚህች እህት እግዚአብሔር ያደረገላት ገቢረ ተአምር ሲሰሙት ለጆሮ የሚከብድ፤ እንዲሁም በወቅቱ ድር ጊቱ ሲፈጸም የተመለከቱ ምእመናንን ሁሉ ያስደመመ ነበር፡፡ «ማን ያርዳ የቀበረ፤ ማን ይናገር የነበረ» ነውና ሥረ መሠረቱ ምን፣ እንዴትና መቼ ሆነ? የሚለውን ጉዳይ እሷው ባለታሪኳ እንዲህ ትተርክልናለች፡፡

«ያመኝ የነበረው ገና የአራት ዓመት ልጅ እያለሁ እሰቃይ ነበር፡፡ ለምሳሌ የራስ ምታት፣ ነስር፣ የሆድ ቁርጠት፣ የአንጀት ኢንፌክሽን ወዘተ እየተባለ በመታመም ሁልጊዜ ሐኪም ቤት እመላለስ ነበር፡፡ እናቴ እንደ ነገረችኝ የሕመሙ መነሻ ወተት ነው፡፡ «ወተት ጠጥተሽ የአንጀት ኢንፌክሽን ያዘሽ» ያለችኝ እናቴ በየክሊኒኩ እየወሰደችኝ ስታስመረምረኝ መድኃኒት እንደሚያዙልኝ አጫውታኛለች፡፡ ራሴን ማወቅ ስጀምር ትምህርት ቤት ገብቼ ስማር ሆዴን ያመኛል፡፡ በተለይ በበጋ ወራት ተምሬ ሁለት ወር ክረምት በሚሆንበት ወቅት ክፉኛ ያመኛል» ስትል ተናግራለች፡፡

መንበረ ማርያም በሕመሟ መጥናት ብዙ ጊዜ ሐኪም ቤትና ክሊኒክ ተመላልሳ እንደታከመች ገልጻል ናለች፡፡ ነገር ግን ጠበልስ አልሞከረች ይሆን? የሚለው ጥያቄ አጫረብንና ጠየቅናት፤ እርሷም ስትመልስ «በዚያን ወቅት ቤተሰቦቼ የሚያስቡት ሐኪም ቤት የሚባለውን እንጂ ጠበልን አልነበረም፡፡ እኔም ቢሆን በወ ቅቱ ጠበልን አላሰብኩትም፤ ብቻ ሐኪም ቤት ሔጄ የተለያየ መድኃኒት ይታዘዝልኛል እወስዳለሁ፡፡ ለጊዜው ያስታግሥልኛል፤ ጨርሶ ግን ሊያድነኝ አልቻለም፡፡ ይባስ ብሎ የ12ኛ ክፍል ብሔራዊ ፈተና ወስጄ ጥሩ ውጤት በማምጣት አራት ኪሎ ዩኒቨርሲቲ ገብቼ የመጀመሪያ ዓመት መማር ስጀምር በሽታው ክፉኛ አሰቃየኝ፡፡ ያስጨንቀኛል፣ ከፍተኛ የራስ ምታት ሕመም ይሰማኛል፤ ማጥናት አልችልም ነበር፡፡ የሴሚስተር ፈተና ደርሶ ሁለት ሳምንት ሲቀረው አንደኛው ዐይኔ ውስጡ ሲቆስል ሌላኛው ዕንባ ማፍሰስ ጀመረ፡፡ ዕንባው ያለምንም ማቋረጥ ለ24 ሰዓታት ይወርዳል፡፡ ቤተሰቦቼ ሁኔታው አላምር ቢላቸው ወደ አንዲት ታዋቂ የዐይን ሐኪም ወሰዱኝ፡፡ እሷም 'በሕይወቴ እንዲህ ዐይነት ነገር ዐይቼ አላውቅም፤ ዐይኗ ውስጥ ቁስል አለና የመታት ነገር አለ ወይ?' ብላ ጠየቀች፡፡ ይሁንና ቤተሰቦቼም ሆኑ እኔ ምንም ነገር የመታኝ ነገር እንደሌለ ለዶክተሯ ነገርናት፡፡ በየሰዓቱ የሚደረግ ጠብታ አዛልኝ ለጊዜው ተሻለኝ፡፡ የከፍተኛ ትምህርቴን ግን ሳልማር ለሁለት ዓመት ያህል አቋረጥኩ» ትላለች የሕመሙን አስከፊነት የምትናገረው መንበረ ማርያም፡፡

መንበረ ማርያም እንደገለጸችልን በጤና መታወክ ሳቢያ ለጊዜው ትምህርቷን ብታቋርጥም ለትምህርቷ ያላት ቁጭት ከፍተኛ ስለነበር በሽታው መጣ ሔድ እያለ ቢያስቸግራትም ከዩኒቲ ዩኒቨርሲቲ ኮሌጅ በመግባት ትምህርቷን በሥራ አመራር የትምህ ርት ዘርፍ ለአራት ዓመታት ያህል ተከታትላ በ1996 ዓ.ም በዲግሪ ተመርቃለች፡፡

ይሁንና ሌላ ያላሰበችው ችግር ገጠማት፤ ይህስ ምን ይሆን? ለዚህም መንበረ ማርያም ስትናገር «የወር አበባዬ ከመጣበት ጊዜ አንሥቶ አሁን እስከዳንኩበት ጊዜ ድረስ በየወሩ በጣም እያመመኝ ክፉኛ ያሰቃየኛል፡፡ ስቃዩን ለማስታገሻ እያልኩ ፓ¬ራሲታሞል ክኒን በየአራት ሰዓት ልዩነት ሁለት ሁለት ፍሬ በመዋጥ በቀን 10 ፍሬ እወስድ ነበር፡፡ ሐኪም ቤትም ብሔድ የሚሰጡኝ መርፌ ነው፡፡ አልሻል አለኝ፡፡ የሕክምና ባለሙያዎቹ 'አግብታ ትውለድ፤ ሴቶች እንዲህ ዐይነት ሕመም ሲሰማቸው ይሻላቸዋልና መውለድ አለብሽ' ብለው አስተያየት ይሰጡኛል» ትላለች፡፡

እንደ መንበረ ማርያም አገላለጽ ብዙ ጊዜ መድኃኒትም መዋጥ ሌላ ችግር /Side-effect/ ስላለው መድኃ ኒት መውሰዱን ታቋርጣለች፤ «ከድጡ ወደ ማጡ» እንዲሉ ይባስ ብሎ በየወሩ ያማት የነበረው እንደ አዲስ የማያቋርጥ የማኅፀን ሕመም ይሰማት ጀመር፡፡ በዚህን ጊዜም በታወቁ የማኅፀን ሐኪም በመታየት በወር አበባ ሳቢያ የተነሣ በማኅፀኗ ውስጥ ትናንሽ ዕጢዎች እንዳሉ ይነገራትና የወር አበባዋ ከመምጣቱ በፊት ለአንድ ሳምንትና ከመጣም በኋላ ለአንድ ሳምንት የሚወሰድ ከባድና በጣም ውድ የሆነ መድኃኒት ይታዘዝላ ታል፡፡ ይህ የሆነው ከሁለት ዓመት በፊት ነው፡፡

«በዚህን ጊዜ የመጨረሻ ቁርጥ ውሳኔ ወሰንኩ» ትላለች መንበረ ማርያም፡፡ «መሞቴ ለማይቀር ነገር ለምን እሰቃያለሁ? በመድኃኒትስ ለምን እቃጠላለሁ?» በማለት ወደ ጠበል ቦታ ለመሔድ ወሰነች፡፡ ጠበሉን እንድትሞክር ያነሣሣትና ምክንያት የሆነቻት ደግሞ ጓደኛዋ እንደሆነች ተናግራለች፡፡ «አንድ ጓደኛዬ እንደ እኔ ዓይነት ሕመም ይሰማት ስለነበር ጻድቃኔ ማርያም ሔዳ ጠበል ጠጥታ እንደዳነች ነገረችኝ፡፡ እኔም ጠበል መጠጣትና መጠመቅ እንዳለብኝ መከረችኝ፡፡ መድኃኒቱን አቋርጬ ጠበል መጠመቅ ጀመርኩ፡፡ እየጾምኩ በተከታታይ ጠበሉን ስጠጣና ስጠመቅ በየወሩ የወር አበባዬ ሲመጣ ያመኝ የነበረውን ተወኝ፡፡ በመቀጠል ከማኅፀኔ ሥጋ ነገር ተቆርጦ ወጣ፡፡ በዚህ ጊዜ ቤተሰቦቼ «እጢው ወጣልሽ» በማለት ተአምር አሉ፡፡ ሥጋ መሰል ባዕድ አካል ከወጣልኝ በኋላ ምንም ዓይነት ስሜት ሳይሰማኝ ጤነኛ ሆንኩ፤ ጠበሉንም አቋረጥኩት» በማለት ገልጻለች፡፡

በዚህ መልኩ ለውጥ ያገኘችበትን ጠበል ስታቋርጥ ዳግም ሕመሙ ጀመራት፡፡ መንበረ ማርያም ትናገራ ለች፡፡ «ጠበሉን ለአንድ ዓመት እንዳቋረጥኩ በሽታው በባሰና በሚያስፈራ መልኩ ተመልሶ መጣ፡፡ እንደገና ጠበሉን መጠጣት ጀመርኩ፤ በዚህን ጊዜም ደጋግሞ የሆነ ነገር በሕልሜ ያሳየኛል፤ በሆነ መንገድ ላይ በጣም ጥቁርና ትልቅ ሰውዬ ዝም ብሎ ቆሞ ዐያለሁ፣ ቀጥሎ እኔ ሕፃን ልጅ ታቅፌ ሳመልጥ እሱ ትልቅ ድንጋይ ይዞ እየተከተለ በማስፈራራት ሲያሯሩጠኝ ዐያለሁ፡፡ ይህን ያየሁት በድሮው ቤታችን መገናኛ አካባቢ ነው፡፡

የመንበረ ማርያም ዋናው ታሪክ የሚጀምርው በግንቦት ወር 2001 ዓ.ም ነው፡፡ በዕለተ ሰንበት እሑድ ቀን ቅዳሴ አስቀድሳ ስትመለስ እንደተለመደው የወር አበባ ይታያትና በቃላት ሊገለጽ በማይችል ሁኔታ በጽኑ ትታመማለች፡፡ መንበረ ማርያም እንደገለጸችው «መጽሐፈ አርጋኖን ይዛ ከአንዱ ክፍል ወደ አንዱ ክፍል እየተንቆራጠጠች 'ወይኔ! እመቤቴ ኧረ አድኚኝ' እያለች መኝታ ክፍሏ ሆና ስታጣጥር በድንገት በግድግዳ ላይ የተሰቀለውን የቅዱስ ሚካኤል ሥዕል ታያለች፡፡ እያጣጣርኩ በክፍሌ ውስጥ ቁጭ ብዬ ድንገት የተሰቀለውን የቅዱስ ሚካኤል ሥዕል ቀና ብዬ ማየት ስጀምር የፌዝ ሳቅ መሳቅ ጀመርኩ፡፡ በዚህን ጊዜ ራሴን እየለወጠኝ ነው፤ አልፎ አልፎ እንጂ ምን እንደምሠራም አላውቅም፤ መጣሁልህ ይላል፡፡ እንደዛር ማጓራት ጀመርኩ፤ አባቴ ሲሰማ ደነገጠ፡፡ እሱ እንደነገረኝ ሁለት እጄን ይዞ የቅዱስ ገብርኤል ጠበል እየረጨ 'አንተ ማነህ?' ሲለው 'እባክህ አንተ አታውቀኝም! ዝም ብለህ ነው፤ ተቃጠልኩ ጊዜዬ ሲደርስ የምለቅበት ቀን አለ፡፡ እሷን የያዝኩት ከማኅፀን ጀምሮ ያሳደግኳት እኔ ነኝ' በማለት ለፈለፈ፡፡ በመቀጠል 'እናቷንም የገደልኩ እኔነኝ' ሲል ራሱን ገለጠ» በማለት መንበረ ማርያም አስረድታለች፡፡ እናቷ በካንሰር ሕመም ምክንያት በ1995 ዓ.ም ከዚህ ዓለም በሞት መለየታቸውንም ገልጣልናለች፡፡

Haset negse said...

STILL MAHIBEREKIDUSAN AS AN ISUUE

I opened the web page forwarded by a blogger called Tibebe Yemane Birhan. being obssesed with the name , i was sure i might get something out of it. But it is business as usual.
http://www.quatero.net/pdf/yehaimanot
Mr Yemane Birhan,at least try to be rational for a minute and give me an answer for this question. are u sure that Mahibere Kidusan aim is to control the church

"Eንደፃፈው ቤተክርስቲያኒቱን ለመቆጣጠር የተደራጀው ቡድን ስምAፅድቅ Aራተኛ Aመት ቁጥር 5 ቅፅ 14 / 124 የካቲት 1999 ባወጣው Eትሙ "

Hatred for no reason is one thing. Reality is another. In no times, MK has aspired to control any administrative position of the church. The only aim of MK is to support our church finacilaly, materially, and so on. It was nice if u read the by law of the association first, prior to writing such a wrong conclusion.

Aagin u stated that Mk is still doing this
"Aሁንም በAሜሪካ በAውሮፓ Eየተዘዋወረ በስደትና በEንግልት መርዙን Eየረጨ ይገኛል"
what i alaways get amazed is , why are some personalities dare enough to write things which they are not sure of. I want to again tell u that you are on the wrong direction. Mk, do have many cells still in Europe and USA. It teaches the true Tewahido Dogma and canon for every diaspora Ethiopians through various channels. I am sure u have opened the web pages Mk designed for the diaspora, the radio station in different states of UsA and europe. Can u site at least one versus of the poison MK taught. Of course i am sure u cant.

Sitting down in germany and writing empty essay may be easy as u are doing. But giving service likeMk by moving to every part of the world is not an easy task

Go ahead. keep on gossiping, insulting, scolding and Backbitting MK, as usual. But Mk will continue disseminating the true Tewahido teachings.

suprisingly u also accused Mk like this
"በሀገር ቤት የቤተክርስቲያኒቱን ልጆች ስማቸውን Eያጠፉ ከፖሊስ ጋር ግንባር ፈጥሮ የክብር ልብሳቸውን የተገፈፉ ብዙዎቹ ናቸው፡፡ "

Do want to tell me about Aba Yonas or the now pastor but the then Daniel. did u get mad when Mk exposed their hereistic teachings? even Mk did nothing with police on that occasion . But exposed their poisnous strategy to the synod , and the synod excommunicated them.

Anonymous said...

Dear Dejeselamaweyan,
Please be civil and Christian when you post your comments. Unchristian and heretic comments are no more tolerated.
ውድ ደጀ ሰላማውያን፣
በሰለጠነና ክርስቲያናዊ በሆነ መንገድ አስተየቶቻችሁን እንድትሰጡ ትለመናላችሁ። ከዚህ በሁዋላ ኢ-ክርስቲያናዊና የኑፋቄ አሽክላ የሚዘሩ አስተያየቶችን አንታገስም።
ቸር ወሬ ያሰማን።
ደጀ ሰላም

Anonymous said...

ውድ ደጀ ሰላማውያን፣
በሰለጠነና ክርስቲያናዊ በሆነ መንገድ አስተየቶቻችሁን እንድትሰጡ ትለመናላችሁ። ከዚህ በሁዋላ ኢ-ክርስቲያናዊና የኑፋቄ አሽክላ የሚዘሩ አስተያየቶችን አንታገስም።
ቸር ወሬ ያሰማን።
ደጀ ሰላም

Anonymous said...

Dear Dejeselamaweyan,
Please be civil and Christian when you post your comments. Unchristian and heretic comments are no more tolerated.

ቸር ወሬ ያሰማን።
ደጀ ሰላም

Anonymous said...

To ደጀ ሰላም !

Hey blogger live by your words.
Implement it!!!

I am not playing!!! rather crying for action from you.

ከዚህ በሁዋላ ኢ-ክርስቲያናዊና የኑፋቄ አሽክላ የሚዘሩ አስተያየቶችን አንታገስም።

ከዚህ በሁዋላ ኢ-ክርስቲያናዊና የኑፋቄ አሽክላ የሚዘሩ አስተያየቶችን አንታገስም።

ከዚህ በሁዋላ ኢ-ክርስቲያናዊና የኑፋቄ አሽክላ የሚዘሩ አስተያየቶችን አንታገስም።

ከዚህ በሁዋላ ኢ-ክርስቲያናዊና የኑፋቄ አሽክላ የሚዘሩ አስተያየቶችን አንታገስም።

ከዚህ በሁዋላ ኢ-ክርስቲያናዊና የኑፋቄ አሽክላ የሚዘሩ አስተያየቶችን አንታገስም።

ከዚህ በሁዋላ ኢ-ክርስቲያናዊና የኑፋቄ አሽክላ የሚዘሩ አስተያየቶችን አንታገስም።

ከዚህ በሁዋላ ኢ-ክርስቲያናዊና የኑፋቄ አሽክላ የሚዘሩ አስተያየቶችን አንታገስም።

Anonymous said...

huwey menafiqan??? Endiew endih beyebotaw eyegebu yibeTibiTun? Esti asibu... ri'esachin lela hono salle ahun lela neger asjemirewun yamtatunal. Ene gin yemazinew beDeje selam new:: Haimanotachinin lemisedbu menafiqan edil seTito beselam endamiweyay mefqedu:: Egzi'o meharene Krstos!!!

Adera yemilachihu said...

አስተያየት ለደጀ ሰላም እና ደጀ ሰላማውያን፣

I would like to suggest a simple rule of thumb to guide us on how to remain focused on the subject of discussion.

Could we agree that any post, regardless of its content,if it is not directly related to the topic of discussion be deleted by the blogger? It can be posts from Tewahedo faithfuls that are not related to the topic under discussion or heretic posts from "Ewnetu" and his hosts.

Some times when we try to comment on posts made by the heretics, we maintain unneccessary dialogue diverting people's attention.

If geniune Tewahedo faithfuls have very important issues to share but not related to the subject under discussion,then they can either wait for related topic or more importantly to e-mail the blogger to prepare it for moderation in a well organized way.

We sholud know and expect even more from Menafikan(heretics) that they don't like our faith in Tewahedo and it is not a surprise.

Do we have to justify ourselves to those who are here for one and only one objective,i.e,heresy? I don't think so and I hope many will agree with me.
If they are serious about learning and repenting they can approach church fathers in person and their LIFE can be renewed/ reformed.(NOT reforming or renewing Tewahedo faith!!!)

Last but not least, I know it is not a very simple task for the blogger to scrutinize every single post but we are pleading to you to go an extra-mile for the sake of our Tewahedo faith which was once entrusted to Holy fathers.( Jude 1-3 )

For instance,you may assign one person if you could manage( as I assume you may be busy with many other duties) from your part to carry out the task of ensuring the guideline.

May God bless us!

Adera

EthioMonitor said...

Greetings brothers and sisters, helo DS!

Thank you very much for composing this great petition.

May GOD hear our voices!

I've tried to make some optical modifications on the Petition, which you can find it at my Blog.

I hope it might suit you.

Bless you all!

EthioMonitor said...

በስመ አብ ወወልድ ወመንፈስ ቅዱስ አሐዱ አምላክ: አሜን!

As the spiritual content of this wonderfully composed petition shows, and as Christians born into and raised in churches of the ETOC, of course, it grieves us all to tears to think that the aforementioned types of misconduct may have gone on for so many years under the purview of the central administration of our beloved church.

If what we have heard and read in the past couple of weeks is true – if even 10% of it is true – the conduct of those who have participated in these actions is simply unthinkable, it's shocking, immoral, criminal, reprehensible! And it is the individuals who perpetrated these actions who must answer for what they did. For it is they who have deeply harmed the Church.

We can only hope, that, by now, the Holy Synod is fully aware of the allegations and should be expected to act on them, quickly and decisively. Make no mistake about it: if the Holy Synod has in fact now opened an investigation into this, fact-finding and conclusions should not, and cannot, take months or years. The length and breadth of the alleged improprieties are such that the parties who may be responsible could be called in and questioned, records expeditiously reviewed, and judgments rendered in days, or weeks.

The Holy Synod must deal with this – what other word can possibly apply? – scandal, and must deal with it now. If anyone has learned anything over the past decade about the wisdom of attempting to cover up problems and deny accountability "for the good of the Church," one need look no farther than the terrible harm done to the Roman Catholic Church, when our brothers there attempted to hide the pedophile problem, presumably "for the good of the Church." We can only pray that the Holy Synod will act as they must.

The Holy Synod must acknowledge that problems have existed for a long time, and then outline what steps are being taken to correct those irregularities and misdeeds. The Holy Synod must hold accountable all those individuals – without exception – who participated in or condoned the administrative related mismanagement and foul behavior.

In the secular business world, or, in government, individuals who are involved in outrageous wrongdoing, such as that alleged in the petition writing, are punished with the loss of their jobs or, in extreme cases, with criminal sanctions. If what we heard and read is true, is there any reason why those responsible should not be punished, and removed from their duties and any control they have over Church duties?

Now is the time, when we need tears of regret and repentance more than ever, as King David told us: “Those who sow in tears shall reap in joy” - (psalms 126:5)

yetsyon said...

Z-baptist and Feker, For the EOC Aba Woldetensae is the most dangerous person than say say colonialists or the openly pentes etc. He has convinced you both that you can trust him to have access to your hearts to modify your thoughts in the way he presents it to you. Comes now the matter of key theological divergence from EOC in the form of sweet rolls of talk. You can't like his sermons and same time not be convinced by him that Appostoliic succcesion is irrelevant. The minute you are convinced of that you are no loneger a Christian. Go look at his preachings and you find that he says..Iyesus Kristos is an Amalaj, that Appostolic succession is unnecessary, that Saint Yared is no different from Bethoven etc

To try to compromise God's things because some one is your mendertegna or because he is endowed with oratory is not somethings, I think, that bodes well with God

John Ze Baptist said...

Yetsone: I heard many seremons by him (Aba Wolde Tensae). I don't find any thing him saying Jesus is Amalage or Appostolic succession is unnecessary. If he say so it is not teaching of either bible or our tradition. But what let us make sure we didn't misunderstand our preachers.

I am not TEBEKA for the man but I think true fathers should be treated in good way.

But you guessed Tesfa to be Aba Woldtensae. Tesfa is saying the church is Tenkuay. He is claiming the church is under tinkola. He totally for distruction of the church. How can he be an orthodox preacher? I don't know what your argument is?

Any ways, I don't worry who that man is because there are lots of people whom I know (protestants) who are giving us this name. But we thank God as we are having this name for false reason because we worshipped God in the true and orginal church of Christ.

God Bless Orthodoxy

yetsyon said...

Z Baptist,
Get Aba Woldetensae's cassette titled " Abune Teklehaimanot"..in there he says, Apostolic Succession is irrelevant. Also listen to his Sermon about Kidest Mariam in the tehadso website called ethiopianorthodox.org. There he says "Iyesus is Amalaj" . He says, when Dr Getachew Haile writes about dekike Estifanos he is a hero, when I do what dekike Estifanos do I am a tehadiso. He says there is a tribal element to the judgment of those who are from the south. He also says when Abune Gorgorios says Asama bilu he is a saint, when I say it I am a tehadiso.

Long story short, Aba Woldetensae is tsere Tewahido through and through. Don't be fooled by his cunning maneuvers. He has but single handedly convinced (forget others) MK that asama shall be eatn by EOC folks. And these are the guys he hates with fury. That much he sways. Heed if you will; many are obstinate on this matter and I see many who do so swallowed up by the beast lurking in the pit

John Ze Baptist said...

Dear Yetsone, I didn't listen the preaching titled "Tekle Haimanot" but I heard most of the preachings at EthiopianOrthodox.org specially his preachings. I am not defending other preachers there.

In the other side, I am member of MK. I think I understand both MK and his preachings. I don't find any visual difference. It is a matter of understanding. I don't find problems in his preachings there except some of the tones he uses to accuse some of his defendants (opposites) may be MK.

I listen to his seremons like dogma and cannon, wongel be orit lay, Kidus Michael etc...

I also learn in Gibi Gubaye by MK people. And my understanding to both is the same. May be a matter of expression. I don't know if I mis some thing but still I agree with his preachings and his arguments.

Alem said...

dear still I have problem when I post in paltalk I dont know why. will you help me with this staff please. By the way am just wondering why peoples are denying the truth they ,,,ohhhh I have challenge every day in the room ,I have question for you who are deje selam they are asking me will give me hint? I agree on this petition its really time to work hard on it.
Egizabher le betcristian mefthe yestate Amen.

Orthodox unit said...

Alem, I don't understand what do you mean by paltalk. There is no need to use paltalk.

What you should do is follow the following steps
1. click “ፔቲሽን” in the script about the petition or copy and paste
http://www.petitiononline.com/synod/petition.html
on address bar of the internet explorer.
then you will get the document of the petition
2.Click "Sign the Petition" on the page you get
3. Enter the required texts like Name and email Address. You can ignore optionals
Name: (required)
4.Click "Sign petition" button.
This will send your signature.

If you are still with problem just inform me.Give me the error that you get. Or we can chat. my email is christtewahedo@gmail.com

As far as your concern about Deje Selam. I don't think it is important knows them. I don't know them and it is not my concern them. I just read articles over there.
for further articles read:
1. http://deje-selam.blogspot.com/2009/08/blog-post_05.html
2. http://deje-selam.blogspot.com/2009/07/blog-post_5155.html

bili said...

"i command you don't use this name for the next don't cheat your blind followers" .ተስፋ said
ቂቂቂቂቂ አዪ አለማወቅህ
ያንተ እንኩዋን ዐይነ ልቡናህ ዐይንህ አያይም ይሄ ሁሉ ደጀ ሰላማዊ እውር ፣ይሄ ሁሉ አንተን የሚመክርና የሚገስጥ ክርስቲያን እውር ፣ ጠልይ እስቲ ! የእውቀት ባለቤት እግዚአብሄር መንፈስ ቅዱስ ዐይነ ልቦናህን ያብራልህ አሜን
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