August 5, 2009

Regarding Comments: Editorial

Dear Dejeselamaweyan,
(Deje Selam; August 4/2009):-We have read different comments regarding comment-moderation. Some say, posting comments should be open while others stand against it. Some of you even go as far as aliening Deje Selam with people like Tesfa and blasphemers. One writer said, quote:

If you continue to give space to the anti-Tewahedo harangues of the protestant "tesfa",and his likes, you are responsible for the propaganda damage caused by these people against our Tewahedo Orthodox Church. Many have repeatedly asked you to remove any and all anti-Tewahedo comments.


Well, we have two options here: we should either shut the comment page or leave it ope so that we may share ideas. We, on the part of Deje Selam team, can not let open at the same time go after each and every comment to delete the bad ones. That is technically impossible. We have many things to do, friends. Come on!!! Blogging is not our full time job. Thus, let us forget the bad ones, and try to win over them. Let us not read what they write. Just ignore them and read what is good for us.
Unless we see the bad ones and ignore or stand them, how can we be called Christians? Why don't you ask God to dstroy Satan alltogether sothat people will no more be cheated by him? That is very fulish guys. There are good and evil people every where. We fight the evil, and go with the good ones. Ok? That is how we see it. If there are people who do not accept this and think we are supporting whoever is writing bad here, we cant help it. Go open your blog and do whatever you want to do. This is a free world. We are trying to do our best.

Cher Were Yaseman,
Amen

11 comments:

Dan said...

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

Freedom of speech is important, even to the point of defending the indefensible. That means we are going to defend the right of people to read, or to write, or to speak. We must accept this fundamental part of democratic value or culture.

I have disapproved a number of comments and the low level of thinking of some of the opinion, some are even tendentious nonsense, but I will defend their right to write or speak their mind.

The only way to know the truth is by confronting false, not by hiding it.

I would advice commenter to read their comments and reflect on it before posting on a public place such us a blog.

As a principle I use the general advice I read on Desiderata.
“As far as possible, without surrender, 
be on good terms with all persons. 

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; 
and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; 
they too have their story.”
But also it says

“Avoid loud and aggressive persons; 
they are vexatious to the spirit.”

Having said that the bloger has the right to edit as he sees it fit. If anyone doesn’t like his editorial judgment that person is free to move on to other blogs and express himself.

Finnaly I do not expect everyone to agree with my statement

I wanted to write this comment በ አማርኛ but it takes a lot of time to write on በ አማርኛ keyboard.


Thank you all
Dan

Anonymous said...

I agree with deje selam, God gave us two ears to listen more but the brain is in the middle to judge and one mouth to speak little

tad said...

I approve what Deje Selam said. We all are grown up and our EOC has nothing to fear about. So why get nervous and bite anybody who disagree with us/. Our Lord Jesus Christ spent +33yrs among those who hated him and oppossed him 24/7. Le us her what our oppononets say and defend our church professionally.

Dan said...

TAD, I agree with your general point but when you say "Our Lord Jesus Christ spent +33yrs among those who hated him and oppossed(spl) him.." you probably meant to say he was opposed by the phrase. Because it was the Pharisees, whose goodness was all for show, who opposed him and his teaching. The multitude LOVED HIM. "Jesus was curing many people who had diseases, sicknesses, and evil spirits. Also, he was giving back sight to many who were blind." LUKE 7:21.
We just wish as St. Peter said to the church leaders "..be shepherds of God's flock that is under your care" so we love them too. But as we are witnessing they are giving us grief.

tad said...

Dan:
My comment earlier was meant addressing the issue of whether to ban tesfa's comment and the like or not from DJ. Regarding our church leaders no right no left we have to hold them accountable. I am with you no doubt sir.

Anonymous said...

በእኔ እምነት የነጻ አስተያየት አምዳችሁ እጅግ መልካም ነገር ነው፣ የተለየ ሃሳብን የማስተናገድ ችግር በሰፊው ለሚስተዋልብን ለእኛ ለኢትዮጵያውያን ጥሩ የመማሪያ አጋጣሚ ስለሚሆን በዚሁ ቀጥሉ፣ ለምን ይህን ታደርጋላችሁ የሚሉት ራሳቸው ሊማሩት የሚችሉ በርካታ ቁም ነገር አለና የሚያደስታቸውን አስተያየት ብቻ መፈለጋቸው መንፈሰ ደካማነትን ከሚያመለክት በቀር የብስለት ምልክት አይመስለኝም፣ የተለዩና አንዳንዴም ጠንከር ያሉ ሃሳቦችን በማስተናገድ እንማር/እንማማር እንጂ በሃይማኖትም!

Anonymous said...

To The Ownner of Deje-Selam.Blog,

Part 1:

We read with dismay your response to the issue raised by Mekit Yeka Mikael. Your reponse is more of a "political arbiter" trying to "defend" "free speech" with all it's extras. These ideas of politics are acceptable in the realm of politics. What is fundamentally missing from your response is that we are here in the midst of a structural crisis in our church, with all it's
consequences unless a unified effort is made to save our church from evil intruders! And in this regard we have been supportive of Deje-Selam in all it's efforts.

There is no one here who can convince us that Tewahedo Christians are pleased to be antagonized by protestant propagandists an a Tewahedon Orthodox blog. We appreciate the dedication of the owner of the blog to matters concening our church.

What Many have said is that the ownner should do editorial work and remove the anti-Tewahedo comments which are being pasted here in the name of "freedom of speech".


Mekit Yeka Mikael

Anonymous said...

To The Owner of DEje-Selam.Blog,

Part 2:


We are convinced that it takes only an extra dedication to tell the tresspassers to go and practice their freedom of speech on protestant blogs. We Tewahedo Christians are not only asking
the bloger to edit his blog, but we are also actively doing our part to advance the common call for preparation for the October Synode.
That can we do ONLY if we can manage our discussion by protecting the rights of Tewahedo Orthodox Christians To practice our "freedom of speech" in matters concerning our own church. Only when we delineate this line of conduct can we contribute for the
solution of the problems in the patriarchate. Let us make use of this blog to join Tewahedo Orthodox hearts and minds to develop well thoughtout viewpoints
to help our struggling abatoch to overcome the forces of YeTifat Rekuset who are doing a great damage to our church and country!

The viewpoint written by the owner of this blog:

"Well, we have two options here: we should either shut the comment page or leave it ope so that we may share ideas. We, on the part of Deje Selam team, can not let open at the same time go after each and every comment to delete the bad ones. That is technically impossible. We have many things to do, friends. Come on!!! Blogging is not our full time job. Thus, let us forget the bad ones, and try to win over them. Let us
not read what they write. Just ignore them and read what is
good for us."

The above view is not a satisfactory answer to the
central issues of concern. No doubt the blogger is not doing this full time. No doubt the blogger has his life to live.
But aren’t the likes of us also giving you support?! Aren’t we there everyday to advance the interests of Tewahedo-Ethiopia?! Look at it humbly. You are not alone when it comes to defending our church!And non of us have questioned your dedication. We are trying to help you see matters not with your two eyes only. As good as that may be, we need all our eyes, hearts and minds in our striuggle today if we want to safeguard our Tewahed Orthodox Doctrine and all the children of our church including those abatoch who are struggling against the pheariseans of the patrirchate!



Mekit Yeka Mikael

Anonymous said...

To The Owner of Deje-Selam.Blog,

Part 3:

We were particularly saddened by this comment of yours:

“Unless we see the bad ones and ignore or stand them, how can we be called Christians? Why don't you ask God to destroy Satan alltogether so that people will no more be cheated by him? That is very foolish guys.”

These words of yours are neither well thought out, nor do they reflect any sign of a pious Orthodox fountain of thought. Let us explain.

It is a viewpoint devoid of the fear of God, very typicaö by those who are antagonising us. It is not in the Orthodox tradition of piousness to be more Babylonian than the Babylonians. Such thinking and formulation are not in the tradition of the teachings of our church!

“Why don’t you ask God to destroy Satan altogether so that people will no more be cheated by him”?

We have been never confronted by such a devious and non-Orthodox thought format in all our lives! We don’t question God! We follow his command without any such banal and worldly questioning of God’s Authority!That is how far we have come. May God forgive us!

The advice you were given was to edit the comments on your blog so as to remove the protestans from mixing in our midst and castigating our church history. Instead of confronting this issue seriously you went as far as writing this abominable phrases of yours which are reflective of the damages done to our youth by anti-Orthox wworkshops of ideas. Think about this matter also seriously unless you want to downgrade us all to the cursed position of the devil to question God’s Creation!

To ask you to edit the antagonizing comments by the protestans is not asking to much! And it can be done! But you were more prepared to be contrary than to see the constructive ideas as to why we desire the exclusion of these firebrands. If we let the do their poisoning by arguing that we can't edit their comments dubbing it"not technically possible", we are succumbing to their purpose of bringing Tewahedo Christians against "each other"!

In our case we can guarantee you we shall never permit such anti-Tewahedo behavior. We are not also here for self-advertisement or any other interest except to help consolidate original Tewahedo Thought and Practice by uniting with those who are uncompromisingly dedicated to the purposes and objectives of the Tiqimt Synodos of our church.

This cannot be accomplished in the manner the blogger wants to continue by giving unedited space to those whose comments are there only to anatagonize us, period! And there is no reason to accommodate those who are subverting our church in the name of “freedom of speech”! We are partricipating hear not for reasons of the political right “freedom of speech”, but to be a part of the Orthodox grassroots movement to consolidate the God-fearing and Law-abiding abatoch in our church!

By saying: "If you like it, good. If you don't like it you can go ahead and start your own r blog" is not in the interest of our church. This is a weakness which must be overcome only if you can see it as such! Such ideas do not portray well thought out reflections! They don’t facilitate the development of the much desired Orthodox solidarity to overcome the evil that confronts us! Remove any and all comments which are not associated with the fundamental issues we in our church are discussing! You can do it. Just give it a try!

Many Orthodox Christians are ready to help! Only with such determination and bringing all the sons and daughters of our church can we overcome evil forces which have taken grip of the patriarchate.


May Medhanie Alem Enlighten Us and Lead Us to the Victory of His Cross! Amen!!!


Mekit Yeka Mikael

Melkamu said...

Yetebareke Felseta!

Dear Mekit Yeka Mikael,

You raised a very good point. I think DS should listen to you. Our inability to listen is one of the crucial factors that affect our communications. We can see that at the highest level with our leaders, and we see it everwhere with our friends, brothers and sisters. We have it easier to solve this problem. If we don't do it, we should not expect it to happen at a higher level, with our leaders.

Prov 12:15 Fools thing their own way is right, but the wise listen to advice.

Bless you all!

Warren Farrell said...

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