August 31, 2009

የማፊያው ቡድን አባል በአሜሪካ

(ደጀ ሰላም፤ ኦገስት 31/2009)፦ የማፊያው ቡድን አባል የሆነ አባ ኃ/ሚካኤል ወ/ተ/ሃይማኖት የተባለ መነኩሴ ከቡድኑ ልሳን ከሆነው ከንጉሴ ወ/ማርያም ጋር በማበር አዲስ የጥቃት ዘመቻ ጀምሯል። ጥቃቱ ለጊዜው ያነጣጠረው በማኀበረ ቅዱሳን ላይ ሲሆን መነኩሴው ከኢትዮጵያ ይዤ መጣኋቸው በሚላቸው “መረጃዎች” ሕዝቡን ለማሳመን ከፍተኛ ጥረት በማድረግ ላይ ይገኛል። የመኑሴው ዓላማ ማኀበረ ቅዱሳንን ብቻ ማጥቃት ላይ እንዳልሆነ በግልጽ ተናግሯል። በተለይም ግልጽ መግለጫ በማውጣት ቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ የበላይ፣ ቅዱስ ፓትርያርኩ ደግሞ ተጠሪነታቸው ለቅ/ሲኖዶስ መሆኑን ያስረዱት ብፁዕ አቡነ አብርሃምም የጥቃቱ ዒላማ ናቸው።
ሁለት “ደጀ ሰላማውያን” አድማሱና ተክለ-እስጢፋኖስ የጻፉት ጽሑፍና ያቀረቧቸው ጥያቄዎች ለሌሎቻችን መልካም በመሆናቸው እዚህ ለጥፈናቸዋል።

admasu said...
I am writing this mail to the monk who appeared as an insider to 'teklay bete kihinet' and a researcher about the ‘satanic acts of MK’ on Ato Negussie's radio show. If by any chance you read this message, I wish I got answers for the following simple questions;
1. If you are really now in 'America', where is your exact location? Or to be more precise; where are you serving the church now? Who sends you to the US? Is it the Holy Synod or the Holy Patriarch? What is the purpose of your trip? At what capacity are you serving now? Are you still the head of the department? Do you contact any of the members of the Holy Synod residing in North America? Do any of them share your assertions about the church? I am asking these because I believe you are zealous to the church's hierarchy and obedient to its rules.
2. You mentioned that someone from the MK was before the court for libeling a church father. Who was the plaintiff in the case? Did he try to resolve the dispute in other way before he took it to the court? And most importantly what was the verdict?
3. Finally I heard you saying “these bandits of MK deceived the youth from the truth by telling ‘teret teret’ instead of the true Gospel of the Lord.” I think here is the real difference between you and the MK. Can you please tell us some of the ‘terets’ MK teaches the youth?

My brothers and sisters, it is not my intention to divert your attention from the ‘current issue’ but I believe this discussion is part of the church’s problem in two grounds; one, there are a group of people who want to use this forum to deceive participants from the truth and spread their hearsays and by mentioning MK negatively here and there they are trying to hit two birds with a single stone. Two, if we cautiously follow what they are saying and writing we can figure out who these people are and what they really want from our beloved church.
Let’s try to purify our hearts from hatred, since hatred has never been a solution except perpetuating hatred.
God Bless all of us.
Admasu
August 30, 2009
tekle stephnos said...
የተወደድክ አድማሱ፦

የመነኩሴው ክስ እኔንም ግራ አጋብቶኛል። መነኩሴው እዚህ ስለመሆናቸው ምንም ማረጋገጫ የለም። የምናውቀው ሃቅ ግን አለ፤ይሄውም

፩ በርግጥ መነኩሴው እዚህ ካሉ ለዚሁ ተልኮ ሲሉ በአባ ሠረቀ አስተባባሪነት ከቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ እውቅና ውጭ በቅርስ ዘራፊው እና በቤተ-ክህነቱ ማፊያ ቡድን የተላኩ እዚህ በሃገረ አሜሪካ ያለውን የኦርቶዶክስ ተዋህዶ አማኝ አሁን ከምንገኝበት የተበላሸ ውጥንቅጡ የወጣ አስተዳደር ለማስተካከል እያደረግ ያለውን መንፈሳዊ ውጊያ ለመበታተን የተላኩ አጭበርባሪ ናቸው። ምክንያቱም ተልኳቸው ይህ ባይሆንማ ኖሮ የቢሯቸው መዝገብ (docment)ይዞ እዚህ ድረስ የሚያስመጣቸው ነገር አይታየኝም።

፪ኛው ደግሞ አማኙ ህዝብ ማስተዋል ያለብን መነኩሴው ካነጋገራቸው መረዳት እንደምንቸለው እዚህ እያገለገሉ ያሉት በእናት ቤተ-ክርስቲያን ስር ባለች ቤተ-ክርስቲያን ውስጥ ካሉን በኋላ ነገር ግን ከሀገረ ስብከቱ ሊቀ ጳጳስ ከብአቡነ አብርሃም ትዕዛዝ አንደማይቀበሉ እና እንዳልተቀበሉት ነግረውናል። የቤተ-ክርስትያኒቷም ችግር ይሄው የበላይ የሰጠውን መመሪያ እታች ያለው ተቀብሎ አለመፈሠም። መነኩሲው በእብሪት የነገሩን አለመታዘዛቸውን ነው። እነዚህን ተባዮች ነው እንግዲህ መላው የኢትዮጵያ ኦርቶዶክስ ተዋህዶ አማኝ ውጊያ የገጠመው። አንድዬ ይርዳን።

50 comments:

Tesfa said...

I think their words speak of who they are and what they want to do in the mother church. We need to follow these guys and expose who they really are and what their intention is.It is then we can make them close their mouth. But it is not by false accusation, hate and denial. But with due respect, reality and modest behavior as a christian. I strongly believe these people are criminals who are doing the damn thing in our church. What they did during the last meeting of the Holly Synod was a magnificent evidence. Why they dare to go that far and attack our respected and Holly fathers? Why they prefer the darkness while the Holly fathers were speaking in a light of the day? Why they use force if they are trying to save the church? what are the crimes of MK despite teaching the Gospel in the day light? I think for sure that they are doing this and fighting their last breath because the truth is going to expose their crimes on the church and church people and they are going to lose a lot. They are doing this because our lord has raised his stick and start cleansing the church from these criminals. They are attacking MK because they think it is Mk who is exposing them, but not, it is our Lord who is saving the church which he loved to death. I do not think they will benefit by attacking MK and other church daughters and sons, rather they are losing. I said this because what they are talking is contradictory and empty accusation for which they can not present any evidence. In addition it is highly polarized that even there is no any small piece of truth which at least can even help them to deceive those yewahans. I think we need to think more of what we should do to support our church during these challenging times than what these guys are talking, and of course with prayers.Amen

Anonymous said...

I am a member to Mahibere Kidusan. In my few years of experience as member, MK has never ever been free from accusations like what is reported here. And we members are comfortable with that. My question is why Deje Selam is concerned for MK. Is it because DS is the hidden weapon of MK as it is largely speculated? We remember that MK has made its point clear that it has no blog doing good or bad about the church. That is no blog or site except the official publications namely Hamer, Sema Tsidk, http://www.eotc-mkidusan.org, http://eotc-mkidusan.org. In my view, DS should not be worried to defend MK or report on behalf of the association. I am sure the centre (where I belong to) will have the legal and moral ground to officially challenge the accusation or wisely ignore it. Dear blogger, I appreciate what you are doing. But don't give ground for the wrong thinkers showing your concern for our association. Thank you.

ደጀ-ሰላም said...

Dear MK member,

We are not defending you or your Mahiber. You can not tell us what to report or what not to report. We will report and continue to report what we think, our conscious tells us right, and whatever we think is good for our Mother Church. If you think that is NOT good for MK, then go ahead and create your won blog or use your websites. Ok?
Cher Were Yaseman,
DS

Haymanot said...

"Ye-Ayit Mesekrua Dinbit"

MK or Deje selam Yemetseruten sera Egziabher eko yayewal.

Anonymous said...

Dear Dejeselam,
This is a comment based on your replay to the person who asked you:
You said:
We are not defending you or your Mahiber.

I think no body say you are defending any body, what they are saying is that it is not good to raise things for controversy...rather than finding ways to solve problems

You said:
You can not tell us what to report or what not to report.

Ofcourse no body can say that, but we users have right to recommened what we feel... if you are saying that shut up your mouth, we wacn shut both our mouth and our eyes too.
You said:
We will report and continue to report what we think,

Please do not report what you think rather lebetekirstiyan yemitekim (you also mentioned)...

You said:
If you think that is NOT good for MK,

I think we should take care of our church before anything else... so please provide us what we need, rather what menafikans need (that is our conflict)....

You said:
then go ahead and create your won blog or use your websites. Ok?

Whay we come to your blog and you are sneding us to another place... Engida mekebel tiru silehone, engidochachuhn bedenb bitastenagidu yishalal Elalehu.


Cher Were Yaseman,
AbroYaseman
DS

Anonymous said...

My brother or sister that concerned about MK. I would like to tell you that MK can not be or should not be left from the current EOTC problem. It is not the problem of defending MK or another association. It is a question of how save and protect our mother church. I know MK and I support what the association is doing in Ethiopia, in Africa, Europe, and America for EOTC. What I do not agree is that always when MK is mentioned in the discussion or on comments, few MK members want to defend the assicaition rather than defending the church and stand for the truth. You put first your assocaition and second the church as if the assocaiton is your "religion". We all ETOC members need to stand for our chruch and support the Holy Synod at this critical time. God created MK when the time required for the church and we never know what will happen next. I really appricate the work and contribution that MK does for the church but you need to come to your mind and make the church first. If our church's problem continues like this, you know that MK is in danger. I pray to the Almighty God that not to happen what we all do not want see. Most of the MK memebers know that how the assocaition is in difficult sitiuation right now. But let's stand together, MK members, non- MKs, and all true EOTC memebrs at this difficult time and defend our church from all evil attempts to discourse the church's spritial course.

Let God protect our church and give strength for our true church fathers to stand up for truth and reconcilation.

Anonymous said...

As a proud member of MK, I am quite confident that MK can defend itself without the help of any blogger who always want to fire up things by reporting yeteleqaqemu worewoch than a farsighted stories and useful features full of recommendations. Advice not my mahiber, babe yawum kind of advice to open a blog. Blog can not and never be a solution honey. It knows what to do when it finds it important. The chronic problems of our church today are those who want to make business from the ongoing crises like you, Nigussie and the abba you reported for. In that interview, the abba openly charged Abune Abraham and Memher Berhanu. Where are they to defend their names and the diocese they are assigned for? MK is a recognized association in the church which has responsibility and accountability. Do not ruin its name and endangered it by presenting your blog as a concerned blogger for MK. Blog for the church not for MK as it is not a problem or has one to be fixed. Keep on fighting the good fight in trying to liberate the church from the colonizers. Sorry if I am a bit...

ሰናይ said...

Dear DS, why can't you ignore the Devils(Nigussie and the "Abba") and focus on how to tackle church's problems? The more we discuss about them, the more they spread their haters! "Balege ena wusha siroTulet ayiwedim!" I don't know why some participants focus a lot on MK. MK has its own media where it can and is expressing its opinion about these situations. Members of MK, don't defend MK blindly, first read and understand the stand of your association.

I can't understand why some people don't sense the burning problem of the church? Let's focus on the main topic not on MK or Nigussie's radio...

Dear DS,I'm not happy with the way you replied to the Mk member. Have respect to your clients and behave as Christians." ከፍሬያቸው ታውቁዋችሁዋላችሁና....

Senay.

Tazabiwu said...

Dear brothers,
What is the problem with the blogger if he writes about MK or Nigussie? The blogger a person who rises issues for discussion. It is upto us to discuss, share informaton and knowledge. In addition it is us who are expected to bring solution to the crises in the church.

The blogger has been trying to address different issues related to the problem in the church. But we have been fighting rather than coming to one point.

As anonymouse said above, dear respected MK members please always make the church first in every aspect of your service rather than the association. This is the same problem I faced as a member. we have to work for protecting our church rather than our association.

Anonymous said...

Hey guys.. don't argue. It is okay for DS to report whatever he/she heard. And the judgment is ours.

So, don't tell DS what to report and what not; because, so far we have seen that whatever DS reports are good to know for us and know who is who.

So,... argue on the core points, not on procedures

tad said...

Mk should have known earlier that it is the EOC not MK that matters most. I have been arguing this with most of their senior members for many years. Haimanotabew made the same mistake forty yrs a go. MK should change its behaviour befor it is too late.

ewnetu said...

ተመስገን ጌታ ሆይ እውነት ሳትውል ሳታድር እራሷን አጋልጣ ቁጭ አለች ደጀ ሰላሞች ያነሳችሁት እውነት ስለሆነ አትጨነቁ ተልባ ቢንጫጫ በአንድ ሙቀጫ ይላል ያገሬ ሰው ለምን እውነት ተነገረ ብለው ነው ማቆች እምቡር እምቡር የሚሉት ደሮም እኮ ሃይማኖታቸው ማህበረ ቅዱሳን እንጂ የኢትዮጵያ ኦርቶዶክስ እንዳልሆነ ብዙ ጊዜ ተናግረናል ድሮም ተዋህዶ ከውጭ ጠላቶቿ የውስጥ ጠላቶቿ ይበልጣሉ አዎ ደግሞ ደጋግሜ እላለሁ
ማህበረ ሰይጠናች እስቲ ምን ይዋጣችሁ በግራም በቀኝም በፊትም በሃላም በላይም በታችም በእውነት ተከባችሃል ዘመኑ አለቀ እንደ ለመዳችሁት አባ እከላን ፓስተር እከሌ ማለት አትችሉም ተነቃባችሁ ዋናውን የወንጌል ተቆርቁሪ መናፍቅ ማለት አትችሉም ፓትርያሪካችሁን ስነት ግዜ ብጹዕ እገሌ ገለመሌ ስተሉት ኖራችሁ ዛሬ አይንህነ ላፈር አላችሁት ለምን የናንተን ውንብድና ስለተቃወሙ እንደው ለዚሀ ለዚህስ ለናንተ ሲባል አባ ገ/መድሀን ዘለአለም ይኑሩ ዛሬም ለእውነት የቆሙ አባቶች የናንተን የሃሰት ሰይፍ ሳይፈሩ እውነትን መስክረዋል እየመሰከሩ ነው ቀኑ መሸ የሚወናበድ የለም ከእንደግዲህ የሰይጣን ስብስብም ለተዋህዶ አይጠቅማትም አከተመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመመ

ይቆየን
ደሰ በርቱ ለእውነት አትተኙ

Anonymous said...

Dear ewnetu, you are trying to attack the ETOC by hangging on the back of MK. Your comment is out of the context and it is clear that what is your point. We have seen all your blogges and I think no one gives you attention for your out of context point. MK has revealed all hidden activities by the so called "Menkuses" that they were trying to destroy our mother church from inside.I do not think the threat is over, but still alive and we all true EOTC memebers should fight for the protection of our mother church.

Your other problem is you do not know MK in depth and what difficult course travled in the history of the assocaition.I am not speaking on the behalf of MK but we have to speak the truth.

If you have a real discussion point raise it and let all of us point out our thoughts and make respectful discussions. But with due respect, your previous attempts were to derail the discussion from the single important issue of protecting our church.

God bless our church.

zemecha said...

ደጀ ሰላም የማፈያው ቡድን ሬድዮ ያቀረበውን ለውይይት ማቅረብህ ተገቢ ነው እላለሁ
ምክንያቱም ከወቅታዊው የቤተ ክርስቲያኒቱ ችግር ጋር የተያያዘ በመሆኑ በዚህ ሬድዮ የሚብጠለጠሉትን አካላት ብናስተውል በቀጥታም ይሁን በተዘዋዋሪ የማፍያው ቡድን በቤተ ክርስቲያን ላይ እያደረሰ ያለውን ጉዳት እየተቃወሙ ያሉትን ነው ንጉሴ የጥቅሙ ተቁዋዳሽ በመሆኑ ነው በየሳምንቱ የሚያጉዋራው ውሻ በበላበት ይጮሓል እንዲሉ ከዚህ በፊት በደጀ ሰላም የቀረበውን ለቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ አባላት የቀረበውንና አቡዋራ ያስነሳውን ጥናታዊ ጥሁፍ ልብ ይሉዋል አስር ሺህ ዶላር ጉቦ ተቀብሉዋል ያ ልምድ ስላለው ይመስለኛል ማህበረ ቅዱሳንን ጉቦ እየሰጠ ነው እድሜውን ያራዘመው ሊል የበቃው ለነገሩ የንጉሴ አፈ ጉባኤ ሆነው የቀረቡት መነኩሴ ተብየው ይህን በግልጥ ተናግረውታል የማህበሩን ደንብ ያጠደቁት ጳጳሳት ሁሉ ከማህበሩ ጉቦ ተቀብለዋል ነው ያሉን በማህበረ ቅዱሳን ሬዲዮ ላይ አንዱ መላሽ ይህን ሲሉ ከፓትርያርኩ ጀምሮ የቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ አባላትን ሁሉ ወንጅለዋል እንዳለው ይህ አባ ተብየው የቅዱስ ሲኖዶስ አባላትን በሙሉ ጉበኛ ናቸው በማለቱ ቤተ ክርስቲያናችንን እያዋረደ ነው የውስጥ የአርበኝነት ተልኮውን እየፈጸመ ነው በገንዘብ የገዛው ንጉሴ እርሱም በገንዘብ ተገዝቶ ህጋዊ ሰውነት ያላቸው አካላት ሁሉ መብታቸው ተከብሮ ባለባት አሜሪካ ያለፍርሃት ሲሳደብ በተለይ ስመ ገናና የሆነው ማህበረ ቅዱሳን ያን ያህል የንጉሴ ሬዲዮ የሥድብ መማሪያ ሲሆን ዝም ማለቱ እየገረመኝ ያለ ነገር ነው አባላቱ የሀገሪቱን ህግ ባያውቁ ነው እንዳልል ከንጉስ ያልተናነሰ ስድብ ይሆንብኛል ታዲያ ይህን ያህል ሲፎልልባቸው ምነው ዝምታን መምረጣቸው?እንደበረከት እየቆጠሩት ይሆን? ቀኝህን ለሚመታሕ ግራህን አዙረህ ስጠው ሲባል እንደው የማንም ጋጠ ወጥ መጫወቻ ሁኑ መባሉ እንዳልሆነ ምስጢርን እያመሰጠሩ ለሚያስተምሩት የማህበረ ቅዱሳን መምህራን የተሰወረ አይመስለኝም ስለዚህ ይህን የስድብ መምህርን ከነደቀ መዛሙርቱ በህግ ልክ ብታገቡዋቸው እነርሱንም በፈወሳችሁዋቸው ነበር መቼም መንግስተ ሰማያት በስድብ የምትወረስ ቢሆን ኖሮ ንጉሴንና ግብር አበሮቹን የሚቀድማቸው ይኖራል ብÀ አልገምትም የንጉሴስ ይሁን አንደኛውኑ አገር አውቆ አጽድቆለታል ምናልባት መልካም ንግግር ከአንደበቱ የወጣ እንደሆነ ነው ሰው ብርቅ ድንቅ የሚሆንበት መነኩሴ ተብየው ደግሞ ከምን ቤተ ናቸው ፍየል ከመድረስዋ ቅጠል መበጠስዋ እንዲሉ ምንኩስናቸውን ጥያቄ ምልክት ውስጥ እስኪገባ ድረስ የማህበረ ቅዱሳን አባልትስ ይሁኑ ምናልባት ቁርሾ ይኖራቸዋል ወይ ያው የተወገዘው የተሀድሶ አባል ሆነው አግኝተዋቸው አጋልጠዋቸው ይሆናል እኔ እንኩዋን የማውቀው አለ ምናልባት ለወደፊት ማህበሩ ባይገልጠው እኔ ራሴ እንኩዋን የማውቀው እውነት አለ እገልጠዋለሁ ዳሩ ግን ከላይ እስከ ታች ያሉ ብጹዓን አባቶች ምን አድርገዋቸው ነው እንደዚያ ስማቸውን የሚያጠፉት ጌታ መንፈስ ቅዱስን የሰደበ ሓጢአቱ አይሰረይለትም እንዳለው በመንፈስ ቅዱስ የተቀቡ አባቶችን መማለጃ የሚቀበሉ ናቸው ብሎ ከመጽረፍ የበለጠ መንፈስ ቅዱስን መሳደብ የለምና ሊወገዙ ይገባቸዋል መቼም የሲኖዱስን ስልጣን መጋፋት ሊሆንብኝ ይችል ይሆናል እንጂ እንዲህ አይነቱን በመንፈሰ ጽርፈት የተሞላ አባቶቹን የዘለፈ ሰው በእንጦንስ ክብር መጠራት የለበትም ባይ ነኝ
የሀገርና የቤተ ክርስቲያ ጠላት የሆነው ንጉሴ ወልደ ፍልስጣ በሬዲዮኑ የሚያቀርባቸውና አብነት የሚያደርጋቸውን ግለሰቦች ማንንት ስታስተውሉ ሁሉም ችግር ያላባቸው ሆነው ነው የምታገኙዋቸው ለነገሩ የማህበረ እኩያን አጋፋሪ አይደለ

ስለዚህ ደጀ ሰላም የማፍያው ቡድን ልሳን ስለሆነው የሀገርና የቤተ ክርስቲያን ጠላት ስለሆነው የንጉሴ ሬድዮ ማንሳቱ ትክክል ነው እርሱኮ የተሰጠውን ግዳጅ እየፈጸመ ነው የማፍያውን ቡድን ስራ እያጋለጡ ያሉትን አባቶችና የቤተ ክርስቲያን አካላትን ስም እያጠፋ ነው አፋቸውን ለመዝጋት እየተውተርተረ ነው ለማሸማቀቅ እየሞከረ ነው ደጀ ሰላምም ይህን ስለምተወቅ መሰለኝ ወደ ማፍያው ልሳን ትኩረታችንን እንድናደርግ የጋበዘችው ማህበረ ቅዱሳን እየጠፋ ላለው ስሙ ግዴለሽ ሆኖ ከተቀመጠ ያ አባላቱ ድርሻ ነው እንደ አንድ የቤተ ክርስቲያን ተቆርቁዋሪ ግን ማህበሩ ይህን ዋልጌ በህግ እንዲዳኝ ማድረግ አለበት ባይ ነኝ

Dan said...

Keep Your Eyes on the Prize
ዓይናችሁን ከሲኖዶሱ ላይ አታንሱ::
ይህ ሁሉ የምንሰማው ንትርክ ትልቁን አሳሳቢው ወቅታዊ አንገብጋቢ ጉዳይ በቤተ ክርስቲያን መንፈሳዊና ድርጅታዊ አስተዳደር ላይ የደረሰው የአምባ ገነንነት ብልሹና ወጥነትን እንዳናጸዳ የሚፈጠር ማሰናከያ ተግባር ነው::

ቤተ ክርስቲያናችን በትክክለኛ ሥርዓት ብንሆን አንድና ሁለት ሳይሆን በ50 እና 60 የሚቆጠሩ ማሕበራት ሊኖራት ይገባል::
ማህሕበራትም አገልግሎት በሚሰጡበት ሃገር ስብከት ስር ሆነው ይተዳደራሉ ከስርዓትም እንዳይውጡ ጳጳስ ማለትም (overseer, shepherd, elder የቤተ ክርስቲያን ሽማግሌ, presbyter) ይመራቸዋል (spiritual guide) ከተግባሩ መካከልም አንዱ ይሄ ነው:: አሁን ግን ጌታ በሉቃስ ወንጌል ምዕራፍ 19:46 እንዳለው
“ቤቴ የጸሎት ቤት ይሆናል ተብሎ ተጽፎአል፤ እናንተ ግን የወንበዴዎች ዋሻ አደረጋችሁት” እንዳለው ጳጳሱ ፓትርያርኩ እውነተኛ እረኛ ካልሆነ በጎቹ ይበተናሉ::”ዛሬ እንዳለው ሆነናል::

በደለኛ አምባገነናዊ መንግስት በጠመንጃ በአፈሙዝ እያስፈራራ እየገደለ ይገዛል
እንዴትኮ ሥርዓት አልባ የሆነ የቤተ ክርስቲያን አመራርን በሰላማዊ ትግል አናስውግድም:: ከእንግዲህ
“The only thing that we did wrong,
Stayed silent a day too long”
ማለት መቻል አለብን

ዛሬ የኛ ትኩረት በዋናው የቤተ ክርስቲያን አስተዳድር በሲኖዶሱ ላይ ሆኖ እንዴት ትክክለኛና ቀኖናዊ ሲኖዶስ እንዲኖርን መጣእር ነው:: ሌላው በየደረጃው ይስተካከላል::
በማዘናጊያ ወጥመድ አንውደቅ::

Anonymous said...

“አህያውን ፈርቶ ዳውላውን”

የተወደዳችሁ ደጀ ሰላማውያን እንዴት ናችሁ? ሰላም ይብዛላችሁ። ደጀ ሰላምን መቸም በቀን ቢያንስ ሁለት ጊዜ ጎብኘት የማደርጋት ውድ ጦማሪ በመሆኗ በምታነሳቸው ርእሶች የሚቀርቡ አስተያየቶችን አብሬ መጎብኘት ልማዴ ነው። የእያንዳንዱ ሰው አስተያየት ልዩ ልዩ መሆኑ ያለና ልናስቀረውም የማንችለው ጉዳይ ነው። በዚህ ምንም ጥያቄ አይነሳም። ‘አቶ እውነቱ’ የተባለውን ግለሰብ አስተያየት ሁልጊዜም እንደ አስተያየት አልቆጥረውም ያው የተለመደ የእንታደስ አባዜው ሁሉንም ነገር ስለጨፈነበት የሚሰጠው አስተያየት እንታደስ ነውና።


በዚህ ርእስ ስር ከተሰጡት አስተያየቶች የገረመኝ ግን የማኅበረ ቅዱሳን አባላት ነን እያሉ በሰጧቸው አስተያየቶች ላይ ነው። እኔ እንደሚገባኝ ርእሱ ቀጥ ብሎ የማፍያው ቡድን አባል በአሜሪካ ከአቶ ንጉሤ ሬዲዮ ጋር በመተባበር እያደረገ ያለውን ስም የማጥፋት ዘመቻ ነው ያነሳው። ማኅበረ ቅዱሳንን የዘረጠጠው ንጉሤ ሆኖ ሳለ ያንን ለምን ጦመራችሁ ብሎ አካኪ ዘራፍ ማለት በተለይም የማኅበሩ አባል ነኝ ከሚል ሰው አልጠበቅሁም። እሰጥ አገባ የሚያስብልም አልመሰለኝም። ደጀ ሰላም ርእሱን ፈጥራ አቅርባው ቢሆን እስኪ እንበል የማኅበረ ቅዱሳን አባሉ ልክ አይደለሽም ቢል ይሆናል። ንጉሤ በተሳደበው ደጀ ሰላም ላይ መወራጨቱ ‘አህያውን ፈርቶ ዳውላውን’ ይሆናል እና የማኅበረ ቅዱሳኑ አባላትም ሰከን ባለ ሁኔታ አስተያየቶቻችሁን ብትሰነዝሩ መልካም ነው እላለሁ። ሌላው የታዘብሁት ደግሞ አንድ አስተያየት ሰጭ በንጉሤው ሬዲዮ ቀረቡ ስለ ተባሉት መነኩሴ ሲተች “መነኩሴ ተብየው” የሚል ሐረግ ተጠቅሞ ተመለከትሁ። በእኔ አስተያየት የመነኩሴውን ምንኩስና ቤተ ክርስቲያኗ ገፍፋ አባ ሊባሉ አይገባቸውም እስካላለች ድረስ እንደዚህ መዘርጠጡም ከክርስትናችን የሚጠበቅ ነው ብየ አላምንም። በበኩሌ አርመን አስተካክለን አስተያየት ብንሰጥ መልካም ነው እላለሁ።

ቸር ይግጠመን

Haymanot said...

My Brothers and Sisters in Christ; Peace with you all.
I think some EOTC members are don't know the problem of our mother church. What do you think the big problem of our Fathers and meme-nans in our beloved church? The pretender christian MK Nachew. Pay attention. I don't hate them. But I don't like what they are doing. Especially the leaders of MK is the big big big...problem for our church. Don't ignore it. They are the one divided the Holy fathers&Memenan.

" Enastewl"
This EOTC Problem starts, when they start their hidden Mision (Politics and Money) in the name of the Lord. Then gradually they tricks our Papasat,and yewah memenan in the name of Christena. How ever what I am trying to say is MK is No.1 our Holy Church problem. Why dont you see it? Now they are trying to established the 3rd Synod for the sake of them in USA.

Let MK leaders and Members, STOP divided by politics, and tricks the people, Then you will see we will solve our current problem of our church.

"God Bless"

DS, Please dont remove some comments like this one. It is not fair.

"Leb Yistachehu"
God protect our Church.

We stand for the Truth.

Anonymous said...

የተወደድህ/ሽ Haymanot ሰላም ላንተ/ቺ ይሁን

በሰጠኸ/ሽው አስተያየት ላይ አንድ ያስደነገጠኝን አረፍተ ነገር አንበብሁ። እንዲህ ይላል። “Now they are trying to established the 3rd Synod for the sake of them in USA” አስተያየቱን የሰነዘርኸ/ሽው ማኅበረ ቅዱሳን በቤተ ክርስቲያን ላይ አስከትሏል በምትለ/ይው ጉዳይ ላይ ነው። ከላይ የተመለከትሁት አረፍተ ነገርህ/ሽ ምንም ተጨባጭ ሳትይዝ/ዥ እንዳልሆነ እገምታለሁ። እስኪ ጉዳዩን ዘርዘር አድርገህ/ሽ አስረዳ/ጅን። እንዴት ሆኖ ነው ማኅበረ ቅዱሳን ሶስተኛ ሲኖዶስ የሚመሰርተው? የምትለው/ዪው እውነት ነው? ከምን ተነስተህ/ሽ እንዲህ አልህ/ሽ? እባክህ/ሽን አብራራልን/ሪልን።

መልካም ነገርን የምንሰማበትን ጊዜ ያምጣልን

Anonymous said...

የተወደድህ/ሽ Haymanot ሰላም ላንተ/ቺ ይሁን

በሰጠኸ/ሽው አስተያየት ላይ አንድ ያስደነገጠኝን አረፍተ ነገር አንበብሁ። እንዲህ ይላል። “Now they are trying to established the 3rd Synod for the sake of them in USA” አስተያየቱን የሰነዘርኸ/ሽው ማኅበረ ቅዱሳን በቤተ ክርስቲያን ላይ አስከትሏል በምትለ/ይው ጉዳይ ላይ ነው። ከላይ የተመለከትሁት አረፍተ ነገርህ/ሽ ምንም ተጨባጭ ሳትይዝ/ዥ እንዳልሆነ እገምታለሁ። እስኪ ጉዳዩን ዘርዘር አድርገህ/ሽ አስረዳ/ጅን። እንዴት ሆኖ ነው ማኅበረ ቅዱሳን ሶስተኛ ሲኖዶስ የሚመሰርተው? የምትለው/ዪው እውነት ነው? ከምን ተነስተህ/ሽ እንዲህ አልህ/ሽ? እባክህ/ሽን አብራራልን/ሪልን።

መልካም ነገርን የምንሰማበትን ጊዜ ያምጣልን

ferecha said...

መልካም ነው ዕስቲ ስለሃይማኖቱ ዕናተኩር

ዝርዝሩን ዕዚህ ላይ ተመልከቱ
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Anonymous said...

Selam Deje Selamawyan,

I have read that some brothers and sisters in this blog try to write informations as if they are MK members while they are not really members. I thought that these people are pretending on behalf of Mahibere Kidusan (By saying why dejeselam is going this much concerned on the Nigussie radio 'Sidib'). So we have to watch them out. I don't think that their idea will represent MK.

Selam

tad said...

There will not be strong HolySynod without having legitimate regime. Don't fool yourselves.Start from where you left 18yrs ago. Abune Paulos is prescribed to us by weyane. The root cause of our EOC problems is weyane. If by miracle that we have able to get rid off Abune Paulos, weyane will make sure that we get another equivalent Abune Paulos. The circle goes on.The Sunday schools and some groups denied or wanted to deny the real problems for too long.I don't understand how long they want to deny it and solve the EOC problems at the same time. It is inconsistant.
May God The Almighty lead us in this troubling time

yared said...

please stop it

Anonymous said...

Brothers and siters who have written out of the Topic please open your Eyes/ open your ears and aske some one to read the following posted from DS.

"በሰለጠነና ክርስቲያናዊ በሆነ መንገድ አስተየቶቻችሁን እንድትሰጡ ትለመናላችሁ። ከዚህ በሁዋላ ኢ-ክርስቲያናዊና የኑፋቄ አሽክላ የሚዘሩ አስተያየቶችን አንታገስም።
ቸር ወሬ ያሰማን።" ደጀ ሰላም

DS why do not keep your stand?

Those Tesfa, Ewunet pray strong for GOD to gives you good heart "Leb Yistachehu". Why you thing that no one do not thing.

Please continue those who provides good idea for finding solution to EOTC problem because we have left less than a month for synodes meeting..
God protect our/EOTC Church.

Ke Midirekebid

Anonymous said...

እውነቱ (ሙሉጌታ)

የፊደል አጠቃቀምህ በጣም ድሃ ነው። ለስድብ ስለምትቸኩል ይሁን ፤ወይም ደግሞ ፊደሎቹን ለይተህ አታውቃቸው ይሆን እንጃ ብቻ።

Haymanot said...

Deje Selam please dont be evil and anti Christian when you remove some very truth comments. You cant stand the truth?

If you keep doing this evil thing, I am gone exposed you to the world midia, and that will be your "Wedeket". Don't be "ye-Efugnet Lijoch" .
There is a lot of communication way for the true christians.

Anonymous said...

የማኅበረ ቅዱሳን ጠላቶች አንድ ያልተገነዘቡት ነገር አለ፡፡ ያም ምንድነው- ማኅበረ ቅዱሳንን ካሁን በሁዋላ እንደፈለጉ ቢያብጠለጥሉትና ቢያጠቁት፡ ምንም ዓይነት ጉዳት የማይደርስበት መሆኑ ነው፡፡ እንኳን በምላሳቸው ቀርቶ፡ በቦምብ አራት ኪሎ ያለውን ጽሕፈት ቤቱን ቢያጋዩት እንኩዋ፡ ማኅበሩ ዝም ብሎ አገልግሎቱን ይቀጥላል፡፡ ምክንያቱም በተጠላለፈና በተወሳሰበ መንገድ ሳይሆን፡ በቀጥተኛ መንገድ የመገናኛ ገመዱን በትምህርት በኩል በብዙ ወጣቶች ልብ ስለተከለ… ምን ማለቴ ነው ያልኩትማ ባጭሩ፡ ማኅበረ ቅዱሳን፡ ቢሮው ውስጥ ከሚቀመጡ ቋሚ አባላቶቹ ይልቅ፡ የአባልነት ፎርም እንኩዋ በቅጡ ያልሞሉ፡ ግን ዓላማውን ዓላማቸው አድርገው ቤተክርስቲያንን የሚያገለግሉ ብዙ አባላቶች በዓለም ዙርያ አሉት ማለቴ ነው፡፡ እና… እንዲያው በደንብ ይውጣላቸውና፡ አንደኛቸውን መናፍቃኑ አባ ኃይለሚካኤልና አባ ሠረቀን የመሳሰሉት ሁሉ.. የፈለጉትን የቆመጥና የቦምብ ወይም የክስና የመዝገብ መዓት ይዘው ይምጡና ይረባረቡ… ማኅበረ ቅዱሳን እንደሆነ፡ አንዴ አብ ተክሎታልና፡ በአንድም በሌላም መልኩ አገልግሎቱን እየቀጠለ መሄድ አያቆምም፡፡

በነገራችን ላይ፡ እነ አባ ኃይለሚካኤል የማኅበሩ ብር ላይ ለምን አተኮሩ? በቃ የተቃውሞዋቸው መነሾ ብር ነው ማለት ነው? እግዚኦ! እንደነርሱ ማጅራት መትቶ አላመጣው ብሩን! ምናለ ማቅ ብር ቢኖረው?! እስቲ የምን ምቀኝነት ነው?! ሆ!

Anonymous said...

Come clean MK. Get an independent audit. Other wise don't rely on the number of horses you have like Pharaoh.You can only win by truth. The truth will make you free.

Anonymous said...

Money is the root of evils and sins. We are fighting Abune Paulos because of money,ie, he abused our churche's money. Anybody who messes up with public money will face the same fight from EOC members. The same measurement is going to apply to everybody. No Paulos,MK,Samuel, Abraham, Samuel, Fanuel, Estifanos, Timitheos......

Anonymous said...

Selam Brothers and Sisters
Please provide your comment , suggestion and other constructive ideas gently: በሰለጠነና ክርስቲያናዊ በሆነ መንገድ አስተየቶቻችሁን እንድትሰጡ ትለመናላችሁ።

Selam

Anonymous said...

I am beginning to curse myself for being born in this society and being a member of this church.

Is there any redemption?

Or should one just walk away and save oneself from this degenerate society.

No matter how much I love my church I do not wish to lose myself and soul by being part of this corruption.

What good is it for a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul?

I really "Don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water."

Anonymous said...

ደጀ ሰላም የማህበረ ቅዱሳን መሆናን አረጋገጥን ትናንትና ተስፋ የሚባለው ጸሐፊ የማህበረ ቅዱሳንን ትክክለኛ ማንነትና አላማ እንዲሁም የኢትዮጵያን ዋና ችግር በሚገርም ማስተዋል አስነብቦኝ ልቤን ነክቶት ነበር
ታዲያ ደጀ ሰላም ይህን ኮሜንት ጠርጋ አስወግደዋለች በዚህም ተስፋ የሰጠው አስተያየት እውነት መሆኑን ፤ደጀ ሰላም ደግሞ የማህበረ ቅዱሳን መሆናን በትክክል አረጋግጠናል
ተስፋ ጽሑፍህ ከድደጀ ሰላም ላይ ብዙ ጊዜ እየተጠረገ ነው እናም እውነትን የያዝህ መስሎ ተሰምቶኛል እባክህ ሰፋ አድርገህ በሌሎች ዌብሳይቶች ላይ ጻፍልን

ተስፋ እባክህ ሳትሰለች ጻፍልን አንድ ሰው በስምህ በንግሊዘኛ እየጻፈ ነውና አስቁመው
በርታ

Tesfa said...

Dear anonymous, the one who blogged on september 2, 2009.

You grouped me with Ewunetu who is known for his tehadesoawi comments. And you said pray to God to give you good heart. I do not understand why you catagorized me with Ewunetu. I said we need to focus on what we can do for our church than focusing on who talks what. I did not wrote any comment which makes me grouped with Eunetu. Actually I criticized those who are doing unethical thing on our church like Nigusse and the so called monk who talk lots of lies on the radio and those who attacked our fathers on the darkness while our fathers were speaking on the day light. I do not think this will group me with a tehadso aramaj or classified me as bad hearted. Otherwise I politely ask you to tel me my wrong doing which makes you comment me like that.

Thanks

tad said...

Weyane, The Abba Paulos, Tehadisso, MK, The Abba Samuels,please come to you senses and let EOC be free.

Anonymous said...

Dear all bloggers,

I have read all posted blogges and I really feel sad when I see poeple like "tad" write just lies and insults on the EOTC and church fathers.

tad, form your writing that you are very shortsighted person and lacks ethics of writing. You want to connect the issue of EOTC to the current government. If the problem would be solved by insulting and spreading lies, you and people like you would solve the problem. But this is a spritual issue and it should be sovled by prayer and by discussing on the problem respectifully and spiritually. If you are really christian as you said yourself, you do not open your mouth like this on church fathers even if they make a mistake by your sight.

We, Ethiopian, have respect for our elders and church fathers. I am not saying that we just simply be complacent for all wrong things done by the church fathers, but we need to have respect for them and point out firmly the wrong doings without disrespecting them. This is most of us lacks. Please raise your concerns respectifully. We might not disagree, but we can respect each other even not disagreeing.

Let God bless our church.

Chur Egitemen.

tad said...

Dear ann;
You are disappointed by my comments not may be I am harsh on Abune Paulos, but on some of your body bishops. In my comments I raised the names of some bishops. Tell me whom you are sympathizing with and I can know your concerns.

Anonymous said...

Ann whom responding to Tad;
Which fathers you are talking about. The Abba Paulos or The Abba Samuels.Which one/ Both sides have to repent and come to their senses.

Haymanot said...

Deje Selam: Now we know very well who you are. Because, when some truth comment posted; you remove it very fast before the people read, understand,and want to know the true problem for our church. Are you rely want our church destroyed by you and by "Hodamoch" "Leboch", and "Acheberbariwoch? Never./././
Dear, blogger, they remove the true comments all the time, Why? They are afraid the truth come out and exposed them. MK Where ever you do or go you can't hide from God. Like Yihuda you will hang your self by saytan help. That is the final result for you and your members. If you are rely want the problem solve, leave the blogger free. Don't saboteur. We will find you any way.

Leb Yestachehu
Seytan bechawen mekatel ayfelegemena, yezuachehu likatel neww"

Please take confession and come clean before that happen. Not to let.
Egziabher Mehari neww.

petrosawi said...

Ethiopia-land of God,source of braves,heros,leader of civilization, land of real chriastains, ......,but now there are a ot of 'hodamoch'. No good idea from thier mouth except offending others,no constuctive idea but full of destruction.
you bloggers you all keep silent when you are asked to generate ideas that helps our church but widely open for insulting others.Oh you are living in blind. Who you all openning your mouth for offense if you have the ability please give constructive ideas.

other wise :
you are
kesashu,
zendow,
Yechelemawu gezsi,
kehadi,
hodam,
banda,
wusha,
yemayitekim,
adro karia
etc....
mehonachin selehone, niseha engiba.
Mastewalun yistem.Amen.

Tazabiw said...

Dear Deje Selam Editor:

Even though you blog is generally good and encourageable, the way you let your readers comment on anything that has no bearing with your original article is becoming a turn off. A good blog page can only survive if it takes care of the needs of the regular and also the occasional readers. Most people just flip thru, not many stick around unless you give them something interesting and moderate the comments so that they don't feel bored. Believe me I have much experience with that. So why don't you do something about it.
My advice:-
1st - De-activate the anonymous comment choice so that everyone can reply to the right person
2nd - take care of the off subject comments
3rd - take of your readers by posting unbiased articles, articles based on facts
4th - remind (force) people to stick to the subject on hand when commenting

What do you think ?
Because, it seems like any article you post ends up to be about MK by the 'off-subject' comment writers. And their argument is a turn off . Just boring.
Hope you can do something about it.

To DS readers:
Here is a link to a sermon I listened to, a very good one.
http://www.eotcbooks.com/index.html
Please take your time and listen to the whole sermon. It is life changing, has the answers to the sad situation we are all in.

And the other thing - Fnote Selam Radio DC has aired this program in response to "Ato Nigussie and 'Aba H/Michaels' " accusations. http://www.tewahedomedia.org/Default.aspx?tabid=190
Listen to 'Nehase 23/2001' prog

God bless,

"Wey sew kentu!" ale yagere sew.
Tazabiw

Tazabiw said...

Sorry DS readers:

The sermon at http://www.eotcbooks.com/index.html
is at the bottom left of the page "Letifat yetazezech ketema..." by the special Sermon box.

God bless,

"Wey sew kentu!" ale yagere sew.
Tazabiw

Tesfa said...

Tazabiw

I think you proposed a good idea. I fully support your proposal because because it makes sense to do that. I hope DS will consider the proposal and take action. Thank you Tazabiw.

daniel said...

DELEWONI KEMU NEBERU

daniel said...

አይ አምላክ ይሄም ቀን ደረሰ

አቤት እግዚአብሔር ምን ይሳነዋል
የተከለውን የሚነቅል
ከፍ ከፍ ያለውነ የሚያዋርድ
የተዋረዱትን የሚያከብር የሚያጽናና የእውነተኞች ጠለላ ስምህ ዘለአለም የተመሰገነ ይሁን

የማህበረ ቅዱሳንን ጉድ ስሰማ አንድ የተዋህዶ ታላቅ የወንጌል ገበሬ ትዝ አሉኝ እና አለቀስኩ
አባ ወ/ትንሳኤ ዳግማዊው ጳውሎስ ብርሃነ ኢትዮጵያ ሰባኪ ወንጌል ሳይሞቱ ይሄንን ጉድ አሳዮት አባታችን ለዘለአለም እንኮራቦታለን ከእርሶ ትዕግስትን ፍቅርን ሃይማኖትን አነድነትን ሰላምን ደስታን ቸርነትን ወዘተ......... ተምረናል አምላክ አሁንም እድሜዎን ከጤና ጋር አብዝቶ ይስጥልን

ወልደ ትንሳኤ ወልደ ትንሳኤዎችን ተክቶልናል እግዚአብሔር ይመስገን ሃይማኖቴን እንድወዳት እና እንድኮራባት ስላደረጉኝ የገሃነም ደጆች ፈጽሞ አያናውጡኝም እምነቴን ስለተረዳሁኝ

የሚገርመው ነገር ለብዙ ዘመናት በማቅ የሃሰት ቆርጦ መቀጠል ድራማ እጠላቸው ነበር ሆኖም አምላክ ስለፈቀደ ነገር ተለወጠ
እምቴን እንዳወራበት ብቻ ሳይሆን እንድኖረው ስላደረጉኝ አምላክ ከኔ እድሜ ላይ ግማሹን ለሳቸው ይስጥልኝ ምክንያቱም ለእንደ እኔ አይነት ሰዎች እና ለተዋህዶ ቤተ ክርስቲያን ታላቅ ብርሃን ናቸው እና።

በጣም ይቅርታ ብዙ አንብቤ አንብቤ ስለገረመኝ ነው ይሄንን የጻፍኩት

የድንግል ልጅ ይባርከን

Wongel said...

እውነት እውነት እልሃለሁ፥ የምናውቀውን እንናገራለን ያየነውንም እንመሰክራለን፥ ምስክራችንንም አትቀበሉትም።

ስለ ምድራዊ ነገር በነገርኋችሁ ጊዜ ካላመናችሁ፥ ስለ ሰማያዊ ነገር ብነግራችሁ እንዴት ታምናላችሁ?

ከሰማይም ከወረደ በቀር ወደ ሰማይ የወጣ ማንም የለም፥ እርሱም በሰማይ የሚኖረው የሰው ልጅ ነው።
John 3:11

EthioMonitor said...

Enqutatash - Happy 2002 to All Everywhere!

I thoroughly believe that the problems and disagreements we have in our Church today concerning about virtually everything (authority, community, responsibility, structure, organization, leadership, decision-making, finance, education, mission, monastic life, liturgical worship etc.) are not simply because we are extremely sinful and incompetent people. These things are occurring now frequently because we are compelled to deal in a complex, aggressively secularized world with a two-thousand year history that we don’t know how to understand and handle in relation to our present times and conditions.
That the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church has over the past couple of months been rattled by internal accusations and counteraccusations points to a deep spiritual malady. From an historical perspective the sectarian rigorists were not completely off the mark. They reasoned that when the Church’s leaders are corrupt, the Church itself risks becoming corrupt. The rigorists sought to remain faithful to the dominical teaching that one cannot serve two masters.
The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church had many challenges in the past, but, probably it is only now that it has begun to unravel a large and tight knot in which bishops, priests and laity are being seen as party to duplicity, deception and outright hypocrisy. Whether we are aware or not, all of this has an adverse impact on our worship.
Behind the uniqueness of our Church lurks the temptation of evil worldly power. Moreover, once it is discovered that the historic church can be used to generate money, its attraction can be used to seduce the unwary. When church service is exploited in this way, then the Gospel is used to promote another kingdom ultimately opposed to Christ. Truth is exploited to serve lies.
To resolve the current crisis in the EOTC it will first require a willingness on the part of all to acknowledge that it is derived from a serious spiritual illness that has affected every aspect of our ecclesiastic life including the unique liturgy. Given the gravity of the disease, recovery will be long and painful. Until a diagnosis is made we must be willing to recognize that neither conciliar debate nor hierarchical fiat will suffice for treatment since recovery will have to entail a change of heart and not merely a change in behavior or appearance.
How do we arrive at a diagnosis? It seems that the most direct way rests, first, in outlining to answer the questions, for instance, whether all the allegations [of financially motivated administrative malfeasance] are true or false? Unless this question is answered continued probing will only aggravate our illness while hiding its cause. Unless this question is answered, hope for recovery will remain a dream for the naive.

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EthioMonitor said...

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I believe that we can begin by doing the following 5 things.

1.We can realize and internalize the tremendous complexity of our present situation, and work together patiently and charitably to disentangle its various elements, to understand them accurately, and to deal with them appropriately in our church life today, according to our abilities to do so, whether or not our hierarchs, here in America or abroad, choose to lead us and participate with us in these obligatory efforts.

2.If we focus and concentrate on the actual problem, we can see that some of our brothers and sisters have already started producing outstanding ideas, here at DS, so, we should/can only continue making our views known, and offer our suggestions about proper action, forcefully and firmly, without demonizing or ridiculing those friends of our Church who disagree with us, while cooperating courageously with those who do. We can always remember that those who disagree with us are as strongly committed to their understanding of things as we are.

3.We should/can encourage and invite those who we believe are willing to participate in building up the Church and fostering its God-given divine mission, even if these people are not knowledgeable, articulate, sophisticated and are not always supported by the ecclesiastical hierarchy.

4.We should/can obey our leaders who disagree with us, and refuse to meet with us and speak with us, to the extent that they do not lead us into heresy or immorality, whatever they are doing, or not doing, in their personal lives and pastoral actions. We need to understand how immense and difficult their responsibility is. Let's think for a minute and observe what is going on across the entire world of the mass media. Let's be honest, we the followers of this great Church are even unable to behave in a humane and Christian manner whenever we try to interact with fellow brothers and sisters. If we are not capable of expressing our thoughts in a respectful and dignified manner, we will be practically incapable of influencing anyone with our thoughts. If we permanently go on demonstrating our weakness in the trait of resolutely controlling our own behavior, what would then to be expected from our leaders who do hold a very complex position of a very complex religious responsibility?

5.We should/can work on ourselves to be faithful Tewahedo Christians in WORD and DEED through liturgical worship, sacramental communion, reading Holy Scripture, and following the Saints in prayer, fasting, silence, repentance, confession of sins and acts of mercy to others, whoever they are, that are in need of spiritual and material assistance, guidance and support.

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EthioMonitor said...

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Each one of us is important, very important. It's up to us to make a difference in our spiritual life. If we do the above five things, we will be using our time, energy and money to inspire, encourage and educate new church leaders, who, humanly speaking, are the Church’s only hope for survival and growth. We cannot go on struggling to put new wine into old wine skins. We cannot keep trying to force or cajole or shame our leaders and our people into doing things that they don’t want to do. We can only love them and leave them to do what they think best while we give ourselves fully to finding and fostering a new generation of spiritual leaders who believe in the Gospel and struggle to interpret the complex history of the Ethiopian Church in the eternal light of Christ, while applying their evangelical, theological and historical visions to the conditions of the real life of the real world in which they are really living.

We have everything in our Tewahedo Church that we need for divine life in this world, whoever our bishops, priests and people are, and whatever their behavior may be. We have the Almighty God the Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ, His Only Son, and the Holy Spirit. We have the Scriptures, the Sacraments, the Liturgical Services, and the lives, teachings and prayers of the Saints. And we have each other. We don’t need anything else. We don’t even need formal church unity, especially if it will be a unity in our present chaos and confusion that may actually make matters worse. Indeed, we are perhaps even better off, at least for the time being, without such unity.
Let's use the coming 5 “Pagume” days to reflect on the above 5 points.

May the Lord have mercy on us all!

Mulugeta Negash

Wongel said...

Thank you Mulugeta,
We pass days condemning fathers while still we are unable to do better than them. It remind me what Jesus said "Tsidikachihu KEferisawian ena kesedukawian Kalbelete Wede Egiziabhere Mengist Atigebum".

Let God help us to bear fruit!

Anonymous said...

እግዚአብሔር ይመስገን!!

ማቅ - ጉዳችሁን ሰማሁ እንዲህ አትመስሉነም ነበር። የተሰወረ የማይገለጥ የለም፣ ክብር ለመድኃኔአለም ይሁን።

የተረት ጊዜ አለፈ እና ቅድስት እና የአባቶቻችን እምነት ኢ/ኦ/ተ ወደ ቀደመ ክብሯ ተመለሰች። ያልተበረዘ ወንጌል ይሰበካል። ወንጌል፣ ሙሉጌታ፤ ተስፋ፤ እውነት በርቱ እንበርታ።

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