August 6, 2009

"ቅኔ የአብነት ትምህርቱ ፍልስፍና መሠረት": ማኅበረ ቅዱሳን ያዘጋጀው የቅኔ ዐውደ ጥናት

• ስለቅኔ ታሪካዊ አመጣጥና ትርጓሜ የመምህራኑና የተማሪዎቹን ሕይወትን የሚዳስስ ዘጋቢ ፊልምም ተመረቀ
"ቅኔ የአብነት ትምህርቱ ፍልስፍና መሠረት"
(በሔኖክ ያሬድ)
(ሪፖርተር ጋዜጣ: 05 AUGUST 2009):-የቅኔና የግእዝ ትምህርት ከዘመኑ ጋር ማደግና መስፋፋት ሲገባው እድገቱ እየተገታ በመምጣቱ የከፍተኛ ትምህርትና የቤተ ክህነት የትምህርት ተቋማት ከፍተኛ ትኩረት እንዲያደርጉ ጥሪ ቀረበ፡፡
ባለፈው ቅዳሜ ሐምሌ 25 ቀን 2001 ዓ.ም. በማኅበረ ቅዱሳን አዘጋጅነት በተካሄደው ዐውደ ጥናት ላይ እንደተመለከተው፣ በተለይ ከ20ኛው ክፍለ ዘመን በኋላ በተለያዩ ችግሮች ምክንያት የአገሪቱ ጥንታዊ ትምህርት ከዘመኑ ጋር ማደግና መስፋፋት ሲገባው እድገቱ እየተገታ መጥቷል፡፡

በተለይ የፍልስፍና፣ የሒሳብና የሥነ ከዋክብት ትምህርቶች እንደሌሎቹ አገሮች ለትውልድ ሳይተላለፉ ጉባኤዎቹ የታጠፉበት ዘመን ላይ ተደርሷል፡፡


"ቅኔ የአብነት ትምህርቱ ፍልስፍና መሠረት" በሚል መሪ ቃል በተካሄደው ዐውደ ጥናት የማኅበሩ ሰብሳቢ ቀሲስ ዶ/ር ሙሉጌታ ሥዩም እንደተናገሩት፣ የአብነት (ቆሎ) ትምህርት ቤቶች ከእምነት ተቋምነታቸው ባሻገር የሀገሪቱ የትምህርት፣ የፍልስፍና፣ የሥነ ጥበብ፣ የሥነ ሕንፃና የሥነ ጽሑፍ ተቋማት ሆነው እያገለገሉ ይገኛሉ፡፡

የቅኔ ትምህርት ሃይማኖትን፣ የሀገር ታሪክን፣ የቀድሞ አባቶችና የአሁን ዘመን ሊቃውንት ፍልስፍናና ጥበብ፣ ማኅበራዊ ሒስ የተላለፈበት የዕውቀት ዘርፍ ቢሆንም ተገቢ ትኩረት ባለማግኘቱ እያሽቆለቆለ ይገኛል፡፡

በቀሲስ ዶ/ር ሙሉጌታ አገላለጽ፣ የቅኔ ትምህርት የውጭ ሀገር ምሁራን ለጥናትና ምርምር ሲረባረቡበት በኢትዮጵያ በኩል የተሰጠው ትኩረት ግን አናሳ በመሆኑ የሁሉንም ርብርብ ይጠይቃል፡፡

ከአዲስ አበባ ዩኒቨርሲቲ "ቅኔ የግእዝ ቋንቋና ሥነ ጽሑፍ" በሚል ርእስ ጥናት ያቀረቡት ዶክተር ሥርግው ገላው፣ በቅኔ፣ ታሪክ እንደሚጠናበት፣ እንደሚዘከርበትና እንደሚጠበቅበት፣ ከፍተኛ ጥበብ ያለውና ልዩ የአገላለጽ ስልት በየዘመናቱ እያሳየ መሆኑን፣ በአሁን ዘመን ግን የኅብረተሰቡ ድጋፍ በመቋረጡ የቅኔ ትምህርት ቤቶች እያሽቆለቆሉ መምጣታቸው፣ በአዲስ አበባ ዩኒቨርሲቲም ቀደም ሲል የነበረውን ደረጃ አጥቶ እየተዘጋ መሆኑን አመልክተዋል፡፡

ቀደም ባሉት ዓመታት የአዲስ አበባ ዩኒቨርሲቲ ግእዝ ቋንቋንና ቅኔውን አስተባብሮ በ24 የግንኙነት ጊዜ (ክሬዲት ሀወርስ) ትምህርት ይሰጥበት የነበረበት ሁኔታ አሁን በሁለት የግንኙነት ጊዜ መገደቡና በሥነ ትምህርት ኮሌጅም ግእዝ ከሥርዓተ ትምህርቱ እንዲወጣ መደረጉን ዶ/ር ሥርግው ጠቁመዋል፡፡ ሌሎች ሀገሮች ዘመናዊ ትምህርትን በራሳቸው ነባር ትምህርት ላይ ተመሥርተው መገንባታቸው ለስርፀትም ሆነ ለስኬት እንዳበቃቸው ያመለከቱት ዶ/ር ሥርግው፣ በኢትዮጵያ ግን የረዥም ጊዜ የአገሪቱን የትምህርትና የጥናት ሂደት ወደ ኋላ መጣሉ አግባብ እንዳልሆነ አመልክተዋል፡፡

በአዲስ አበባ ዩኒቨርሲቲ የሥነ ትምህርት ኮሌጅ ቀደም ሲል የተቀረጸው ለአማርኛና ትግርኛ ተማሪዎች ይሰጥ የነበረው የግእዝ ትምህርት፣ ክፍሉ ለምን እንዳስወገደው ግልጽ አይደለም ያሉት መምህሩ፣ የውጭ ዩኒቨርሲቲዎች ለግእዝ የሰጡትን ትልቅ አክብሮት ያህል ሊነፈገው እንደማይገባ አሳስበዋል፡፡

"በግእዝ ሥነ ጽሑፍ ላይ በአብዛኛው የሠሩትና ታሪካችንን የሚያስተምሩን የውጮቹ ናቸው፡፡ ከእኛው ግእዝ ወስደው ግእዙንና ታሪካችንን አጥንተው ነው የሚያስተምሩን፡፡ እኛ ግን በተገላቢጦሹ የምንማርበት አንዳችም ምክንያት ያልታየን ግእዝን ለመረዳት ስላልቻልን ነው" ብለዋል፡፡

ቅኔና ሥነ ቃል

ቅኔ በግጥም የሚሰጥ ራሱን የቻለ የትምህርት ዓይነት ነው፡፡ የራሱ ሕግጋትም አሉት፡፡ ሰዎች በሕይወታቸው የሚያጋጥሟቸውን ክስተቶች፣ ሐዘን ይሁን ደስታ ሁሉንም የሚያሳዩበት የጥበብ ዘርፍ ነው፡፡

ከሃይማኖታዊ ይዘት ባሻገር የአገሪቱ ፖለቲካዊና ማኅበራዊ ጉዳዮችም በቅኔ ይዳሰሳሉ፡፡ ዶ/ር ሥርግው ባቀረቡት ጥናት ላይ በምሳሌነት እንደጠቆሙት፣ በመካከለኛው ዘመን ሰምና ወርቅ የሌለው ደረቅ ቅኔ ታሪክ ተመዝግቦበታል፡፡

በ16ኛው ምእት ዓመት ግራኝ አህመድ የተነሳበት ጊዜ ነበር፡፡ ማዕከላዊ መንግሥቱን ይመሩ የነበሩት አፄ ልብነድንግል ግራኝ አህመድ በሚያሳድዳቸው ጊዜ፣ ለሠራዊታቸውና ለሕዝባቸው መልዕክት ያስተላለፉት በቅኔ ነበር፡፡

ዓይነቱ "ደረቅ ቅኔ" የተሰኘውም እንደ ዛሬ ዘመን ግጥሞች ሰምና ወርቅ የሌለው በመሆኑ ነው፡፡ "ስለ እናንተ የታመመውና የሞተውን ስሙን አትካዱ፡፡ ኢአማኒ ቢማርካችሁ፣ ሰይፍም ቢያሰቃያችሁ፣ የግፉ ዋጋ ወደ ፊት ይጠብቃችኋልና ስሙን አትካዱ" የሚል ነበር፡፡

ቅኔዎች ለይዘታቸው ማጠናከሪያ ከሚጠቀሱት ከመጽሐፍ ቅዱስና ከሌሎች ታሪካዊ ድርሳኖች ሌላም ሥነ ቃልን የሚጠቀሙም ሞልተዋል፡፡

ሊቃውንቱ፣ ኅብረተሰቡ የቅኔን መንገድ በቅርበት እንዲያውቅ ለማድረግ፣ ከቅዱሳት መጻሕፍቱ ሌላ በዕለት ተዕለት ሕይወት ውስጥ የሚዘወተሩ ሥነ ቃሎችን (ተረትና ምሳሌዎችን) በቅኔዎቻቸው ያስገቡ ነበር፡፡

"ቅዱሳት መጻሕፍቱን የሚያውቁት ሁሉም አይደሉም፡፡ ሥነ ቃልን ሁሉም ያውቀዋል፤ ሰው ግእዙን ከቻለና አካሄዱን ከተረዳ ከሥነ ቃሉ በመነሳት ብዙ ሰዎችን ማሰልጠን ይቻላል፡፡" የሚሉት ዶ/ር ሥርግው ለማሳያነት የሚከተለውን ጠቅሰዋል፡፡

ዐፄ ምኒልክ ወራሪውን የኢጣሊያ ሠራዊት ለማስወገድ ወደ ዓድዋ ሲዘምቱ ወሎ ውስጥ እረፍት አድርገው ነበር፡፡ በእንግድነት ካደሩበት ቤት ሲወጡ ለባለቤቱ ሴት አገልጋይ (አመት) ሰጥተው ነበር የሄዱት፡፡ ድል አድርገው ሲመለሱ ያገኟቸው ባለቤቱ ሌላ ሴት አገልጋይ ጨምሩልኝ ለማለት ቅኔውን ተቀኙ፡፡

" ምኒልክ ሠዊት ዘትፈሪ ምእተ
ድግመኒ ዐመተ ዐመተ፡፡"
(መቶ መቶ የምታፈራው ምኒልክ እሸት
ዓመት ዓመት ድገመኝ)

የእሸት ወቅት ደርሶ እሸቱ ከተበላ በኋላ "ዓመት ዓመት ድገመኝ" የሚሰኝ አባባል አለ፡፡ ይህን ብሂል ባለቅኔው ይዞ በአፄ ምኒልክ ከደረሰለት በረከት ጋር አያይዞ አቀረበው፡፡ (ዐመት በዓይኑ ዐ ሲነበብ ዘመንን፣ በአሌፉ "አ" ሲነበብ ደግሞ ሴት አገልጋይ ማለት ነው"፡፡

በዐውደ ጥናቱ፣ ስለ ቅኔ አገልግሎትና ያለበትን ደረጃ በተመለከተ ማብራሪያ በሰጡት የአዲስ አበባ ዩኒቨርሲቲ የሥነ ልሳን መምህር ደሴ ቀለብ አገላለጽ፣ በርካታ ሊቃውንት ያፈራው፣ ቀደም ሲል ከተማሪው ብዛት የተነሳ በትልቅ ገበያ የሚመሰለው የዋሸራ ቅድስት ማርያም የቅኔ ማስመስከሪያ ጉባኤ ቤት፣ ዛሬ በጣት የሚቆጠሩ ተማሪዎች ብቻ ቀርተውታል፡፡ በአሁን ሰዓት አሉ የሚባሉ ጥቂት የቅኔ ትምህርት ቤቶች ይህ እጣ ፈንታ ሳይደርስባቸው ሕዝቡና የሚመለከታቸው ተቋማት ምንነቱንና ጠቀሜታውን ተገንዝቦ እንዲንከባከባቸውና እንዲጠብቃቸው ማድረግ ያስፈልጋል፡፡

በዐውደ ጥናቱ ላይም ስለቅኔ ታሪካዊ አመጣጥና ትርጓሜ የመምህራኑና የተማሪዎቹን ሕይወትን የሚዳስስ ዘጋቢ ፊልምም ተመርቋል፡፡

ፊልሙ የቅኔ ትምህርት ለሃይማኖት መጎልበት፣ ከሥነ ጽሑፍና ከትርጓሜ መስፋፋት አኳያ ያለውን ድርሻ የሚዘግብና ስመጥር የቅኔ ሊቃውንትና ትምህርት ቤቶችን የሚያስተዋውቅ ነው፡፡

28 comments:

Anonymous said...

You don't find a single MK members who studied kine,zema,tirguame....in the last 17yrs of their service. Some of their priests and deacons don't even know how "Mekedes"(the easiest thing to learn). But they are very smart in talking the talk.

hiwot said...

When you are talking about any negative or postive staffs about MK , they are doing their jobs. They do not have to tell you who studied geez or kine do your reaserech.
If there is no temptation in their work ,they will not get srong. So your negative attitude for Mk are too important for thier succese it gives them strength. Go Mk God is with you.

Anonymous said...

Dear First Anoy,

Why you always use your mind for only negtive things, Do you know Dn yargal ( AAu lecturer, he will finish his phd soon), Dn Brihanu, just example this pople learn bluy kidan and Hadis Kidan tirgame, Zema etc parrale to their day today activities. I mentioned this pople since I know them in saint Mary church wearing their gabi during night study. I mentioned this pople as you most of you know them, but there are many many who are learning Kine, zema, Tirgame,etc, in jima, Gonder, mekele, Addisabeba, Bahrdar etc. For your surprise, we have got some sisters who are studying kine, dawit, wedase mariam etc...
They will come great teachers for ther childern.
so pls let us open our eye to see bad and good together.

Have you heard about ' Geez Betseb'? who established that? who is struggle for survival of Geez? by one way or other way MK members.

Anonymous said...

"Dn Brihanu, just example this pople learn bluy kidan and Hadis Kidan tirgame, Zema etc parrale to their day today activities." I wounder some one who studied Hadis Kidan and being mahebere kidusa. I don't think so.

tekle stephanos said...

dear the first anony.
you just down graded mk.for not studi kine,zema,triguame...,but how can you be shure on that?and what do you know about it? do you know any one of them or just pretend .....? but i can give you a my witnes that, not all of them but the majority of its members have knowlage to be called the hand of god. your negetive delusional thout do not go no where.dear brother if you have any idae that good for church bring it let's do it together.if not the other servant might do it.talking is not doing it.
mercy upon us.

Anonymous said...

Read the news,,,it answers your accusations non-Christians!

Anonymous said...

bezihgnawum temelskugn. dn. berhanu hadis temirual? ere tewu enji gobez. ayigebam ekko. elqina qelelch be aba paulos zemenina endih tillalchu. enkuan liq yemihon lelqina yemabeqawn enkwan yemyaq tefa. yeliqawntun sim meteqaqesna qedem qedem malet kehon awo yalkew sew megabe hadis new. ayenew ekko wogun siterq. ahwn ahwn beq yale ye mk delala bew. lenegeru gabiwun lebso qdst maria ayew nebr new yalkw. lela gabi lebso b egibw singkelaws yalayhw yemesl.

tesfa said...

ቅኔ ቤት እያለሁ ከቅኔው በስተርጀባ የጥንቆላ ትምህርት የማይማር ከመቶ አንድ ብቻ ነበር ቅኔ ለመንገር ተብሎ ታሪክ ከምጽሐፍ ቅዱስ ከገድል ከድርሳን ይተረክልን ነበር ይህን ታሪክ መነሻ አድርገን ነበር ቅኔ የምንቀኘው ሆኖም ታሪኩን እንስማው እንጂ የታሪኩ ዋና መልክት አይገባንም ነበር ለቅኔ ስንል ብቻ ነበር ታሪኩን የማናጠናው ለካ ዓይናችን ተይዞ ነው እንጂ በኃላመጽሐፍ ቅዱስን ሳጠና ከመጽሐፍ ቅዱስ ታሪኮች በስተቀር ሌሎች ውሸት ሆነው አገኘኃቸው ለምሳሌ ክርስቶስ ሠምራ ዲያብሎስን ከጌታ ለማስታረቅ ዲፕሎማት ሆና ወደሲኦል ወርዳ እንደነበር ይተማርሁት ቅኔ ቤት ነው ግን ምን ያደርጋል ውሸት ሆኖ አገኘሁትና አባቶቼን ሊቃውንት የሚባሉትን ሁሉ እውነተኛነታቸውን ማመን አቃተኝ እናም እባካችሁ ከቅኔው ጎን ለጎን የመጽሐፍ ቅዱስ ትምህርትም እንዲሰጥ አድርጉ
ማህበረ ቅዱሳን "የገሐነም ደጆች "በሚል ርእስ ሁለቱን አንጋፋ ትምህርት ቤቶች በተሳደበበት ወቅት እንድ ሰው የተቀኘውን ቅኔ ላስታውሳችሁ ሁሉኑም ከምቅረብ ምስጢሩ ያለበትን ብቻ አቀርባለሁ
"አሥግሩ ለነ ቆናጽለ ንኡሳነ ወንጌል ኢትዮጵያ፤
እለ ያማስኑ በኁባሬ አፀደ ወይንነ አቅሌሥያ።
ትርጉሙ "የወይን ቦታችን ቤተ ክርስቲያንን በአድማ የሚያፈርሱ ፤ወንጌል የጎደላቸው የኢትዮጵያ ትናንሽ ቀበሮዎችን ያዙልን ፤ማለት ነው ፤ጥንቆላው ከቅኔ ቤት ይወገድ በሥነ ከዋክብት ጥናት ስም ጥንቆላውንም ለማካሄድ የሚደረገው ድካም የማይረባ ነገር ነው
ቸር ወሬ ያሰማን

Anonymous said...

Like the first Anan, he has been harassing people or mk. Believe me he is menafek
He is not EOTC. Even he does not read the massage because he was not happy when we are talking about our church. He is trying to twist our dissection. Can you tall as one thing or example what you done FOR OUR EOTC NOT YOU MENAFEK holl. simply YOU ARE GULLS.I will payee for you.
God bless you

Anonymous said...

For the last Anonymous,
Did you just read what was posted prior to your comment? Dn Brihanu’s was mentioned name as one example of who studied (studying) Bluy and Hadis Kidan and yet you ask who studied Hadis Kidan by itself. Which one is harder to study, Both Bluy and Hadis Kidans with their interpretations or just Hadis Kidan? I don’t think you are all together in you head!! Instead of using your mind for negative thinking and unnecessary comments, use it for positive thinking. And again, I don’t know if you can, because your deeds show who you really are. Look, it is not time to talk negative and do nothing. It is best and admirable to say nothing and do something good to people, Mother Church, and yourself. That way God may have mercy on your soul. Don’t take my comment personal but do it because it is what Christians do. This comment goes to all people who post out of context comments. For God’s sake, let us act like Christians.

Pray for me, the sinner.

Anonymous said...

Hi Tesfa,

I think you are 'Entades' or 'Dagon' in Cyberethiopia forume. We know you guys very well...,we know how you kept queit and could not answer for her when Berhanawit came.

you know she read this blog too, and will come to you if you don't watch what you said...We know how she answered you about kidist kerstos semera... she gave you enough lesson.

Tesfa or entades or dagon... Berhanawit kememtatuwa befit kezih tefa...

Cher yakoyen

Anonymous said...

Some of the above "Anonymous" and "hypocrite" comment writers accuse MK members of not studying "Qine , Zema, etc", but have you done that yourself ? I bet you didn't. At least they are trying to preserve this unique art for the future generation. What have you done that can qualify you as a critic?
At least try to use your brain, "anget bado endayqer yetesetew" endilu. I mean you are too a "chicken" even to leave a name behind. What a waste. Sad generation.

To the above "anonymous" who wrote " Tesfa or entades or dagon... Berhanawit kememtatuwa befit kezih tefa..." - You are one funny guy, please write again (and next time - leave a name). If we can't do anything positive collectively, at least let us have a laugh or two.

"Wey sew kentu!" ale yagere sew.
Tazabiw

Yihuna said...

Dear hair splitters! Before pointing at some one watch your self. What have you done to your church? Christ died for all of us. Mk are also Christians like you. They didn't claim them selves as 'Liq' but only contributing their best for the mother church. They don't have time to read your false accusations.

If you are true Christians please pray for them than pointing at them. Stop talking do some thing for your church.From what I know they are busy at teaching universities students and helping needy Monasteries. What ever you have done in these regard???

Mastewalun yisTih.

Yihuna.

Anonymous said...

ይድረስ ለአቶ ተስፋ (ለአሰልቺው አስተያየት ሰጭ)

አቶ ስላልሁህ ቅር እንደማትሰኝ ተስፋ አደርጋለሁ። ደጀ ሰላምን መጎብኘት ከጀመርሁበት ጊዜ አንስቶ በየተነሱት ርእሶች አስተያየት ደግመህ ደግመህ ስተሰጥ አስተውላለሁ። አስተያየት መስጠቱ ባልከፋ።ግን ህመምተኛ ትመስለኛለህ።በአንተ ቤት አስተያየትህን የሚያነብብ ሁሉ የሚሰበክልህ ይመስልሃል? የተለያየ አስተያየት የሰጠሁ ይመስልሃል እንጅ ‘የሞኝ ልቅሶ መልሶ መልሶ’ የምትሰጠው ሐሳብ እኮ አንድና አንድ ነው ‘ያው እንታደስ’ አይደል የምትለው? አባ ጳውሎስ ቤተ ክርስቲያኗን በደሉ ስትባል ‘እንታደስ’ ስለ ቅኔ ትምህርት ሲነሳ ‘እንታደስ’ ጳጳሳት ተደበደቡ ስትባል ‘እንታደስ’ በእውነት እብድ ነህ። ዘጠኝ ጊዜ ዝርጠጣ ብትጽፍ ትርጉም የለውም ከአንተ ጋር ማስረጃ ማጣቀሻ መጻፉም መቅለል ነው የሚሆነው።ልምከርህ አስተያየትህ ልክ ያለው ይሁን። በመስደብ ትርፍ እንደማታገኝ እወቅ። ዘጠኝ ጊዜ አስተያየትህን በ ‘እንታደስ’ ስለደዘደዝኸው ተሰለች እንደሆን እንጅ ተከታይ አታገኝም፤አትድከም። አስተያየት ለመስጠት ከፈለግህ ርእሱን የጠበቀና ገንቢ ይሁን ስድብ ከሆነ በ ‘እንታደስ’ ስብሰባህ ብትለው ይሻላል። የያዘህን ክፉ ጋኔን ያውጣልህ።

tad said...

I don't see any relevance in talking about kine...at this critical time. Is DS tired of keeping us on the contemporary EOC issues?. Don't get me wrong. I am not saying kine...are not good for EOC.I am talking about the timinig. The devi,(with in the patriarchate and the co.) is going around looking for something to swallow. Why not we focus on Oct's meetings and sharpening our missions towards winning for our church?.Please DS take us back to the track.
May God the Almighty Bless us all.

tewahedo said...

Dear DJ participators, do u see how we are losing our time and energy with out getting to the main topic. We are talking about issues not related to the title because of some people like Tesfa who always want to divert the the discussion.

Dear Tesfa, for the sake of Christ try to contribute for positive growth of the church. If there is a need for "Tehadiso" time will bring it. If we have strong Synod, the synod will see if there is a need for tehadiso or whatever u are talking about. But if we are making any tehadiso like u, it is spliting the church which is equivalent to killing church of Christ. So please,please, please don't disturb the discussions here.
You are telling us the church is not is mistaken and is not worshiping God. So how can we people who know the church is on right track accept take your comments.

tewahedo said...

As said on the discussion, Kine is almost dying. In order to keep it alive we have to know the realities about it. I am not Kine awaki (Tekegn) but I listen geez as I learnt it years before. And I hope the title is saying about "Kine in Geez".

From the relevant point of view: I have been reading lots of kines and found them very expressive for both social and theological aspects. But who is using them now and who is going to use them in the future is the important issue.

In broader sense, kine is one aspect of life in the early lives of Ethiopians. it would have been the issue for all Ethiopians including Muslims to keep it alive and use it in daily life. But no body is concerned about it currently except few orthodox people around church. It might be because people's understanding of it. So people who understand its benefits and values have to speak about it in more wider manner by giving workshops, having secular association ,etc. One example of this type of association is "YeGeez mahibereseb" of AAU.

My view point on it about its current status in church:Even though it is expressive, it is not beneficiary on real terms now because:
-almost all people don't listen geez
-And as Kine has secrets behind, non fluent speakers of geez may not understand it.

My proposal to the developing /coninuing Kine:
In most places kidasies are being conducted in amharic and other ethiopian languages. It is good from gospel point of view. But as the zemas are still conducted in geez, it is good if there are classes that are given to teach people who want to know geez. Geez is ancient language where most ethiopian history and books are written with. So as orthodox christian knowing it is recommended. And it is easy for people who need to know more languages.

Non Christians could be reached with secular associations as said above.
Talking about Kine with out geez is irrelevant for me. So we have to focus on keeping geez, the Kine will come out when geez is alive. Otherwise we can thought of amharic kine, tigrigna kine,etc..

Adera yemilachihu said...

It is interesting on one hand and very sad on the other hand reading very petty,ridiculous and sickening comments made about MK.

It sounds like there is deliberate and sponsored move just to tarnish the image of MK. My intention is not to defend MK though.

I have no knowledge of "KINE" myself but talking about it as an issue at present time's challenge in our church is totally irrelevant.

I think and I hope I am right that the same people accusing Mk for not doing enough about KINE would have accussed MK for focusing much on KINE and GEEZE. The issue is not about KINE at all;rather their agenda behind their bad reputation for MK.

One can tell beyond reasonable doubt that there are anti-Orthodox Tewahedo faith among comment writers that are trying to use every possible "weaknesses" of members of Mk as a cover up for their intended and subtle mission.

I am sure it raises every one's eyebrows that some are wilfully trying to derail the attention of the faithful from the burning issue our church is faced with.
But I cannot say in confidence that , may be,the perpetraters of the current problems in our church themselves are also diverting people's attention towards judging MK.

Let's watch attentively and read carefully whatever is going around us.

This could be just the tip of the iceburg. Imagine what "they " might be doing behind the scenes.

May the Omnipotent and Omnipresent God reveal the truth and keep our church in unity.

Melaku said...

Brothers and Sisters in Christ,

Christians should not contend with one another, for they are brothers. This, if duly attended to, would prevent many law-suits, and end many quarrels and disputes. In matters of great damage to ourselves or families, we may use lawful means to right ourselves, but Christians should be of a forgiving temper. Refer the matters in dispute, rather than go to law about them. They are trifles, and may easily be settled, if you first conquer your own spirits. Bear and forbear, and the men of least skill among you may end your quarrels. It is a shame that little quarrels should grow to such a head among Christians, that they cannot be determined by the brethren. The peace of a man's own mind, and the calm of his neighborhood, are worth more than victory. Lawsuits could not take place among brethren, unless there were faults among them.

Melaku said...

"If any of you has a dispute with another, dare he take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, appoint as judges even men of little account in the church! I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? But instead, one brother goes to law against another—and this in front of unbelievers!
The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers."{1Corinthians 6: 1-8}

Moona said...

please, do not deviate from the topic.

Anonymous said...

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You too will like it.
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Cheru said...

Over the past three years I developed a lot of reservations, suspitions, about MK.

I used to subscribe to their publications and used to go to some Gubaes they organise although I was never a member. I stopped all of that.

That reservation and suspition about them grew stronger as I begin to see, in my opinion, their lenient approach to the wrongs that were being done to our beloved church and our country as a whole by those who were meant to look after it.

Now I look back and particularly since I started visiting Deje-selam, I started to ask myself some questions. I really wanted to find concrete reasons which led me to develop those suspitions and reservations.

I really could not find any concrete reason. In fact it was mainly because I did not like what some people were telling me about them.

The only reason to stop reading MKs publication, from which I was gaining sooo much from!!, was based on heresay.

I have to say I feel a bit naive now. I could see there is a lot of hate propaganda against MK from the real enemies of our church, who are hidding behind and sometimes using the comments of some good meaning people who have different views from MK on some matters.

So those who criticise MK with good intentions, should continue to do so in a constructive manner, pointing out specific issues. Let us watch out the foxes in sheep skin, let us please be carefull and thoughful for the sake of the church and one another.

Anonymous said...

I share what Tad and Moona said. Let us get back on the right track! for "Annoys'" please stop RED HERRING if you understand what that means. It is just ridiculous discussing people. Let me share you what great scholars say when they read this atakara.

1. Small minds discuss people.
2. Average minds discuss events.
3. Great minds discuss ideas.

Where you belong to, 1, 2 or 3? If you choose one you are in the middle of nowhere.

I strongly encourage you to write your comments based on ideas (#3).

Good luck guys.

Salem negne.

Anonymous said...

1፤ የእስራኤልም ልጆች ቍጥር እንደማይሰፈርና እንደማይቈጠር እንደ ባሕር አሸዋ ይሆናል፤ እንዲህም ይሆናል፤ እናንተ ሕዝቤ አይደላችሁም ተብሎ በተነገረበት በዚያ ስፍራ የሕያው አምላክ ልጆች ይባላሉ።

2፤ የይሁዳ ልጆችና የእስራኤል ልጆች በአንድነት ይሰበሰባሉ፥ ለእነርሱም አንድ አለቃ ይሾማሉ፥ ከምድሪቱም ይወጣሉ፤ የኢይዝራኤል ቀን ታላቅ ይሆናልና።

3፤ ወንድሞቻችሁን። ዓሚ፥ እኅቶቻችሁንም። ሩሃማ በሉአቸው።
ሆሴዕ
ምዕራፍ 2።
meneqaqefun qome aderegne beande lebe benetsomena benetseliye ayshshlem?
melkam subaea yehunelen

Anonymous said...

http://eotc-mkidusan.org/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17&Itemid=21

Mulugeta Negash said...

As the forces of Satan are getting smarter and stronger, we, the “foolish” Orthodox Christians all over the world exhaust a great deal of energy and time in petty infighting; many hierarchs, particularly in Eastern Europe, have almost no personal contact with their flocks. Many hierarchs and clergy are arrogant and condescending toward the faithful.
No one in the Islamic world is talking about abolishing or shortening Ramadan, but some in the Orthodox world are talking about abolishing some fasting periods, shortening others. Moslems maintain the appearance of their faith, while many Orthodox clergy are embarrassed or ashamed to be seen in public looking like Orthodox clergy. Moslems maintain the tradition of stopping to pray at the given times several times a day, while Orthodox Christians are seeking to reduce the already scant time we spend in the Divine Services.

One could go on with such comparisons, but the point has to do with commitment, discipline and self-control. And these qualities shouldn't be obtained by force or by the sword, like the Muslim community obviously show, but by our self-generated initiatives, because, if other humans force us to execute our faith-related duties with the fear factor (dread of devils), we'll of course be driven far away from the holy spiritual work, from the one and true God.

Faith can only be challenged by faith; commitment can only be faced with commitment. We, as Orthodox Christians cannot offer anything that will counter a committed Islamic missionary effort while we are occupied only with provincial and local problems, with petty self-interest, with "defending MY turf" against other Orthodox clergy. The divided state of the Orthodox Church today, world-wide, and the internecine power struggles undermine and weaken the Orthodox Christian witness. Self-interested fear of each other on the local level can only make the problems we face more systemic and pervasive. Moreover, they are a betrayal of the true Gospel and of the powerful faith.

All make themselves more aware of this challenge and that we sruggle, primarily with our own selves, to overcome our own pettiness and find a greater unity of spirit and purpose. Instead of having a delusion of "competition," we should be sharing the resources that each has to offer, and strengthening the commitment of our selves and the faithful. Everyone has some ability to offer, and we need to be willing to share our "self" with all for the sake of the Gospel and in order to face, with a unity of love for Christ, the challenges and temptations that are so rapidly arising before us.

The devil does not get desperate, however strong, the person whom he fights is. The devil wants to resist God's Kingdom by every means and rejoices when he is able to overthrow "if possible, even the elect." (Matt 24:24).

Our faith, our Kingdom will continuously be tempted, but we need to restore our confidence in learning that the temptation of Christ by Satan is a comfort for us in all our trials.

"Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts ofwickedness in the heavenly places." (Eph. 6:11, 12)

Anonymous said...

Dear friends it is the Will of God being MK attain this time and progress, I belive Mk is not out of EOTC because it is under the sunday schools department, so why we spent time by talking any trash.

Pleas all of us stand to do our part rather than blaming,

Please we have to practice apprication of others achivement.

May God give us "SELAM" and "ANDNTE"


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